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TCU vs. Boise in the Fiesta Bowl

Total 100% bull shit. The Bcs is just trying not to be embarrassed by both these teams beating bcs school
 
i think that exactly what it is. Those big time programs dont want to risk losing against a non-bcs school. They match the two together so no big time school gets embarassed. Total Bull :evil:
 
How did Cincy get past TCU in the rankings? Did people completely forget that they actually lost a game (the one the refs gave them a few weeks back), and that they pretty much lost yesterday as well?
They are NOT the #3 team in the nation.

TCU got screwed in the ass so freaking hard it's not even funny. No matter who wins this matchup, they'll get absolutely ZERO respect. I think we need to make a LOT of noise on message boards all over (especially on ESPN) and help out the TCU and Boise fans. This is awful for Mountain West.

Guess they didn't want to see a Florida or Texas pwnd the way Bama went down to Utah.
 
This is how this game got chosen:

* Teams #1 and #2 get automatically placed into the National Championship Game ( Alabama and Texas )
* Champions from all the conference (other than the Big East) are contractually tied into their set bowl games (unless they were selected to the NCG)
Orange Bowl = ACC (Ga Tech)
Rose Bowl = Big 10 (Ohio State) and Pac-10 (Oregon)
Fiesta Bowl = Big 12 (No team, Texas in NCG)
Sugar Bowl = SEC (No team, Alabama in NCG)
* Those teams losing their Auto-qualifiers from above, get to select from the remaining auto-qualifiers (Big East champ and at-large teams). If more than one Bowl Game loses it's auto-qualifier, then the one that lost the #1 team picks first.
Sugar Bowl picks first (Florida)
Fiesta Bowl pick 2nd (TCU)
* Remaining spots are filled by a pre-determined order. For 2010 Bowl games the order is:
Orange Bowl = Iowa (they travel the best)
Fiesta = Boise (have history here)
Sugar = Cincy (last pick)

So, while I am pissed off that TCU and Boise are matched up, the only other option available was to put TCU vs. Cincy, which is just as bad a matchup. For TCU to get a matchup with Florida (the only real opponent not in the title game), the Fiesta would have had to pass on them twice and the Orange Bowl to pass on them as well.

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Shit like this is why we need a playoff system.
 
spindoctor02 said:
This is how this game got chosen:

* Teams #1 and #2 get automatically placed into the National Championship Game ( Alabama and Texas )
* Champions from all the conference (other than the Big East) are contractually tied into their set bowl games (unless they were selected to the NCG)
Orange Bowl = ACC (Ga Tech)
Rose Bowl = Big 10 (Ohio State) and Pac-10 (Oregon)
Fiesta Bowl = Big 12 (No team, Texas in NCG)
Sugar Bowl = SEC (No team, Alabama in NCG)
* Those teams losing their Auto-qualifiers from above, get to select from the remaining auto-qualifiers (Big East champ and at-large teams). If more than one Bowl Game loses it's auto-qualifier, then the one that lost the #1 team picks first.
Sugar Bowl picks first (Florida)
Fiesta Bowl pick 2nd (TCU)
* Remaining spots are filled by a pre-determined order. For 2010 Bowl games the order is:
Orange Bowl = Iowa (they travel the best)
Fiesta = Boise (have history here)
Sugar = Cincy (last pick)

So, while I am pissed off that TCU and Boise are matched up, the only other option available was to put TCU vs. Cincy, which is just as bad a matchup. For TCU to get a matchup with Florida (the only real opponent not in the title game), the Fiesta would have had to pass on them twice and the Orange Bowl to pass on them as well.

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s##t like this is why we need a playoff system.
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As true as what you just said is, there are backdoor deals that get made in bowls all the time and the BCS is no different. I wouldn't be shocked at all to find out that the fix was in on the Fiesta Bowl. Especially considering the history of the WAC and the MWC in the BCS over the last 4 seasons, taking down the likes of Alabama, Oklahoma and Pitt. Regardless of the way the tie-ins work, there's NO way the BCS big boys wanted to take the chance of 2 non-BCS qualifiers taking down the big boys in the same season, that would blow things all to hell for them. (not that this makes things any better, but they're the non-BCS teams so they really don't care)
 
Bull shit!!! This is ridiculous regardless who wins this football game i dont think they have proved anything to the nation they played each other last year in their bowl game and TCU won give both o these teams a chance to knock off a better team
 
gopokes1399 said:
Bull s##t!!! This is ridiculous regardless who wins this football game i dont think they have proved anything to the nation they played each other last year in their bowl game and TCU won give both o these teams a chance to knock off a better team
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I think the point here is that there ARE no better teams than TCU, and they would like to prove it ;)
 
gopokes1399 said:
do u think Boise hiring that firm helped at all? and how is it that they got 13 games
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They got 13 games because they traveled to Hawaii and whenever a team does that they are allowed to schedule a 13th game.

The Fiesta Bowl should have picked Cincy instead of Boise. Yes, Boise has history there but with Cincy being from the Big East it would have been a bigger draw. #3 vs #4? Perfect!

TCU kicking the tar out of Florida would have been great as well.
 
MrTitleist said:
The BCS Facebook page was a wreck last night. Man people were pissed.
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Talked to several people here who are huge OU fans including a guy who graduated from U. of Missouri and they were ALL pissed at the BCS!!!!
 
There was a lot of talk that Boise would get left out altogether. In the end the Mtn West and the WAC are getting the big bucks on New years day. Wasn't that long ago when we were being left out of the equation altogether. It was a freak year with all the undefeated teams, but we have established that the undefeated champs of either the WAC or the Mtn West have the necessary credentials to get that invite to the National Title game when things come together.

Does anyone think that we won't have a shot at the title sometime over the next 7 to 10 years? It has been 25 since the last shot. It might be a few years off, but we are getting closer each year. The WAC champ and the Mtn West champ in the Fiesta Bowl. 5 years ago they would have met in the Las Vegas Bowl.

It stinks because most of us think TCU would beat Texas 2 out of 3. If Alabama wallops Texas and TCU gets a win against BS. Maybe we will see TCU at #2 in the final standings. TCU does this twice and they will be in the title game next season.
 
Yes, that is a lot of money, but it's only half of what the bcs (cartel) gets. Here is an article I stole from the MWC board - somebody did a lot of research and posted it over there:

Here's the cartel media guide's explanation, on p. 13
http://www.bcsfootball.org/id/7212064_37_2.pdf

"REVENUE DISTRIBUTION
FOR 2010 BCS GAMES
Teams and conferences participating in Bowl Championship Series games receive revenue primarily from two sources – television and the host bowls.

A total of approximately $1.8 million will be paid to Football Championship Subdivision (formerly NCAA Division I-AA) conferences to support the overall health of college football. Also, independent institutions Army and Navy each will receive $100,000 for making their teams available to play in BCS games if selected.
Nine percent of the net revenues from the arrangement, which was approximately $9.6 million in 2008-09, is guaranteed in aggregate to Conference USA, the Mid- American, Mountain West, Sun Belt, and Western Athletic Conferences for their participation in the arrangement. When a team from one of those fi ve conferences plays in a BCS bowl game, the conferences will receive an additional nine percent of net revenues. When more than one team from those conferences play in the BCS bowl games, those conferences will receive an additional $4.5 million for each additional team.
Notre Dame is guaranteed 1/66th of the net revenues after expenses, or approximately $1.3 million. Notre Dame will receive $4.5 million when its team is a participant.
The share to each conference with an annual automatic berth in the BCS (ACC, Big East, Big 12, Big Ten, Pac-10, and SEC) is approximately $18.3 million. When a second
team from one of those conferences qualifi es to play in one of the games, that conference will receive an additional $4.5 million."
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Here're the BCS revenue figures for the last five years (incredibly rage-inducing)
http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/b3bf41004e0b9a8e9d00fd1ad6fc8b25/BCS++Revenue+Distribution+by+Conference+2008-09.pdf?MOD=AJPERES&CACHEID=b3bf41004e0b9a8e9d00fd1ad6fc8b25

the cliff's notes version:
For the 2008 season, the BCS distributed to its cartel conferences that had 2 BCS berths $23.172 million; to its cartel conferences with one BCS berth $18.672 million.

To the MWC, which had one BCS berth, $9.788 million, or ONE HALF of what the cartel one-berth conference got.

To the four no-berth non-cartel conferences, $1.5 million to $3.2 million.

To NotreLame: $1.3 million dollars.

In total, the BCS distributed $148.164 million, or:
15.6% to the 2-berth cartel conferences,
12.6% to the 1-berth cartel conferences,
6.6% to the 1-berth non-cartel conference,
1.0% to 2.2% to each of the 0-bearth conferences,
for a 12.1% total distribution to the non-cartel conferences.
and 0.9% to NotreLame.

using the revenue rules in the cartel media guide, I believe the non-cartel conferences will split 18% + $4.5 million of the net revenue from the cartel following the 2009 season bowls.

Using last season's revenue numbers, I calculate that as:

21.03% of the net cartel revenue, or $31.169 million.

How the five non-cartel conferences will split that check is not clear.
 
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