Vigen is the best OC

[laxwyo]

We’ve had in in 20 years. Like it or not, what they’re doing is winning games giving us our best 4 year stretch in a long time. It’s not pretty and can be downright frustrating at times but it’s working. Does it feel like we should be doing better? Yes. Watching bills fans cry about Daboll made me realize that we’re one in the same. Two fan bases that suddenly feel entitled and somehow upset at the OC while being 6-2.

 

[LanderPoke]

stop it

 

[ragtimejoe1]

The next few weeks will tell a lot about Vigen. If he can adjust, put points on board, and maintain his side for wins against teams with a pulse, it'll be a dang good accomplishment.

His offense is better with dual threat QBs. If the reciever/QB were doing a better job, the offense would be quite a bit better. With that said, Vigen is in charge of QB development and the offense as a whole, so the recruiting/coaching development of those positions is on him. He's been one of the best we've had at RBs and line development.

 

[laxwyo]

The next few weeks will tell a lot about Vigen. If he can adjust, put points on board, and maintain his side for wins against teams with a pulse, it'll be a dang good accomplishment.

His offense is better with dual threat QBs. If the reciever/QB were doing a better job, the offense would be quite a bit better. With that said, Vigen is in charge of QB development and the offense as a whole, so the recruiting/coaching development of those positions is on him. He's been one of the best we've had at RBs and line development.

I don’t disagree with you. I’m just wondering if we’re doing about as good as we can be with the talent we have. Is there any argument that we’re doing better than the talent we have. I guess what I’m saying is, are we squeezing all the potential from the recruits we are able to get? It’s not like we’re getting 4 star recruits and underperforming. I’d say that they’ve done a hell of a job with the team. We have O line that appears to have depth, D line where redshirt freshmen come in and perform.

It seems crazy to hate on Vigen when we’ve won 10 of the last 12 games. About as crazy as NDSU fans hating him while winning NCs

 

[WyoBrandX]

Its not a flashy offense. Sometimes, its annoying as hell to watch. It is getting the job done though.

Alot to be said about putting a team together that does the hard/uncomfortable work year in and year out. Great work ethic on this team!

 

[OrediggerPoke]

I’ve been saying all year, the offense finds a way to win with the pieces we have.

Also - it is clear that the offense isn’t simply a few generic plays that get called. But, rather, the play calling appears to be designed to utilize the given strengths of the QB. The offensive play calling last game looked very different between Chambers and TVW under center.

It isn’t flashy - but the Pokes don’t commit a l out of turnovers and there can be a lot said for that.

 

[ragtimejoe1]

The next few weeks will tell a lot about Vigen. If he can adjust, put points on board, and maintain his side for wins against teams with a pulse, it'll be a dang good accomplishment.

His offense is better with dual threat QBs. If the reciever/QB were doing a better job, the offense would be quite a bit better. With that said, Vigen is in charge of QB development and the offense as a whole, so the recruiting/coaching development of those positions is on him. He's been one of the best we've had at RBs and line development.

I don’t disagree with you. I’m just wondering if we’re doing about as good as we can be with the talent we have. Is there any argument that we’re doing better than the talent we have. I guess what I’m saying is, are we squeezing all the potential from the recruits we are able to get? It’s not like we’re getting 4 star recruits and underperforming. I’d say that they’ve done a hell of a job with the team. We have O line that appears to have depth, D line where redshirt freshmen come in and perform.

It seems crazy to hate on Vigen when we’ve won 10 of the last 12 games. About as crazy as NDSU fans hating him while winning NCs

For in season, I agree. He probably is getting what he can out of the O. I'm curious to see what adjustments he makes without Chambers. A hallmark of a good OC is adapting to what you have and what the D will give you.

Out of season, I've been really impressed with line and running back recruiting/development. The passing game has mostly been a mess. I'm 100% sure it isn't where he wants it. Personally, I think the passing side of things is his weakness but I believe Bohl will get him the support he needs.

 

[WyoBrandX]

He did have a pretty good hayday with Christensen's receivers once he got a good QB in.

 

[LanderPoke]

The next few weeks will tell a lot about Vigen. If he can adjust, put points on board, and maintain his side for wins against teams with a pulse, it'll be a dang good accomplishment.

His offense is better with dual threat QBs. If the reciever/QB were doing a better job, the offense would be quite a bit better. With that said, Vigen is in charge of QB development and the offense as a whole, so the recruiting/coaching development of those positions is on him. He's been one of the best we've had at RBs and line development.

I don’t disagree with you. I’m just wondering if we’re doing about as good as we can be with the talent we have. Is there any argument that we’re doing better than the talent we have. I guess what I’m saying is, are we squeezing all the potential from the recruits we are able to get? It’s not like we’re getting 4 star recruits and underperforming. I’d say that they’ve done a hell of a job with the team. We have O line that appears to have depth, D line where redshirt freshmen come in and perform.

It seems crazy to hate on Vigen when we’ve won 10 of the last 12 games. About as crazy as NDSU fans hating him while winning NCs

For in season, I agree. He probably is getting what he can out of the O. I'm curious to see what adjustments he makes without Chambers. A hallmark of a good OC is adapting to what you have and what the D will give you.

Out of season, I've been really impressed with line and running back recruiting/development. The passing game has mostly been a mess. I'm 100% sure it isn't where he wants it. Personally, I think the passing side of things is his weakness but I believe Bohl will get him the support he needs.

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Vigen doesn't change his style for anyone

 

[ragtimejoe1]

To be fair, I wouldn't expect Bohl to telegraph any changes in offensive scheme. His answer is the answer i would have given in that scenario. Imo, we'll have to wait until sat to see.

 

[OrediggerPoke]

The next few weeks will tell a lot about Vigen. If he can adjust, put points on board, and maintain his side for wins against teams with a pulse, it'll be a dang good accomplishment.

His offense is better with dual threat QBs. If the reciever/QB were doing a better job, the offense would be quite a bit better. With that said, Vigen is in charge of QB development and the offense as a whole, so the recruiting/coaching development of those positions is on him. He's been one of the best we've had at RBs and line development.

I don’t disagree with you. I’m just wondering if we’re doing about as good as we can be with the talent we have. Is there any argument that we’re doing better than the talent we have. I guess what I’m saying is, are we squeezing all the potential from the recruits we are able to get? It’s not like we’re getting 4 star recruits and underperforming. I’d say that they’ve done a hell of a job with the team. We have O line that appears to have depth, D line where redshirt freshmen come in and perform.

It seems crazy to hate on Vigen when we’ve won 10 of the last 12 games. About as crazy as NDSU fans hating him while winning NCs

For in season, I agree. He probably is getting what he can out of the O. I'm curious to see what adjustments he makes without Chambers. A hallmark of a good OC is adapting to what you have and what the D will give you.

Out of season, I've been really impressed with line and running back recruiting/development. The passing game has mostly been a mess. I'm 100% sure it isn't where he wants it. Personally, I think the passing side of things is his weakness but I believe Bohl will get him the support he needs.

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Vigen doesn't change his style for anyone

Yes he does and we saw it last game. While the plays in the playbook may stay the same, the plays being called will be different.

You will not see any RPOs called with TVW under center. Nor will we see the extent of read option plays. We will see a few designed QB sneaks but way less than with Chambers.

 

[LanderPoke]

The next few weeks will tell a lot about Vigen. If he can adjust, put points on board, and maintain his side for wins against teams with a pulse, it'll be a dang good accomplishment.

His offense is better with dual threat QBs. If the reciever/QB were doing a better job, the offense would be quite a bit better. With that said, Vigen is in charge of QB development and the offense as a whole, so the recruiting/coaching development of those positions is on him. He's been one of the best we've had at RBs and line development.

I don’t disagree with you. I’m just wondering if we’re doing about as good as we can be with the talent we have. Is there any argument that we’re doing better than the talent we have. I guess what I’m saying is, are we squeezing all the potential from the recruits we are able to get? It’s not like we’re getting 4 star recruits and underperforming. I’d say that they’ve done a hell of a job with the team. We have O line that appears to have depth, D line where redshirt freshmen come in and perform.

It seems crazy to hate on Vigen when we’ve won 10 of the last 12 games. About as crazy as NDSU fans hating him while winning NCs

For in season, I agree. He probably is getting what he can out of the O. I'm curious to see what adjustments he makes without Chambers. A hallmark of a good OC is adapting to what you have and what the D will give you.

Out of season, I've been really impressed with line and running back recruiting/development. The passing game has mostly been a mess. I'm 100% sure it isn't where he wants it. Personally, I think the passing side of things is his weakness but I believe Bohl will get him the support he needs.

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Vigen doesn't change his style for anyone

Yes he does and we saw it last game. While the plays in the playbook may stay the same, the plays being called will be different.

You will not see any RPOs called with TVW under center. Nor will we see the extent of read option plays. We will see a few designed QB sneaks but way less than with Chambers.

I bet TWV carries it ~10 times vs Boise State. Just like Sean

 

[OrediggerPoke]

I bet TWV carries it ~10 times vs Boise State. Just like Sean

Really? You are going to compare Chambers carries the last game or two to TVW versus Boise State and say yep same gameplan?

2 things limited Chambers’ carries: (1) the injury; and (2) more importantly game flow. The UNR and UNM games were never in doubt so there was little reason to expose Chambers to 15+ carries.

I think we will see TVW with 7-10 carries against Boise State but they will be very different play calls than what would be called for Chambers. Some of those TVW carries will simply be drop back passes that turn into runs. With a healthy Chambers against Boise, he gets about 15 carries with some RPOs and read-options sprinkled in.

 

[LanderPoke]

I bet TWV carries it ~10 times vs Boise State. Just like Sean

Really? You are going to compare Chambers carries the last game or two to TVW versus Boise State and say yep same gameplan?

Sean rushes 11.25 times per game this year. TWV will be right around that I bet

 

[fromolwyoming]

TVW, while he can run, just doesn't have the same speed and agility Chambers does. Can't speak to power, as he hasn't had a chance to show it as much, but yeah. I wouldn't look at too many QB designed runs going forward.