ItSucksToBeACSURam
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F*ck that dude! So glad he's gone. Good riddance
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The heck with Dave Christensen
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BackHarlowRoad
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OrediggerPoke said:
If this were true, Utah would have never left.
OrediggerPoke
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BackHarlowRoad said:
Utah had big dollar reasons to leave, don't take the facts out of context. Of course Utah would leave the MWC as would any other team. The PAC-12 and the MWC are both FBS level teams and thus play at the same level of college football.
By Christensen basically saying he is happy to leave so he can coach "high level players" he has taken a cheap shot at every player that ever played for him at Wyoming period.
WestWYOPoke
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OrediggerPoke said:
Again, just like Back Harlow inferred: are we by literal definition at the same level? Yes. In reality, are the MWC and PAC-12 on the same level? No and not even close. Not saying we shouldn't strive to beat the best, but when offered a scholly to both Wyo and Utah 90% of the kids with no natural tie to UW are gonna go to Utah. I don't like it, nor do I want a coach that accepts it, but I am aware of this reality.
What I take from that article is Christensen himself admitting he was a terrible head coach. Instead of complaining about the lack of talent; change it! Your the head coach. If you want elite players, go out and recruit them and fuck the excuses.
Furthermore this is Christensen admitting he can't recruit relys on other coaches to provide him the talent he needs. Good players can make ANY offense look good. No play in football is designed NOT TO SCORE. Although I question that with DC.
Furthermore this is Christensen admitting he can't recruit relys on other coaches to provide him the talent he needs. Good players can make ANY offense look good. No play in football is designed NOT TO SCORE. Although I question that with DC.
McPeachy
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OrediggerPoke said:
I loved these 2 lines (amongst the many) from DC - from the first time I met the MOFO by the way:
"I am not here to make friends, I am here to win football games, and we will win football games."
- I should have asked him to quantify how many, and that I was taking him off my dinner party list.
"People ask me all the time, Dave - what can we do to help you out? So I carry around a little spiral notebook in my pocket, that has all the things I want for my program, and when somebody asks me, I pull out the notebook and tell them, hey I want practice field goal posts installed, and things like that."
- I should have said, you are a cocksucker and you can only act that if you win. A lot.
BeaverPoke
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If you look at successful spread offenses, it is built off of having better athletes. Specifically having a good athletic QB, and FAST WRs.
That is why Mizzou was so successful.
They have great athletes.
That is why we blew out teams like Idaho, Northern Colorado, and AFA, and were able to beat Hawaii and NM.
Christensen NEEDS good athletes for his offense to succeed.
Glenn won games with less than stellar recruits, and DC only won games where he had the talent advantage with the exception of the 2009 NM Bowl.
I really can not think of another game where DC straight up out coached the other coach with his players for a win they "shouldn't" have had.
Almost Nebraska. Almost BYU. Almost Utah. A handful of almosts, but to me there was only 1 really good, gutsy, never say die game by DC, and that was the NM Bowl over Fresno.
DC needs good athletes.
His offense is great with those players. But if he doesn't have them, even a Brett Smith offense will only put up 7 points.
I am so glad he is gone, he sucked.
That is why Mizzou was so successful.
They have great athletes.
That is why we blew out teams like Idaho, Northern Colorado, and AFA, and were able to beat Hawaii and NM.
Christensen NEEDS good athletes for his offense to succeed.
Glenn won games with less than stellar recruits, and DC only won games where he had the talent advantage with the exception of the 2009 NM Bowl.
I really can not think of another game where DC straight up out coached the other coach with his players for a win they "shouldn't" have had.
Almost Nebraska. Almost BYU. Almost Utah. A handful of almosts, but to me there was only 1 really good, gutsy, never say die game by DC, and that was the NM Bowl over Fresno.
DC needs good athletes.
His offense is great with those players. But if he doesn't have them, even a Brett Smith offense will only put up 7 points.
I am so glad he is gone, he sucked.
I don't see what he said as "coach speak". The question wasn't "How do you feel the quality of players are between the two schools?" it was "Any reservation about being an assistant coach again after five years as a head coach?". He didn't even answer the question. He took the opportunity to try and play up what "he" did (2 bowl games and beating CSU) and to make it sound like he wanted a demotion to a better conference, rather than say "I feel like the failed c*nt that I am.". He wants to coach high level players, really, does that mean he'd take a position coaching job in the NFL? If he was in such a hurry to coach higher level players, why did he wait until he was fired to do so and why did he sign an extension?pokefanchaz7 said:
BeaverPoke
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Saying the MWC and Pac12 are at the same level is like saying the CFL and the NFL are the same level.
Technically, you are getting paid to play professional football in the CFL just like the NFL, but everyone knows that the NFL is better.
Same type of thing with the MWC and Pac12. Technically you are both D1 and FBS, but everyone knows the Pac12 is at a higher level than the MWC.
MWC is closer to Big Sky than it is to Pac12.
Technically, you are getting paid to play professional football in the CFL just like the NFL, but everyone knows that the NFL is better.
Same type of thing with the MWC and Pac12. Technically you are both D1 and FBS, but everyone knows the Pac12 is at a higher level than the MWC.
MWC is closer to Big Sky than it is to Pac12.
BeaverPoke said:
I don't think anyone is debating with you as to whether the PAC 12 is better than the MWC. But it's not like their last place team is better than our first place team, or that their 1200 or so players are all better than all of our 1200 players. Yes, their top teams and players are better than our top teams and players (generally), but then it starts to get grey. For instance, a MWC team with 6 losses just beat a PAC 12 team with 6 losses. It wasn't like we sent Fresno or Boise to the NM Bowl to take on WSU, we sent CSU!
BeaverPoke
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cowboyz said:
To counter your point cowboyz, a 6-6 Pac12 team just destroyed a 8-4 MWC team.
BeaverPoke said:
This is why I say it gets grey. Once again, not arguing that the PAC 12 isn't better, no one is. Especially this season where the MWC has had a down year. Oregon Sate wins the game and finished the season 7-6, Boise lost and finished 8-5, one game better. This is not the Boise of a few years ago. They come into the game with a back up QB, a pretend coach (not the one that resigned or the one that is coming in) and their leader, playing or not, gets sent home. This is exactly when a mighty PAC 12 team should come in and crush a disorganized MWC team, and that's how the game started. Boise looked shit early on. But eventually Boise gained more yards, more first downs and the Boise offense was even able to have more scores, not points, but scores, than the Oregon State offense. Spotting Or St two TD's early on with fumble returns for TDs was too much of a hole. Having said that, and there's no way of ever knowing, but I feel if Or St had their back-up QB and a temporary coach, Boise wins the game. However, I see no way a CFL team beats an NFL team. The worse NFL team is better than the best CFL team. I don't see the same analogy for the PAC 12 and the MWC.
BeaverPoke
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For the record, Cody Vaz would tear Boise up the same way Mannion did.
So Boise finished 8-5, 1 game better than OSU at 7-6, but OSU killed Boise, doesn't that show that the Pac12 is much harder to get through?
So Boise finished 8-5, 1 game better than OSU at 7-6, but OSU killed Boise, doesn't that show that the Pac12 is much harder to get through?
BackHarlowRoad
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laxwyo said:
He's already proved himself as a BCS offensive coordinator....that's why we hired him. Coordinator of the year?
pokefanchaz7
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It's funny how people are so quick to forget that whole assistant coach of the year business. He was a good offensive coach who did badly against great competition. I don't know the reason for that but that is a fact. He had a few almost games bit in reality couldn't get the big wins.
Just returned home from going to Utah for the holidays. To say the relatives there are upset with the hiring of DC is an understatement. Most of them firmly believe that this hiring will be the end of Wittingham. They were not impressed with DC's resume at Missouri, and even less impressed with him as a head coach at Wyoming. I can't stand Utah, so I am thrilled they have DC leading their offense - run, pass, pass, punt. :willybs:
BeaverPoke
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Utah fans not being impressed with DC at Mizzou is bullshit. That just goes to show how little they know when it comes to college football. They think college football revolves around the state of Utah. Here is a little secret, EVERYONE in the COUNTRY was impressed with DC at Mizzou. They might not like him because of his resume at Wyo, but to say they weren't impressed with him at Mizzou is them talking out of their ass and acting like they know about something they really don't.
