The simple fact is...

[wellpoke]

No one would have beaten San Diego last night. They shot 50% from three and 45% from the floor. We knew they played great defense and it was going to cause some turnovers, but nobody expected them to light it up like they did from three in the first five minutes. They miss a few of those have they generally have until last night, and this is a different game. Even with Nance healthy, we probably don't win that game last night.

But this season isn't over. We have San Jose at home, which should be a W even without Nance. Then Nevada, who we beat by eight at home and it wasn't that close. Should be a W. Nance will hopefully be back for Fresno at home, when we can get back into the swing of things and get ready for the tournament in March.

This season isn't over. Not by a long shot. And I'm looking forward to the rest of the ride.

GO POKES!

 

[ItSucksToBeACSURam]

No one would have beaten San Diego last night. They shot 50% from three and 45% from the floor. We knew they played great defense and it was going to cause some turnovers, but nobody expected them to light it up like they did from three in the first five minutes. They miss a few of those have they generally have until last night, and this is a different game. Even with Nance healthy, we probably don't win that game last night.

But this season isn't over. We have San Jose at home, which should be a W even without Nance. Then Nevada, who we beat by eight at home and it wasn't that close. Should be a W. Nance will hopefully be back for Fresno at home, when we can get back into the swing of things and get ready for the tournament in March.

This season isn't over. Not by a long shot. And I'm looking forward to the rest of the ride.

GO POKES!

Doesn't it seem like every game we lose we say that? Every team we play seems to have record nights against us...

 

[wellpoke]

Doesn't it seem like every game we lose we say that? Every team we play seems to have record nights against us...

I think we have gotten everyone's best game up to this point. We were leading the conference, ranked, etc, and everyone wanted to take us down. And teams like San Diego, Air Force, and New Mexico, CSEwe, Utah State all gave us everything they could. For SDSU, AF, and USU, it worked.

But getting everybody's best game means they all recognize the need/opportunity to beat us. Which is light years from where we were four years ago. Don't get me wrong, we've still got work to do, but Shyatt has brought us out of the depths of college basketball. To the point where now everyone gets up to play us. I'll take that.

GO POKES!

 

[SDPokeFan]

No one would have beaten San Diego last night. They shot 50% from three and 45% from the floor. We knew they played great defense and it was going to cause some turnovers, but nobody expected them to light it up like they did from three in the first five minutes. They miss a few of those have they generally have until last night, and this is a different game. Even with Nance healthy, we probably don't win that game last night.

But this season isn't over. We have San Jose at home, which should be a W even without Nance. Then Nevada, who we beat by eight at home and it wasn't that close. Should be a W. Nance will hopefully be back for Fresno at home, when we can get back into the swing of things and get ready for the tournament in March.

This season isn't over. Not by a long shot. And I'm looking forward to the rest of the ride.

GO POKES!

I like this "should be a win without Nance" line. What the hell has this team shown you in the past two games without him that makes you think they could beat Laramie High School without Nance, much less a Division I basketball team? No Nance = No Chance.

 

[McPeachy]

It just makes me ill - that we lose one player, and wha-lah, become the worst team in the conference. It is going to take everything we have to beat SJSU Saturday.

And I don't know about you guys - but what I saw the last 2 games, it sure doesn't look like anyone on the team is enjoying the game of basketball. We have lost our mojo...and our best player. A recipe for an 0'fer from here out.

 

[stymeman]

agreed but I'm still upset beyond all belief that we looked scared last night and a total lack of effort for the most part, I think the buzz saw was inevitable regardless our strength or not. Coach Shyatt said it best it was all on him, getting them prepared etc...YES...I want to see adjustments big time, Larry probably won't play saturday. Hey UW warning flags...a 0-11, 2-21 SJSU team is coming to our house Saturday, BE READY, they can be potentially dangerous.
Give me effort and show me you aren't just a one man team!!

I think it's now mental with the 1-8 w/o Larry

 

[Adv8RU12]

It is going to take everything we have to beat SJSU Saturday.

I think it is going to take MORE than we currently have to beat SJSU. By that I mean this: The current offensive plan to me seems stale. Looking at it from a distance it reminds me of a toy wind-up doll. You wind it up and it goes thru EXACTLY the same motion every time, just like the Poke offense. And you don't think the defense knows this? All the teams have figured it out by now. Some teams with lesser talent have not been able to compensate (but AFA did).

 

[wellpoke]

I like this "should be a win without Nance" line. What the hell has this team shown you in the past two games without him that makes you think they could beat Laramie High School without Nance, much less a Division I basketball team?

What do I see?

I see a team that's only lost once at home this season - to probably the best team in the conference.
I see a team who beat SJSU in their place, with Adams scoring 20.
I see a team that hasn't lost twice in a row before last night.
I see a team with one of the best coaching staffs in the conference, who will have this team prepared.
I see a team that will be focused and pissed off, playing at home with something to prove.

Call me a sunshine-pumper, tell me take off my brown and gold glasses, whatever. I see a team that will win on Saturday, and I'll be there to support them.

Hope all of you that just jumped off the bandwagon will be too.

GO POKES!

 

[McPeachy]

It is going to take everything we have to beat SJSU Saturday.

I think it is going to take MORE than we currently have to beat SJSU. By that I mean this: The current offensive plan to me seems stale. Looking at it from a distance it reminds me of a toy wind-up doll. You wind it up and it goes thru EXACTLY the same motion every time, just like the Poke offense. And you don't think the defense knows this? All the teams have figured it out by now. Some teams with lesser talent have not been able to compensate (but AFA did).

Good post - good analogy.

We certainly all (here) aren't D1 basketball coaches, but this eerily appears to be the proper definition of insanity...doing the same things over and over and expecting different results.

 

[WilyWapiti]

It is going to take everything we have to beat SJSU Saturday.

I think it is going to take MORE than we currently have to beat SJSU. By that I mean this: The current offensive plan to me seems stale. Looking at it from a distance it reminds me of a toy wind-up doll. You wind it up and it goes thru EXACTLY the same motion every time, just like the Poke offense. And you don't think the defense knows this? All the teams have figured it out by now. Some teams with lesser talent have not been able to compensate (but AFA did).

SDSU certainly has it figured out, both in the game here in Laramie and last night's game. Their defenders are beating our players to the pass almost every time, and don't even get me started on our supposed "press break."

Their press absolutely killed us in Laramie, and it was even worse last night. Did we not make any adjustments at all?

WW

 

[wyoav211933]

No one would have beaten San Diego last night. They shot 50% from three and 45% from the floor. We knew they played great defense and it was going to cause some turnovers, but nobody expected them to light it up like they did from three in the first five minutes. They miss a few of those have they generally have until last night, and this is a different game. Even with Nance healthy, we probably don't win that game last night.

But this season isn't over. We have San Jose at home, which should be a W even without Nance. Then Nevada, who we beat by eight at home and it wasn't that close. Should be a W. Nance will hopefully be back for Fresno at home, when we can get back into the swing of things and get ready for the tournament in March.

This season isn't over. Not by a long shot. And I'm looking forward to the rest of the ride.

GO POKES!

I dunno, I felt like many of those 3's in the first half were pretty easy, uncontested, wide open looks while we were scrambling. So while I say kudos to them for making those 3's, I feel like a number of teams could've at least made them try harder. It is just mind-blowing to me that we looked unprepared again for the full-court press. They only did to us almost all game in Laramie, you'd think this is something that they could've worked on prior to yesterday's game. Even high school teams practice that. And when they weren't making 3's the rest of their point were off of turnovers. I don't really believe that we were unlucky and caught SDSU playing unworldly basketball as much as we just played awful and made them look good.

I really want to be optimistic like you, I really do, but the honest to goodness truth is that while I believe we should have the talent to beat SJSU without Nance, we really should've had the talent to have beaten AF without Nance too and we still lost by over 20 to a bottom-dwelling team. Then I look at Nevada, and sure the game in Laramie was never in doubt, but even with Nance and playing at home we still didn't exactly dominate them and in fact for a while it looked like we were about to blow it. I just don't see us winning that one if it is on the road and without Nance. At this point I think we all agree that we just need to win the conference tourney, but even with Nance we are a much different team away from Laramie. Sorry if this sounds really down, but that is the future we are facing the rest of this season

 

[TSpoke]

No one would have beaten San Diego last night. They shot 50% from three and 45% from the floor. We knew they played great defense and it was going to cause some turnovers, but nobody expected them to light it up like they did from three in the first five minutes. They miss a few of those have they generally have until last night, and this is a different game. Even with Nance healthy, we probably don't win that game last night.

But this season isn't over. We have San Jose at home, which should be a W even without Nance. Then Nevada, who we beat by eight at home and it wasn't that close. Should be a W. Nance will hopefully be back for Fresno at home, when we can get back into the swing of things and get ready for the tournament in March.

This season isn't over. Not by a long shot. And I'm looking forward to the rest of the ride.

GO POKES!

I dunno, I felt like many of those 3's in the first half were pretty easy, uncontested, wide open looks while we were scrambling. So while I say kudos to them for making those 3's, I feel like a number of teams could've at least made them try harder. It is just mind-blowing to me that we looked unprepared again for the full-court press. They only did to us almost all game in Laramie, you'd think this is something that they could've worked on prior to yesterday's game. Even high school teams practice that. And when they weren't making 3's the rest of their point were off of turnovers. I don't really believe that we were unlucky and caught SDSU playing unworldly basketball as much as we just played awful and made them look good.

I really want to be optimistic like you, I really do, but the honest to goodness truth is that while I believe we should have the talent to beat SJSU without Nance, we really should've had the talent to have beaten AF without Nance too and we still lost by over 20 to a bottom-dwelling team. Then I look at Nevada, and sure the game in Laramie was never in doubt, but even with Nance and playing at home we still didn't exactly dominate them and in fact for a while it looked like we were about to blow it. I just don't see us winning that one if it is on the road and without Nance. At this point I think we all agree that we just need to win the conference tourney, but even with Nance we are a much different team away from Laramie. Sorry if this sounds really down, but that is the future we are facing the rest of this season

While I agree some of the threes were wide open they still shot much better than they have even having wide open ones. So our leaving them open certainly played a role they were also shooting amazing on there own. I remember one of their first ones was way behind the line with Adams in his face and he nailed it. I said"If this is how they are shooting the game is already over"
Our lousey defense was a direct reflection of missing Nance. We had to collapse in much more than we do when Nance is in leaving us farther away from the shooters leaving them more open. I have a feeling this was part of the game plan. We knew they struggle shooting so without Nance we had to collapse on the paint and hope they didn't shoot well from 3. Unfortunately they did.

 

[stymeman]

No bandwagon jumping here, just frustrated, big, big difference

 

[wellpoke]

I dunno, I felt like many of those 3's in the first half were pretty easy, uncontested, wide open looks

IMO, that was by design. They haven't been a great 3-point shooting team so far, so I think the game plan was to make them beat us outside. They did, then got comfortable and starting knocking down everything.

we really should've had the talent to have beaten AF without Nance too and we still lost by over 20 to a bottom-dwelling team.

We do have the talent to beat AF. But you have to remember that Nance was literally on the bus before they decided to pull him. You can't expect any changes made at that point to sit well. We looked lost against AF because we weren't expecting to play without Nance. We didn't look as lost against SDSU, especially in the second half.

but even with Nance and playing at home we still didn't exactly dominate them

We haven't dominated anyone - and we're not going to. It's not our style. The slow it down, use all the shot clock style we're playing makes an 8 point win a pretty big deal.

At this point I think we all agree that we just need to win the conference tourney,

Agreed. but we need to win a few going in to the tourney to keep confidence up. I think they can.

No bandwagon jumping here, just frustrated, big, big difference

I know, I just get really tired of all the chicken little's who think the world is coming to an end because we lost to the best team in the conference. Perspective, people. There's a lot of basketball left to play.

GO POKES!

 

[calpoke25]

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[stymeman]

didn't we already tune into this channel last year, unfortunately, it would be fun to see something different for a change, that's all I'm asking