WE WON THE GAME

[Wyovanian]

I didn't mean stop paying into the program. Stop bringing it up.

Your witty repartee is simply staggering...

 

[COS Cowboy]

I'm sick of being mediocre to sub mediocre.

+1 It's fucking embarrassing to say I root for Wyoming to my friends here in Oklahoma

If I can't brag about WYOMING to my Oklahoma friends, I get really PISSED OFF! :tickedoff:

You do know Oklahoma lost to Texas this week right? Even elite teams lose games they shouldn't.

 

[one-smooth-poke]

Doc we will win 8-9 games this season, and the mountain division title will come down to the game in Boise. It doesn't matter what the defense does if the offense scores more points, look at Fresno who has a worse d than us by far. We will be right there for the MWC crown this season, and next season we very well could be the favorite for it with everyone we bring back, the schedule, and the people the rest of the conference is losing.

Translation- "Good 'nuff! We're just Wyoming, after all!"

So basically you disagree with his coaching scheme and want him gone because his strategy isn't one you would employ?

I'd like to see a full package head coach, not one who is partial in his fulfillment of the job description.

Cool. Try harder to run him off then and maybe we can have another decade of horrid teams.

How about we simply hire a coach with the full set of skills requisite to the job?

Wyovianian,

When is the last time you made a game in person? Last time you made 2 games in person? When is the last time you coached a game? What the fuck makes you such an expert. You talk about accepting being mediocre, right? Why don't you make an attempt to elevate your knowledge and fan support to become mediocre, cause your not even close to being a mediocre fan. I think most on here would categorize you and a couple other's who bitch and moan on here to be crap fans.

Two weeks ago in San Marcos. Had a wonderful time... the next day.

Prior to that- last season's SDSU, UNLV, Nevada, and UNM games. Shall I go on?

I have season tix at both the War and the AA and there's always butts in those seats, whether I use them or not.

I'll be at the CSU game next week, and the Boise State, Fresno State, and Utah State games later this season, as well as at whatever bowl game we might go to.

I live hundreds of miles from Laramie yet I still made it to four home basketball games and four on the road, the MWC Tournament, and this year's CJC Auction.

I'm sixth generation Wyoming native, lived in Laramie until I was twenty-one, and second generation CJC.

I'm as loyal as anyone to UW, I walk what I talk, and I put my money where my mouth is. I guess I just expect too much, we are, after all, only Wyoming...

So, this year you have been to exactly 1 game...right? Why don't you go to the home games and watch in person....maybe that will help with your expertise. What area are you sitting in? I will gladly come sit close to you and yell my ass off for the Pokes and CDC...my tickets are Section C, Row 30. But we always sit in the student section.

 

[WyoAlum1987]

Glenn 03 (with Koening's talent) Played:OKState, Kansas, BYU, Utah and UNLV plus our current foes. MTState was the cupcake. Went 4-8
Glenn 04 Played TxA&M, Mississippi (beat them)BYU, Utah and UCLA (beat them), LaMonroe and AppState were the cupcakes plus our current foes went 7-5
Glenn 05 Played Florida, Mississippi (beat them), TCU, Utah and BYU plus our current foes-went 4-7
Glenn 06 Played Virginia, Syracuse, TCU, Utah, BYU. plus our current foes Utah State and Boise State were our cupcake games-went 6-6
Glenn 07 Played Virginia (beat them) TCU, Utah, BYU plus our current foes. Boise, Utah State and Ohio were our cupcake games-went 5-7
Glenn 08 Played Tennessee (beat them),TCU, Utah, TCU plus our current foes. Ohio, Bowling Green and North Dakota State were our cupcakes. Went 5-7-was fired
DC 09 (mostly Glenn's players)-Played Texas, Colorado, Utah, BYU, TCU and Fresno State,(beat them) plus our usual foes. Florida Atlantic and Weber were our cupcakes-went 7-6
DC 10 Played (and lost to) Texas, Boise, TCU, BYU and Utah plus our usual foes. Southern Utah and Toledo were our cupcakes-went 3-9
DC 11 Played (and lost to) Nebraska, TCU, Boise and Temple plus our usual foes. Weber, Texas State, Bowling Green and Utah State were supposed to be our cupcakes. USU hung 63 on DC's defense we went 8-5
DC 12 Played (and lost to) Texas, Fresno, Boise, and Nevada. Cupcakes were Toledo, San Luis Obispo (lost to them) and Idaho (beat them-finished 4-8
DC 13-cupcakes are Idaho, U of No Colo, and TxState (lost to them0. Only one challenge game-Nebraska

Upward trend? No. We are routinely degrading our expectations. The teams we scheduled as cucakes under Glenn are owning us-and we havent one signature win under DC-we had 5 under Glenn(Virginia, Miss, UCLA, Tenn)-AND our schedule no longer inclues Utah, BYU, or TCU..
I dont think punking U of NColo or Southern Utah to make the last cut to get trounced in the toilet bowl is progress. This program is clearly regressing. We need to start beating Fresno, Utah State and Boise all the time-like we used to. They USED to be our cupcake games

 

[PokeTransplant]

What is a "Complete" Head Coach going for these days in the coaching market? Do they come with a money back guarantee if not completely satisfied?

It's Boot Week and I personally will be happy with a 5-2 / 3-0 record when we win by 1 or 41...

 

[kansasCowboy]

Glenn 03 (with Koening's talent) Played:OKState, Kansas, BYU, Utah and UNLV plus our current foes. MTState was the cupcake. Went 4-8
Glenn 04 Played TxA&M, Mississippi (beat them)BYU, Utah and UCLA (beat them), LaMonroe and AppState were the cupcakes plus our current foes went 7-5
Glenn 05 Played Florida, Mississippi (beat them), TCU, Utah and BYU plus our current foes-went 4-7
Glenn 06 Played Virginia, Syracuse, TCU, Utah, BYU. plus our current foes Utah State and Boise State were our cupcake games-went 6-6
Glenn 07 Played Virginia (beat them) TCU, Utah, BYU plus our current foes. Boise, Utah State and Ohio were our cupcake games-went 5-7
Glenn 08 Played Tennessee (beat them),TCU, Utah, TCU plus our current foes. Ohio, Bowling Green and North Dakota State were our cupcakes. Went 5-7-was fired
DC 09 (mostly Glenn's players)-Played Texas, Colorado, Utah, BYU, TCU and Fresno State,(beat them) plus our usual foes. Florida Atlantic and Weber were our cupcakes-went 7-6
DC 10 Played (and lost to) Texas, Boise, TCU, BYU and Utah plus our usual foes. Southern Utah and Toledo were our cupcakes-went 3-9
DC 11 Played (and lost to) Nebraska, TCU, Boise and Temple plus our usual foes. Weber, Texas State, Bowling Green and Utah State were supposed to be our cupcakes. USU hung 63 on DC's defense we went 8-5
DC 12 Played (and lost to) Texas, Fresno, Boise, and Nevada. Cupcakes were Toledo, San Luis Obispo (lost to them) and Idaho (beat them-finished 4-8
DC 13-cupcakes are Idaho, U of No Colo, and TxState (lost to them0. Only one challenge game-Nebraska

Upward trend? No. We are routinely degrading our expectations. The teams we scheduled as cucakes under Glenn are owning us-and we havent one signature win under DC-we had 5 under Glenn(Virginia, Miss, UCLA, Tenn)-AND our schedule no longer inclues Utah, BYU, or TCU..
I dont think punking U of NColo or Southern Utah to make the last cut to get trounced in the toilet bowl is progress. This program is clearly regressing. We need to start beating Fresno, Utah State and Boise all the time-like we used to. They USED to be our cupcake games

07- Boise St was our cupcake huh?
08- BGSU was 6-6, hardly a cupcake. And they throttled us in Laramie. Put up 41 on that great Glenn D...
09-(Not mostly Glenns players) again 22 freshman either were starting or getting significant playing time in key positions. I noticed 8-5 Fresno was not a cupcake here. Must be one of DC's significant wins.
10-Toledo was 8-5...Hardly a cupcake, and we beat them on the road...Another DC sig win?
11- Bowling Green fell from 8-5 the year before to 5-7 in 11, not quite a cupcake, especially getting the win on the road. USU. went 7-6. Not quite a cupcake as well. Yes, still a bad loss.
12-Toledo went 9-4, hardly a cupcake. Cal Poly played their asses off and got the win. Yes, bad loss for us, but we were missing key role players 6 starters were out injured. 2 were main playmakers, Smith and Herron.

Your five sig wins under Glenn(Virginia 9-4) I can give you that one. Ole Miss? Are you serious? This right here tends to make me think that you have no clue what you are talking about. Our 37-32 win in Laramie Ole Miss finished 4-7. (I'm thinking this UNM team is better than that. Ole Miss that we beat the following year 24-14 finished 3-8. Significant? Not so much...

UCLA was 6-6. Wow! So significant.
Tennessee was 5-7. Significant? If you want significant wins under Glenn It was Utah 31-15 (Utah finished 8-5), TCU 24-21 (TCU finished 8-5) and then Virginia.

So Glenn had three sig wins, maybe four if you want to count UCLA, cause that was a helluva game. Still they were 6-6.

Counting the Sig wins under DC:09- Fresno St. (8-5),10- Toledo (8-5),11- San Diego St (9-4), 11-AFA (9-4)... I'm thinking DC's is looking slightly better, don't you?

And I'm honestly curious what your definition of cupcake is? considering I pointed out that several of your "cupcakes" were WAY better than you thought, and several of your significant wins were against terrible teams?

Let me know? I'm curious...

 

[BeaverPoke]

Lol I like how someone shows how ole miss UCLA and Tennessee weren't good teams when we played them, but then they still get categorized as signature wins.
Now THAT is celebrating mediocrity. Yay we beat the worst teams in the best conference!

 

[WyoAlum1987]

can we agree that they were better than Texas State?

 

[COS Cowboy]

Glenn 03 (with Koening's talent) Played:OKState, Kansas, BYU, Utah and UNLV plus our current foes. MTState was the cupcake. Went 4-8

We beat BYU in 03, don't forget.

Upward trend? No. We are routinely degrading our expectations. The teams we scheduled as cucakes under Glenn are owning us-and we havent one signature win under DC-we had 5 under Glenn(Virginia, Miss, UCLA, Tenn)-AND our schedule no longer inclues Utah, BYU, or TCU..
I dont think punking U of NColo or Southern Utah to make the last cut to get trounced in the toilet bowl is progress. This program is clearly regressing. We need to start beating Fresno, Utah State and Boise all the time-like we used to. They USED to be our cupcake games

So you would rather win the one game that we shouldn't each year like we did under Glenn than go to bowl games every other year? You complain about losing to Texas St., but how about Bowling Green? Lost 45-16 at home, remember that one? You were good with losing 44-0 to BYU? 50-0 or 40-7 to Utah? How about 54-7 to TCU? Those were all OK because we could pull off that one "signature win" per year?

I think we are clearly progressing. We have an offense that can both run and pass. Our D can get stops, they just don't do it consistently. Most importantly, in years past, we could just about count out winning the conference by October, but this year I'm not counting anything out. Fresno, Boise and USU are all beatable. Sure we don't have TCU, BYU or Utah on the schedule anymore, but there's nothing we can do about that. Frankly I wouldn't count us out against any of them either.

 

[YankPoke]

Whoa there Yank,
Doesn't the old alma mater teach rhetoric, or require competence in communication anymore? Now, you make some good points, but they are completely buried in the vitriol and coarseness of your post.
I would agree with you that Wyoming IS much better when they have the ball than they have been in a long, long time. We are not yet bowl eligible, and the teams we have beaten to date won't provide much of a resume.
Our record shows that we are currently better than Northern (worst team in FBS), Idaho (worst team in DivI-A), USAFA (worst team in the conference), and New Mexico-The combined WL of these opponents is 5-25 for the season. They all lost last week, as did Texas State-(the worst team in the Sun Belt conference)-who, as you may recall, smoked us .
New Mexico is not the worst of anything..(but you can see if from there)...it has two wins-one against a winless school (NMSU)-the other against a school that has lost every game except to NMSU (UTEP).
As you note, we've beaten CSU for the past 4 years-and their record has been 13-35 over that period. They have won two games this season and looked horrible last week.That should help us stay on top of the confernce standings another week, and continue to justify the poor behavior of those who are driving the bandwagon over some of the rest of us...
I am a diehard Poke fan, but I aint a DC fan yet-and unless we beat Boise this year, I can't see myself changing my opinion.
DCs best season and only bowl win came the year after Glenn left with Glenn's players. Since then he has lost to Temple, San Luis Obispo, and Texas .
IF we go to a bowl game-I would say that this season is shaping up like 2011-where we scheduled (and beat) Weber, Bowling Green and Texas State in their first year of D-I-won out against the fading teams in the conference, and went to a bowl game and got exposed and embarrassed by.....the Temple Owls.
That said, I think that CSU, Hawaii, Utah and SJSU look winnable. We could finish with 8 wins barring injury. But even with 8 wins, I would make a point that I not convinced that this team is making the next step. If all those 8 programs are among the worst in the NCAA, and we get smoked by the cellar dwellars in other conferences it doesnt say all that much. We are still mediocre..and even though we schedule enough creampuffs to have a winning season-its kinda like puffing your chest out for getting the prettiest whore to take your money....you aint really all that great

You make some fair points, and I let some emotions surface on here last night, so I apologize for the language last night. I am just a little frustrated with some of the fans on this board, and Wyoming fans in general and the lack of seeing progress when it is right there in front of our faces. Sure he hasn't gotten his signature win yet, but he will maybe even this year against Fresno or Boise. If you look at where this program is at compared to in the past it is much better, sure he has made his mistakes, but he is learning on the job he had never been a head coach before coming here. We haven't lost to our main rival since he has been here, how many programs can say that? We have better off the field stuff then most programs ever will, and we have the best academics in our history for a football team. We have already had two winning seasons, and look to be on the way to a third. We have much better athletes than when he came here as well as a potential first or second round QB if he stays for next year. We have a great chance at competing for a MWC title this season in a down Mountain West, and very well could be the favorites next year. It takes a lot of time to build a program especially one in Laramie Wyoming where it is very hard to recruit and we honestly don't have that great of a winning tradition. Outside of Wyoming most people look down on this program, so that makes it hard to recruit as well. We will win around 8-9 games this season, be right there for a conference title, and bring everyone on this team back next year for an even more favorable conference slate. I see progress in this program and firing a coach every year,when we actually have a pretty good one, is a way to get ourselves to be like CU where they can't beat anybody and keep getting new coach every two years and never let them progress toward building a program. DC is taking us in the right direction, it may not be as fast as some would like, but I sure as hell don't want to start over and will enjoy winning two thirds of our games.

 

[kansasCowboy]

can we agree that they were better than Texas State?

For crying out loud!!! You are stuck on one freaking game in DCs career. Did I prove my point or not? And if not why?

 

[Wyovanian]

can we agree that they were better than Texas State?

For crying out loud!!! You are stuck on one freaking game in DCs career. Did I prove my point or not? And if not why?

Texas State, Cal-Poly-SLO, Toledo, Utah State, UNLV, Temple, and zero wins against ranked teams. Zero.

 

[WyoAlum1987]

So, I guess that Wyovanian answered your question.
You did not prove your point.
But I dont much care, I'm tired of wasting wind this way.

Lets just agree to disagree and start talking about how lucky we are that we didnt end up in Fort Collins
(full disclosure-my father played football for them after the war-but he got me the hell out of Colorado as quick as he could)

 

[WyoAlum1987]

Lets just lay off ol' DC for now, and stop hating on one another. Some of us dont like him, some do. That is all fine and dandy.
We need to just agree to disagree and get back to supporting UW and despising CSU.

These are our boys, DC is our coach, we hate CSU. We can all agree on that. Surely.

We want to win, we want to get to a bowl game.

We should be able to celebrate that together without bitching and bellyaching about each other. We disagree about some things-but we agree on the most important.

 

[WyoBrandX]

I'm pretty happy with where we are at today. Wins are wins. Our offense is putting up some nice numbers this year. I like the switch to 3-4 defense. We seem to get a heck of alot more stops in the backfield than we did with last years 'multiple', or the 4-3 the years before.

They are not going to fix the defense this season, but at least it feels more like a bend-not-break defensive effort vs the last few years of 'the defense is just going through the motions and giving up 10 yards / play.'

This offseason, they need to go find some additional depth on the d-line from junior colleges to take care of the immediate problems. Redshirt some freshman from HS.

If we can keep putting up the stats on offense that we are, and we can build a defense that can put up quite a few 3 and outs, this team will be unstoppable.

I think Dave Christensen might break the top 5 in points scored in a season (Wyoming History) at the end of this year:
http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/mountainwest/wyoming/most_points_season.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

 

[COS Cowboy]

I'm pretty happy with where we are at today. Wins are wins. Our offense is putting up some nice numbers this year. I like the switch to 3-4 defense. We seem to get a heck of alot more stops in the backfield than we did with last years 'multiple', or the 4-3 the years before.

They are not going to fix the defense this season, but at least it feels more like a bend-not-break defensive effort vs the last few years of 'the defense is just going through the motions and giving up 10 yards / play.'

This offseason, they need to go find some additional depth on the d-line from junior colleges to take care of the immediate problems. Redshirt some freshman from HS.

If we can keep putting up the stats on offense that we are, and we can build a defense that can put up quite a few 3 and outs, this team will be unstoppable.

I think Dave Christensen might break the top 5 in points scored in a season (Wyoming History) at the end of this year:
http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/mountainwest/wyoming/most_points_season.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I agree, especially since defense seems to be an afterthought in the MWC this year.