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Traditions

wellpoke

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This has been bothering me all morning, and I had to say something, sorry for the longish post.

Over on the other board, there's some discussion about the traditions that we have (or really about the ones we don't) at UW, and those that DC is trying to build - like the Cowboy Walk. The question was asked, how do you build a tradition? One of the posters over there said that it has to start with the PA announcer for things like the WYO chant and getting students to stick around for the team to sing Cowboy Joe after the game.

Here's my rub, traditions aren't built because the athletic department says they should be. In fact, that will probably kill anything faster than you can blink. Traditions are built from fans. From students who get to UW and can't find a reason to not go to a game. From students who when they get to the game are cheering their heads off and participating in the game. They're built from those students who graduate and want to come back to Laramie and participate in those same traditions, and bring their kids with them eventually who will want to get involved as a kid. Traditions are built from those kids who will then attend UW, because they can't imagine going anywhere else and already know what those traditions are, and WANT to participate because they can't imagine doing anything else on a Saturday morning. Traditions are built because that cycle perpetuates itself until we have fan-built traditions that we couldn't imagine ever going away.

I compare most of this stuff to Texas A&M, because I have family that work there and have attended there. They're pretty widely known for their traditions, and they've been around for a lot of years. Trust me, they didn't start all those years ago because some announcer got on the horn and said so. Those traditions started because students started them, got their kids involved, and then sent their kids to A&M knowing the ropes. I'd like to see someone try to change one of those traditions at A&M now.

I realize we're not A&M, and that winning will go a long way towards getting fans involved and igniting some of the new things DC is trying, like the Cowboy Walk. But if we really want these things to become traditions, we've got to start at the grassroots level, and build on that, each and every year. We can't rely on the athletic department to do it.

GO POKES!
 
One of the things I think has hurt some traditions is all the advertising that goes on during clock stoppage. The fans have a hard time starting the WYO chear when they are showing some video of lets talk to a player, etc.

IMO constant advertising has killed many Wyoming traditions
 
nirv117 said:
One of the things I think has hurt some traditions is all the advertising that goes on during clock stoppage. The fans have a hard time starting the WYO chear when they are showing some video of lets talk to a player, etc.

IMO constant advertising has killed many Wyoming traditions

I couldn't agree more. From the perspective of the band, and cheerleaders...they should be upset to say the least. They are both (band & cheer teams) treated like crap on gameday, for the sake of State Farm, Village Inn, Allstate, Verizon, etc., etc., etc.

LET THE BAND PLAY !!!!!!

LET THE CHEERLEADERS CHEER !!!!!!

I realize the importance of $$...and Learfield's role in UW making $$...and UW's Marketing Department making $$...BUT...it should be about the FANS! The FANS are what make all the $$ dreams happen. Seems UW athletics is quite the bunch of hookers... :evil:
 
wellpoke said:
But if we really want these things to become traditions, we've got to start at the grassroots level, and build on that, each and every year. We can't rely on the athletic department to do it.

GO POKES!

I like your entire post...but this line says it all (if you think about it). We can't rely on the athletic department...you are correct...but as fans, the athletic department has handicapped us to the point that our options to do what we would want are unavailable.

Again, I can't imagine the UW Marching Band or Cheerleader team being proud of their given position, and when they can or can't play...or cheer. It is all about the marketing department (UW, Learfield, etc.), and the money they can "bring in"...NOT the fan experience. It probably happens at every stadium these days...but with our small, passionate, fan base...it ISN'T WORKING!
 
I agree completely Peachy. I'm also a former member of Western Thunder, and I can tell you first hand that the band isn't happy with the current situation. Timeouts are actually scripted, except for when the coach calls one, and even then there's a plan in place.

But here's my point, and again I'll reference A&M. They've got about five cheers that the yell leaders coordinate with hand signals. Once they start one of those, they are so loud that even if the PA guy was on you wouldn't be able to hear him. There's still plenty of places for marketing and revenue generating, but the tradition hasn't stopped. Again, I realize we're not A&M, but my point is this:

If we want things to happen (like the WYO chant back and forth) we need to JUST DO IT! When it catches on, it'll be loud enough that the Dept will have no choice. They'll find other ways to create revenue and get sponsors names around the War, trust me.

GO POKES!
 
Montana's the same way.. there's not a phase of the game that's not whored out to the highest bidder. We have the Dodge red zone, the Dr. Pepper extra point, advertisements all over both walls of the end zone, every TV break, every time out, every injury there's another advertisement.. christ on crutches, enough!! The people I sit near we all joke about the advertising.. so we'll throw out our own advertisements.. "first down brought to you by ______." The band and cheer squad are mostly non-existent unless the game is close. Hell, even our mascot is whored out to every business in town so he can be in their TV commercial. But I noticed at the UW game I was at, the announcer completely quit saying first down after the student section started up their first down cheer. The fans definitely have to take over the game though.
 
wellpoke said:
If we want things to happen (like the WYO chant back and forth) we need to JUST DO IT! When it catches on, it'll be loud enough that the Dept will have no choice. They'll find other ways to create revenue and get sponsors names around the War, trust me.

Right you are...and I bet the band and cheer team would be more than willing to help (they both obviously are hog-tied when it comes to doing things the marketing group at UW doesn't sign off on...on their own)!
 

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