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The state fast tracked the AA project.

laxwyo said:
The SLC valley is growing a ton which can contribute to the bump. It also doesn't hurt that they've been to an NCAA finals fairly recently and won a couple of BCS bowls.

UW would definitely benefit from Laramie growing. I can't even think of any industry in Laramie.
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CNAs and Corona Village.
 
fromolwyoming said:
laxwyo said:
The SLC valley is growing a ton which can contribute to the bump. It also doesn't hurt that they've been to an NCAA finals fairly recently and won a couple of BCS bowls.

UW would definitely benefit from Laramie growing. I can't even think of any industry in Laramie.
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CNAs and Corona Village.
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Isn't there a cement plant south of town?

In all fairness, I think there have been a handful of consultencies that have started in town--but one of those had to move becauuse they couldn't recruit enough employees to handle the work they had as long as they were in Laramie.
 
It just seems like they built a town around a college instead of putting a college in a town. In comparison, Rock Springs and Green River have like 6 trona mines, at least two coal mines, a power plant, a simplot fertilizer plant, Natural gas facilities and many many more. I'm not saying that either of these towns are a better fit for a university, but I am saying that UW would benefit from being in a place where there is something other than the University or something related to the University.
 
laxwyo said:
It just seems like they built a town around a college instead of putting a college in a town. In comparison, Rock Springs and Green River have like 6 trona mines, at least two coal mines, a power plant, a simplot fertilizer plant, Natural gas facilities and many many more. I'm not saying that either of these towns are a better fit for a university, but I am saying that UW would benefit from being in a place where there is something other than the University or something related to the University.
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We are talking late 1800's here...

Think of all the Meth the University doesn't have to deal with not being in Green River, Rock Springs, Casper, Gillette, Cheyenne, Evanston, Etc.

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laxwyo said:
It just seems like they built a town around a college instead of putting a college in a town. In comparison, Rock Springs and Green River have like 6 trona mines, at least two coal mines, a power plant, a simplot fertilizer plant, Natural gas facilities and many many more. I'm not saying that either of these towns are a better fit for a university, but I am saying that UW would benefit from being in a place where there is something other than the University or something related to the University.
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As peach pointed out, obviously none of those things were around in 1886. Green River barely existed (about 500 people) and even Rock Springs was much smaller than Laramie at the time.

Laramie actually is a pretty natural location when you consider the time and surrounding precedents. Transportation was not as easy in those days and it is not a coincidence that many primary state Universities and Land Grant Universities are located within a modest distance of the state capital and/or primary city at the time (Lawrence, Boulder, Norman, etc.).

When UW was founded the two most populous Wyoming counties were Laramie County followed by Albany. Laramie County still is the most populous of course and the majority of the counties that have since passed Albany (Sweetwater, Campbell, Natrona) have done so as a result of natural resource extraction at a level that was difficult to conceive at the time.

In hindsight I think there clearly would be some modern day benefits of having the University in a more central location (Casper or Lander perhaps) within the state, but OTOH, I can't imagine it being anywhere else.
 
There isn't alot of industry in Cheyenne either. Cheyenne has built itself up around the State and Federal government presense inside the city. Cheyenne, however, has proactively went out and found different businesses and offered incentives for them to locate/relocate to Cheyenne. The business park out south of town is often given away at low prices (Echostar recieved 40 acres for $1.00 to put their uplink facility there). This sort of methodology is allowing Cheyenne to diversify itself away from the government rather quickly.

The difference between Laramie and Cheyenne is Cheyenne wants to grow, Laramie does not. Laramie has plenty of opportunity to significantly increase its population, it just choses not to like most other Wyoming towns and cities.

Until this mentality changes, you won't see anything more than a modest growth rate in Laramie. I'm not saying this is a good or bad thing, it is just the way it is.

Personally, I think Laramie needs to be targeting the 50k-80k range to help diversify its economy and help the university grow.
 
wyobrandon said:
There isn't alot of industry in Cheyenne either. Cheyenne has built itself up around the State and Federal government presense inside the city. Cheyenne, however, has proactively went out and found different businesses and offered incentives for them to locate/relocate to Cheyenne. The business park out south of town is often given away at low prices (Echostar recieved 40 acres for $1.00 to put their uplink facility there). This sort of methodology is allowing Cheyenne to diversify itself away from the government rather quickly.

The difference between Laramie and Cheyenne is Cheyenne wants to grow, Laramie does not. Laramie has plenty of opportunity to significantly increase its population, it just choses not to like most other Wyoming towns and cities.

Until this mentality changes, you won't see anything more than a modest growth rate in Laramie. I'm not saying this is a good or bad thing, it is just the way it is.

Personally, I think Laramie needs to be targeting the 50k-80k range to help diversify its economy and help the university grow.
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Exactly. What better to have in your town than a University? I think Laramie could definitely encourage business in the town and diversify. I do agree that it's a mentality thing. Why else would there not be a titty bar in a University town?
 
McPeachy said:
laxwyo said:
It just seems like they built a town around a college instead of putting a college in a town. In comparison, Rock Springs and Green River have like 6 trona mines, at least two coal mines, a power plant, a simplot fertilizer plant, Natural gas facilities and many many more. I'm not saying that either of these towns are a better fit for a university, but I am saying that UW would benefit from being in a place where there is something other than the University or something related to the University.
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We are talking late 1800's here...

Think of all the Meth the University doesn't have to deal with not being in Green River, Rock Springs, Casper, Gillette, Cheyenne, Evanston, Etc.

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wyobrandon said:
Laramie needs to be targeting the 50k-80k range to help diversify its economy and help the university grow.
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Playing the chicken-and-egg game, Wyoming generally needs to diversify the economy and the university needs to grow in order for Laramie to approach 50K-80 people.

Does Laramie have the water for 50K+ people? Are there 50K people who would want to stay in Laramie year-round for the long term?

If you could start a new academic department with the A-A money, which field of study do you think would attract the greatest number of new students who would not enroll at UW otherwise?
 
WyoExpat said:
wyobrandon said:
Laramie needs to be targeting the 50k-80k range to help diversify its economy and help the university grow.
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Playing the chicken-and-egg game, Wyoming generally needs to diversify the economy and the university needs to grow in order for Laramie to approach 50K-80 people.

Does Laramie have the water for 50K+ people? Are there 50K people who would want to stay in Laramie year-round for the long term?

If you could start a new academic department with the A-A money, which field of study do you think would attract the greatest number of new students who would not enroll at UW otherwise?
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Water prices in Laramie are supposed to double over the next few years. I know of several people that refuse to water their lawns now because of the water prices going up. And it is going up in noticeable numbers each and every month.
 
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