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USU Line Opens at +12
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gopokes1399
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Take it! We will walk away w a W
Asmodeanreborn
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If we can somehow stop their running, we should be fine. Problem is that Turbin's not exactly your average runner. Hopefully they'll use him sparingly, just like vs BYU.
If you take a look at USU, running game, check. Athletic but young QB, check. Agressive D, check.
BUT
This team obviously has issues finishing for whatever reason. Let's also keep in mind their last two games:
1)CSEWE-With every passing week I am more disgusted and unimpressed with this team, and USU gave up 35 at home to these losers. If they can score 35, I have no doubts that we can, at least, do the same.
2)YBU-Where do I even start. Horrible on both sides of the ball. The zoobs were able to move the ball once they yanked Heaps and put in the more athletic Nelson. They had open guys all night long and couldn't hit them. Nelson found creases and was able to run on them. I like our athletic QB matchup against this D along with our WR's and RB's. I have faith in our OL to protect Smith and for Smith, when needing to, to buy enough time to get it to an open receiver. YBU had some success throwing with back out so I would imagine that we would try and do the same with our 3 headed monster.
D is getting better. Tshawn is stepping up back there and that is good to see. Browder is back and he is athletic. Pressure on Keeton is key because I don't believe him to be a guy that can sit back there and throw it 40 times a game down field like the BG kid or Weber State. Turbin is a beast and he will get his yards but beasts ultimately get tired and I would hope that 8 or 9 against 1 eventually will win out. The key at that point is to not let Chuckie beat us, and a guy named Chuckie should never ever be able to beat anyone. Our boys have had 2 weeks to prepare for these guys so I like our chances. Go Pokes!
BUT
This team obviously has issues finishing for whatever reason. Let's also keep in mind their last two games:
1)CSEWE-With every passing week I am more disgusted and unimpressed with this team, and USU gave up 35 at home to these losers. If they can score 35, I have no doubts that we can, at least, do the same.
2)YBU-Where do I even start. Horrible on both sides of the ball. The zoobs were able to move the ball once they yanked Heaps and put in the more athletic Nelson. They had open guys all night long and couldn't hit them. Nelson found creases and was able to run on them. I like our athletic QB matchup against this D along with our WR's and RB's. I have faith in our OL to protect Smith and for Smith, when needing to, to buy enough time to get it to an open receiver. YBU had some success throwing with back out so I would imagine that we would try and do the same with our 3 headed monster.
D is getting better. Tshawn is stepping up back there and that is good to see. Browder is back and he is athletic. Pressure on Keeton is key because I don't believe him to be a guy that can sit back there and throw it 40 times a game down field like the BG kid or Weber State. Turbin is a beast and he will get his yards but beasts ultimately get tired and I would hope that 8 or 9 against 1 eventually will win out. The key at that point is to not let Chuckie beat us, and a guy named Chuckie should never ever be able to beat anyone. Our boys have had 2 weeks to prepare for these guys so I like our chances. Go Pokes!
djm19
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I can see USU winning, but not by 12+. Their RBs (especially Turbin) are studs, however, Turbin is not better than Burkhead from Neb, and the USU O-line doesnt have near the depth as Neb.
If USU was smart, they would line up and run it all night. If Wyo was smart, they would pass all night. USU secondary is weak.
I could see this game going 1 of 2 ways. Either a shootout, no defense at all game ending with both teams in 40s, or each team plays sloppy and ends in a turnover fest with the score being in 20s.
Keep in mind, the only barometer we have to compare the teams right now is Weber State. If we played Weber State today, we beat them by 2 TDs. They were tied with USU at halftime.
USU and UW are very similar programs. Young, inexperienced, lack of consistency.
I think UW can win, but USU is the best 1-3 team in the nation.
If USU was smart, they would line up and run it all night. If Wyo was smart, they would pass all night. USU secondary is weak.
I could see this game going 1 of 2 ways. Either a shootout, no defense at all game ending with both teams in 40s, or each team plays sloppy and ends in a turnover fest with the score being in 20s.
Keep in mind, the only barometer we have to compare the teams right now is Weber State. If we played Weber State today, we beat them by 2 TDs. They were tied with USU at halftime.
USU and UW are very similar programs. Young, inexperienced, lack of consistency.
I think UW can win, but USU is the best 1-3 team in the nation.
BackHarlowRoad
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Wyoirish said:
That is an inflated score. 2 of those scores came in OT. CSEWE had 13 points on the board with 4 minutes left in the 4th quarter and USU had the ball. They did not have a very good offensive game.
Wyoirish said:
I hope we have a 300 lb nose tack or offenslive lineman converted to nose tackle that we decided to rip the redshit off over the bye week that would aid in blowing a big damned hole through offensive line on every play and make the quarterback make some mistakes. With our existing DE's the situation would be good.
I don't think our coverages in the secondary has been terrible, (it's terrible but it could we worse), but making the quarterback throw bad balls would help mask the problem. Hell bad passes means
The opening line of +12 is indeed inflated. The goofball sports book director at Wynn has been setting an early line at 3pm on Sunday with a high minimum to get high-end action to his operation. The result has been mixed for them, as they have been burned quite a few times in over-value on some 'dogs (people are betting the favorites on their early line which is bad for the books), and secondary to that, more "legitimate" (for lack of a better word) lines in LV have been skewed by this early number. Keep in mind that sport books' objective with the spread is to balance the betting on either side (their advantage lies in the 10% vig on each bet). Pure handicapping would give the Aggies an automatic 3 point advantage at home, then, looking through the matchup lense, would probably give Wyoming an edge for a more balanced offense (+2-3) but USU gets the edge on special teams (or, more accurately Wyoming gets punished for their place-kicking game) which is good for +1-3. I'd put this game at around USU -3 and if I was a sports book, -3.5. Money line would be around +180.
bladerunnr
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Wyovanian said:
I think homefield is worth more like 7 points, not 3. So based on Utah state's close losses to good teams and our wins against nobodies, I'd say 11 or 12 is about right. I hate to say it, I think it's about 50-50 if we get blown out. I think we can win outright, but it will be close if we do. Nebraska getting pounded didn't help our strength of schedule any. This team needs a win against a legitimate team.
This would qualify. If csewe can beat this team, then we should be able to as well, especially coming off a bye week. If not, it could be another long, long, long long, season.
Wyoirish said:
I am a big Cowboy fan since I work out of Wyoming except when they're playing my Aggies. While I agree that we are 1-3 and that's all that matters your analysis is a bit off.
Against CSU the Aggies had five fumbles lost including Two muffed punts deep in their territory, and a fumble returned for a touchdown where the running back was clearly down but wasn't overturned. CSU's offense got inside the 30 only three times during regulation. One drive and the 2 muffed punts. USU held CSU to 10 points on these possessions with the last touchdown coming on a 14 yard drive. We nearly outgained CSU 2 to 1. Agreed CSU is a crappy team, agreed the Aggies blew it, and agreed that they collapsed. However, CSU did not move the ball until overtime and that after having a 2 to 1 time of possession due to turnovers.
Against YBU, Who the hell knows what happened. Our run D was itself after the first drives and Heaps couldn't hit the broad side of a barn. Our offense stalled a couple of times late and Nelson made plays. They won on hail mary followed by a pass USU batted to the reciever.
The Aggies have won the game in the trenches all four games easily. They are hardnosed and talented on both sides of the ball.
In the end I agree though, Why should a 3-1 team be a dog to a team that can't finish and finds a way to lose in the most outlandish ways. I think you'll find the Aggies are a good team with character that won't back down. However, the Cowboys could just as easily win by 35. If USU breaks out the way they should they could pull it off too.
Good luck the rest of the season Pokes.
