Tournament lineup?

[McPeachy]

Shyatt needs to borrow a couple guys from Bohl. There is no reason to waste a red-shirt when this team has no chance of winning the tournament.

Burning a redshirt on a walk-on who may never see the court anyway, I don't think is a huge deal. Particularly if 3 of the 7 scholarship athletes left foul out. That would leave us with 4 on the court...although the chances of that are slim, very slim.

This thread has become quite confusing...walk-on redshirts, versus scholarship redshirts, versus whateverinthefuck Monkeyboy is talking about with McManeman.

 

[DVDA]

Shyatt needs to borrow a couple guys from Bohl. There is no reason to waste a red-shirt when this team has no chance of winning the tournament.

Burning a redshirt on a walk-on who may never see the court anyway, I don't think is a huge deal. Particularly if 3 of the 7 scholarship athletes left foul out. That would leave us with 4 on the court...although the chances of that are slim, very slim.

This thread has become quite confusing...walk-on redshirts, versus scholarship redshirts, versus whateverinthefuck Monkeyboy is talking about with McManeman.

Grab 6 guys from the football team and you still get to SDSU at best without wasting the red-shirt. This team has no chance at winning the MWC tournament. What's the point in wasting the kid's red-shirt over one or two games?

 

[JimmyDimes]

Shyatt needs to borrow a couple guys from Bohl. There is no reason to waste a red-shirt when this team has no chance of winning the tournament.

Burning a redshirt on a walk-on who may never see the court anyway, I don't think is a huge deal. Particularly if 3 of the 7 scholarship athletes left foul out. That would leave us with 4 on the court...although the chances of that are slim, very slim.

This thread has become quite confusing...walk-on redshirts, versus scholarship redshirts, versus whateverinthefuck Monkeyboy is talking about with McManeman.

Grab 6 guys from the football team and you still get to SDSU at best without wasting the red-shirt. This team has no chance at winning the MWC tournament. What's the point in wasting the kid's red-shirt over one or two games?

Who said anything about needing help or wasting red-shirts (unless the redshirt who said he would do anything to help the team plays)? We have a decent 7 man rotation with the guys we have. And I'd give a us a slim chance...which is slightly better than no chance.

 

[Bryoming]

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[calpoke25]

There's no harm in burning a walk ons redshirt if we need a warm body. That's what walk ons are for. I didn't even know a walk on got a redshirt year. But the fact were even having this conversation is abysmal for our program.

 

[seattlecowboy]

Averbuck shot 49% from 3 in high school. So at worst he will be another shooter that might be able to knock a few down since we shoot so many 3's anyways. D1 ball is a lot different than high school but if he is out there and open he might as well let it fly.

 

[McPeachy]

Shyatt needs to borrow a couple guys from Bohl. There is no reason to waste a red-shirt when this team has no chance of winning the tournament.

Burning a redshirt on a walk-on who may never see the court anyway, I don't think is a huge deal. Particularly if 3 of the 7 scholarship athletes left foul out. That would leave us with 4 on the court...although the chances of that are slim, very slim.

This thread has become quite confusing...walk-on redshirts, versus scholarship redshirts, versus whateverinthefuck Monkeyboy is talking about with McManeman.

Grab 6 guys from the football team and you still get to SDSU at best without wasting the red-shirt. This team has no chance at winning the MWC tournament. What's the point in wasting the kid's red-shirt over one or two games?

Why reward a football player (or six as you say) with a trip to Vegas, when you can give a freshman walk-on or two (again who will probably NEVER see the court - ever again - EVER) the thrill to play in the MW tourney and with Josh?

Essentially...it comes down to this: There is no such thing as wasting a redshirt when referring to a walk on player (in regards to hoops).

 

[Cosmic Cowboy]

Why reward a football player (or six as you say) with a trip to Vegas, when you can give a freshman walk-on or two (again who will probably NEVER see the court - ever again - EVER) the thrill to play in the MW tourney and with Josh?

Essentially...it comes down to this: There is no such thing as wasting a redshirt when referring to a walk on player (in regards to hoops).

I'm with McPeachy. There is ZERO harm in letting these guys play and it's actually a reward for sticking it out. I'd say we might need them too. It could cost us but what if they can give us enough of a presence to break Adams, Liebs, and McMan even for a few minutes. That will add up over the course of a tourney....don't see us lasting long in this tourney but still. What if these dudes can actually start tanking some 3's for us too? That would be nice.

 

[cali2wyo]

Essentially...it comes down to this: There is no such thing as wasting a redshirt when referring to a walk on player (in regards to hoops).

Bingo! The 2 walk-ons have been an emergency plan from day 1, it's why they dress every game and warm up with the team. The majority of walk-ons don't even stay on the roster for 4 years (another impressive thing about Bentz), so if they're needed at any point this week, I have no problem with them coming in.

 

[OrediggerPoke]

No question you 'burn' the redshirts of the walk-ons. This is likely one of their best opportunities they will ever have to play in a meaningful game at Wyoming. These walkons have put in the time and deserve the opportunity to play if needed. The only reason not to burn a redshirt would be if the walk-on has indicated a desire to transfer somewhere else to obtain a scholarship (such as a lower level).

 

[SDPokeFan]

Might as well let them play. And for those of you going to the tournament, it's likely you'll have plenty of free time after Wednesday!

 

[davidwyo]

DVDA is being a negative nancy, a walk on I would use if necessary to give the guys a breather. I like our odds and I like the way the board is responding to our Cowboys.

 

[DVDA]

DVDA is being a negative nancy, a walk on I would use if necessary to give the guys a breather. I like our odds and I like the way the board is responding to our Cowboys.

You just went from being the most annoying douche on the board to my favorite little kid. Here's some teletubbies to keep you entertained while the grown ups talk.

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[DVDA]

Shyatt needs to borrow a couple guys from Bohl. There is no reason to waste a red-shirt when this team has no chance of winning the tournament.

Burning a redshirt on a walk-on who may never see the court anyway, I don't think is a huge deal. Particularly if 3 of the 7 scholarship athletes left foul out. That would leave us with 4 on the court...although the chances of that are slim, very slim.

This thread has become quite confusing...walk-on redshirts, versus scholarship redshirts, versus whateverinthefuck Monkeyboy is talking about with McManeman.

Grab 6 guys from the football team and you still get to SDSU at best without wasting the red-shirt. This team has no chance at winning the MWC tournament. What's the point in wasting the kid's red-shirt over one or two games?

Why reward a football player (or six as you say) with a trip to Vegas, when you can give a freshman walk-on or two (again who will probably NEVER see the court - ever again - EVER) the thrill to play in the MW tourney and with Josh?

Essentially...it comes down to this: There is no such thing as wasting a redshirt when referring to a walk on player (in regards to hoops).

That Jack Bentz never saw the court now did he. He was terrible and got plenty of minutes. The current walk-ons have a lot more talent than Bentz. I'm sure they'll never have a chance to see the court over the next 4 years since Shyatt recruits such talented kids with high character who stick with the program until their senior year.

 

[Cosmic Cowboy]

Well if Sam Averbuck or Cody Kelley put in a game like Bentz did for us his senior year I'd be happy. Hell we might even have the chance to win a few games if that happens.

 

[McPeachy]

Shyatt needs to borrow a couple guys from Bohl. There is no reason to waste a red-shirt when this team has no chance of winning the tournament.

Burning a redshirt on a walk-on who may never see the court anyway, I don't think is a huge deal. Particularly if 3 of the 7 scholarship athletes left foul out. That would leave us with 4 on the court...although the chances of that are slim, very slim.

This thread has become quite confusing...walk-on redshirts, versus scholarship redshirts, versus whateverinthefuck Monkeyboy is talking about with McManeman.

Grab 6 guys from the football team and you still get to SDSU at best without wasting the red-shirt. This team has no chance at winning the MWC tournament. What's the point in wasting the kid's red-shirt over one or two games?

Why reward a football player (or six as you say) with a trip to Vegas, when you can give a freshman walk-on or two (again who will probably NEVER see the court - ever again - EVER) the thrill to play in the MW tourney and with Josh?

Essentially...it comes down to this: There is no such thing as wasting a redshirt when referring to a walk on player (in regards to hoops).

That Jack Bentz never saw the court now did he. He was terrible and got plenty of minutes. The current walk-ons have a lot more talent than Bentz. I'm sure they'll never have a chance to see the court over the next 4 years since Shyatt recruits such talented kids with high character who stick with the program until their senior year.

Jack Bentz...gotta love the fact he stuck with the program as a non-scholarship walk on player. And he was clearly rewarded as such, his senior year (and only his senior year) by Shyatt for doing so. But terrible is right, with an awesome state line of 22 GP, 8 MPG, an 11.1 FG%, and .4 PPG.

I would much rather have had (and seen) a scholarship athlete see the court and have playing time (in the instance of Jack Bentz 2014-2015, that would have been any of the following: Lieberman, Gorski, McManeman, Barnes, Herndon, Sellers - until he quit, and hell - could have even burned the scholarship redshirts on Williams and Washington looking back).

Lastly, if any walk on athlete is leading the charge for Wyoming basketball in 3-4 years, not only are we completely fucked on all accounts, but we have some serious internal issues and will be the perennial bottom dwellers of the MWC. That, and my season tickets along with CJC donations will have been cancelled.

 

[DVDA]

Shyatt needs to borrow a couple guys from Bohl. There is no reason to waste a red-shirt when this team has no chance of winning the tournament.

Burning a redshirt on a walk-on who may never see the court anyway, I don't think is a huge deal. Particularly if 3 of the 7 scholarship athletes left foul out. That would leave us with 4 on the court...although the chances of that are slim, very slim.

This thread has become quite confusing...walk-on redshirts, versus scholarship redshirts, versus whateverinthefuck Monkeyboy is talking about with McManeman.

Grab 6 guys from the football team and you still get to SDSU at best without wasting the red-shirt. This team has no chance at winning the MWC tournament. What's the point in wasting the kid's red-shirt over one or two games?

Why reward a football player (or six as you say) with a trip to Vegas, when you can give a freshman walk-on or two (again who will probably NEVER see the court - ever again - EVER) the thrill to play in the MW tourney and with Josh?

Essentially...it comes down to this: There is no such thing as wasting a redshirt when referring to a walk on player (in regards to hoops).

That Jack Bentz never saw the court now did he. He was terrible and got plenty of minutes. The current walk-ons have a lot more talent than Bentz. I'm sure they'll never have a chance to see the court over the next 4 years since Shyatt recruits such talented kids with high character who stick with the program until their senior year.

Jack Bentz...gotta love the fact he stuck with the program as a non-scholarship walk on player. And he was clearly rewarded as such, his senior year (and only his senior year) by Shyatt for doing so. But terrible is right, with an awesome state line of 22 GP, 8 MPG, an 11.1 FG%, and .4 PPG.

I would much rather have had (and seen) a scholarship athlete see the court and have playing time (in the instance of Jack Bentz 2014-2015, that would have been any of the following: Lieberman, Gorski, McManeman, Barnes, Herndon, Sellers - until he quit, and hell - could have even burned the scholarship redshirts on Williams and Washington looking back).

Lastly, if any walk on athlete is leading the charge for Wyoming basketball in 3-4 years, not only are we completely fucked on all accounts, but we have some serious internal issues and will be the perennial bottom dwellers of the MWC. That, and my season tickets along with CJC donations will have been cancelled.

Did I ever say these guys were going to be team leaders? You make a lot of assumptions and argue with ideas in your head.

You are counting these kids out as if they have no chance of ever being halfway decent. Sure, walk-ons are usually Jack Bentz quality. Scottie Pippen and Jeff Hornacek were also walk-ons. Some guys need time to develop. Shyatt has given scholarships to pretty meh guards while he's been here and his attrition rate is strong enough that he was going to sign two kids this year with only one scholarship available. Both of these guys can compete with the Jeremy Liebermans and Trey Washingtons of the world. At the very least, you hope they are capable of providing depth and 8 mpg when they are red-shirt seniors. That 8 mpg allows Shyatt to red-shirt a freshman or two which is supposed to help the program long-term. To throw that away over one or two games is shortsighted.

 

[LanderPoke]

I'd throw any walk-on's redshirt away for a tourney game if we even needed 2 minutes out of him. It's the tourney!

 

[Cosmic Cowboy]

I literally can't think of a better time to use your walk on's then this time right now. 3 active players suspended during Josh Adams final MWC tourney run. The program is getting to the point were walk ons won't ever play, unless something exactly like this happens. Now if one or both of these walk ons out perform our current guys......well we might have a problem on our hands and some thinking to do.

 

[McPeachy]

Shyatt needs to borrow a couple guys from Bohl. There is no reason to waste a red-shirt when this team has no chance of winning the tournament.

Burning a redshirt on a walk-on who may never see the court anyway, I don't think is a huge deal. Particularly if 3 of the 7 scholarship athletes left foul out. That would leave us with 4 on the court...although the chances of that are slim, very slim.

This thread has become quite confusing...walk-on redshirts, versus scholarship redshirts, versus whateverinthefuck Monkeyboy is talking about with McManeman.

Grab 6 guys from the football team and you still get to SDSU at best without wasting the red-shirt. This team has no chance at winning the MWC tournament. What's the point in wasting the kid's red-shirt over one or two games?

Why reward a football player (or six as you say) with a trip to Vegas, when you can give a freshman walk-on or two (again who will probably NEVER see the court - ever again - EVER) the thrill to play in the MW tourney and with Josh?

Essentially...it comes down to this: There is no such thing as wasting a redshirt when referring to a walk on player (in regards to hoops).

That Jack Bentz never saw the court now did he. He was terrible and got plenty of minutes. The current walk-ons have a lot more talent than Bentz. I'm sure they'll never have a chance to see the court over the next 4 years since Shyatt recruits such talented kids with high character who stick with the program until their senior year.

Jack Bentz...gotta love the fact he stuck with the program as a non-scholarship walk on player. And he was clearly rewarded as such, his senior year (and only his senior year) by Shyatt for doing so. But terrible is right, with an awesome state line of 22 GP, 8 MPG, an 11.1 FG%, and .4 PPG.

I would much rather have had (and seen) a scholarship athlete see the court and have playing time (in the instance of Jack Bentz 2014-2015, that would have been any of the following: Lieberman, Gorski, McManeman, Barnes, Herndon, Sellers - until he quit, and hell - could have even burned the scholarship redshirts on Williams and Washington looking back).

Lastly, if any walk on athlete is leading the charge for Wyoming basketball in 3-4 years, not only are we completely fucked on all accounts, but we have some serious internal issues and will be the perennial bottom dwellers of the MWC. That, and my season tickets along with CJC donations will have been cancelled.

Did I ever say these guys were going to be team leaders? You make a lot of assumptions and argue with ideas in your head.

You are counting these kids out as if they have no chance of ever being halfway decent. Sure, walk-ons are usually Jack Bentz quality. Scottie Pippen and Jeff Hornacek were also walk-ons. Some guys need time to develop. Shyatt has given scholarships to pretty meh guards while he's been here and his attrition rate is strong enough that he was going to sign two kids this year with only one scholarship available. Both of these guys can compete with the Jeremy Liebermans and Trey Washingtons of the world. At the very least, you hope they are capable of providing depth and 8 mpg when they are red-shirt seniors. That 8 mpg allows Shyatt to red-shirt a freshman or two which is supposed to help the program long-term. To throw that away over one or two games is shortsighted.

Really? Why so uptight, tax season? You are failing to see any of my (and others who have also posted the same sentiments) points. So, to hell with this conversation. Let's just leave it at we completely disagree on the topic, and so be it.