Tavon Bryan commits to Florida

[WyoAlum1987]

Yep, it all starts with the AD and the poor excuse for leadership there.
THis BS that we are who we are, and that Wyoming can never compete in the modern era is crap. :tickedoff:

Laramie has always been a whistlestop town on the windswept frozen plains...but great teams came out of here in the past because some men got others to believe in a vision of what they could all become...thats where it starts :thumb:
protecting the AD for making excuses and whining is just prolonging the current state of affairs... :thumbdown:

 

[MrTitleist]

Cornpoke.. out of curiousity, WTF happened that you didn't kick for Kentucky?

 

[NowherePoke]

If I was Bryan I would pick Florida over Wyoming or Nebraska in a heart beat.
He is 18.
He might end up living in Wyo forever after college, why not get out and explore? Go somewhere new? Meet new people?
And it's not like he owes UW anything.
Let's see, go to an SEC school where he will get to play in some of the best and biggest stadiums with over 100K people every saturday for 4 years, be a part of a truly great program, and conference that serves as the NFLs minor leagues, play with and against the best players in the country, get to spend time in hot sunny florida with tons and tons and tons of babes vs. Same old Wyoming that he has known for 18 years, playing against crap MWC teams in front of 18K people.

I think it is funny that people on this board are already in the early stages of criticizing him. Saying "Well I would have picked Wyo over Florida" and "Florida is too hot and stuff".
It's ridiculous. Laramie, WY/MWC over Gainsville, Florida/SEC?
Really? No one in their right mind is picking Wyo over Florida as a team to play college football.

Florida is a quality school, but not that difficult to get into for a quality student. Why didn't you attend Florida instead of spending time in rainy Corvallis or snowy Laramie?

LOL because Urban Meyer never offered me a scholarship to play football at Florida hahaha.

If he would have, I'd be down there!

Bryans choice probably had nothing to do with academics, and was all athletic. My decision had ZERO to do with athletics.

Florida Football>>>>>>>>>>Wyoming Football and nobody will argue differently. I guess I just felt that your post (and many of your recent posts) were very critical of Wyoming as a whole. The University, State, etc.

I can't criticize Taven Bryan's decision, he has a tremendous opportunity. I just don't think that Wyoming, Laramie, or UW are as terrible as you make them out to be. Our Football team is and probably deserves the negativity being thrown its way, but the same isn't true of the University as a whole.

 

[Wyokie]

Yep, it all starts with the AD and the poor excuse for leadership there.

What leadership? UW's admin & AD reminds me of Obama & Congress.

 

[NowherePoke]

So by the logic in expressed in this thread the only conclusion I can come to is that 1.Wyoming football should never rise above where we are now as a below average team 2.Wyoming football should be an afterthought to in state high school players. 3. and the worst part is.... That our fans are ok with this and encourage players to attend other schools and congratulate them for doing so.

Why even be a fan if you can accept such things?

1. No one said Wyoming should never rise above where they are now. Simply that we are not currently at Florida's level.

2. In-state players should and do consider Wyoming, and Wyoming should do all they can to recruit them.

3. We should be encouraging in-state players to go where ever they feel is best for them. They're their own person. Obviously if they chose Wyoming that'd be fantastic.

It's sad and very petty to hold grudges against kids for not choosing Wyoming. Kid accomplished something we never could, I'm happy for him. I'm completely ok with being a Wyoming fan and accepting that a local kid is going to be doing great things with his life, even if it doesn't make my Brown & Gold tingle.

1. Agreed

2. Agreed and actually this is almost always the case. I can't even remember the last legitimate FBS prospect out of Wyoming that was not recruited by Wyoming (some didn't sign with UW, but they were recruited by the Pokes). There were some mistakes made back in the Dimel/Koenning era but that was a long time ago now. Even in basketball there are only a couple of players that I can think of in the last 10 years (post Jaycee) that played D1 ball and were not offered by the Pokes (Bullinger at Weber and Martin at Montana. Maybe Dent, since I think he was on Weber's team for a year but he never really played) and none that signed at a comparable conference level.

3. Actually, I think we should encourage them to attend UW in a positive way. The "we" in this case, being the UW community which is a big part of the fabric of the state. However, we shouldn't criticize for them for following a different path if that is their choice. Crucially, we also shouldn't criticize UW coaches for not recruiting in-state talent. Most of them do and if there is a player they don't recruit, we should accept that choice and assume they had reasons for doing so, much like the choice for a student-athlete.

 

[WYCowboy]

So by the logic in expressed in this thread the only conclusion I can come to is that 1.Wyoming football should never rise above where we are now as a below average team 2.Wyoming football should be an afterthought to in state high school players. 3. and the worst part is.... That our fans are ok with this and encourage players to attend other schools and congratulate them for doing so.

Why even be a fan if you can accept such things?

1. No one said Wyoming should never rise above where they are now. Simply that we are not currently at Florida's level.

2. In-state players should and do consider Wyoming, and Wyoming should do all they can to recruit them.

3. We should be encouraging in-state players to go where ever they feel is best for them. They're their own person. Obviously if they chose Wyoming that'd be fantastic.

It's sad and very petty to hold grudges against kids for not choosing Wyoming. Kid accomplished something we never could, I'm happy for him. I'm completely ok with being a Wyoming fan and accepting that a local kid is going to be doing great is things with his life, even if it doesn't make my Brown & Gold tingle.

What is this we never did? I was recruited and signed with an SEC school coming out high school. Hal Mumme recruited me heavily to come to UK. Had I not been an idiot that summer after my senior year I would have played SEC ball. Not by choice mind you, but because it's where I grew up. Had Wyoming offered me, I would have signed in a heartbeat.

But back to my point, It's easy to see why Wyoming athletics have fallen so far. I'm not saying we are going to be Florida but we should at least try to emulate the success of other schools. It all starts with the proper mindeset. Its like me going into a kick a field goal and "hoping" I make it. I go in there knowing I'm going to split the uprights. Frankly the mindset of our ahtletic dept and many fans is downright crap. One thing I give CDC credit for is that he operates our football dept like it's a big time program but he is only one man. Maybe I am jaded because I grew up going to SEC games. But our lack of effort from our athletic dept is just sad. I used to speak regularly with our director of football operations and even he got fed up with the lack of effort from our AD and fans that he left us for Arkansas St. LET ME REPEAT THAT: Arkansas st.

Furthermore it's even the little things I notice like UW rarely having cheerleaders at away games and our marching band only attends 1 away game. Again maybe I'm jaded because I grew up attending SEC games. I guess trying to instill that culture with our fans and ahtletic dept is a losing battle and it's sure as hell frustrating.

I agree with most of what you say CornPoke, but the apathy goes much higher than our Athletic Dept. The UW Board of Trustees are fans on game day, but not when it's time to build up our Athletic Dept. to the level of being consistently competitive in our conference. The same is true of our state legislators and governor.

 

[BackHarlowRoad]

It costs money to send cheerleaders and a band to away games. You don't build SEC standard fandome on well wishes.

Write a big fatty old check for the cheer team's hotel and food and I bet they'll be there. It's only a few grand per game, no big deal.

 

[Cornpoke]

Cornpoke.. out of curiousity, WTF happened that you didn't kick for Kentucky?

It's not really something I want to make public on a message board but it was just some dumb senior year summer trouble I got into and paid the consequences for.

 

[Cornpoke]

It costs money to send cheerleaders and a band to away games. You don't build SEC standard fandome on well wishes.

Write a big fatty old check for the cheer team's hotel and food and I bet they'll be there. It's only a few grand per game, no big deal.

I didn't realize our athletic dept was in such dire straights. Most MWC teams can at least afford to bring cheerleaders to away games I have noticed. For whatever reason we are not able to do so.

 

[Wyokie]

Speaking of the SEC, as an historian I'm absolutely convinced beyond any doubt....the SEC is the South's revenge for losing the Civil War (1861-1865).

 

[SLCPoke]

Speaking of the SEC, as an historian I'm absolutely convinced beyond any doubt....the SEC is the South's revenge for losing the Civil War (1861-1865).

hahaha.....+1000

 

[Cornpoke]

Speaking of the SEC, as an historian I'm absolutely convinced beyond any doubt....the SEC is the South's revenge for losing the Civil War (1861-1865).

Down south it is not called the Civil War. It is called "the war of northern aggression." Get it right!

 

[WYCowboy]

Speaking of the SEC, as an historian I'm absolutely convinced beyond any doubt....the SEC is the South's revenge for losing the Civil War (1861-1865).

Down south it is not called the Civil War. It is called "the war of northern aggression." Get it right!

This is OT, but if you have any interest in the Civil War (War of Northern Aggression), look up Knights of the Golden Circle. This organization which included Jesse James, intended that this war not end.

 

[Wyokie]

Speaking of the SEC, as an historian I'm absolutely convinced beyond any doubt....the SEC is the South's revenge for losing the Civil War (1861-1865).

Down south it is not called the Civil War. It is called "the war of northern aggression." Get it right!

:roll: They started it.....at Fort Sumter. :winky:

 

[Wyokie]

Speaking of the SEC, as an historian I'm absolutely convinced beyond any doubt....the SEC is the South's revenge for losing the Civil War (1861-1865).

Down south it is not called the Civil War. It is called "the war of northern aggression." Get it right!

This is OT, but if you have any interest in the Civil War (War of Northern Aggression), look up Knights of the Golden Circle. This organization which included Jesse James, intended that this war not end.

In a way.....it hasn't. Sadly.

 

[fromolwyoming]

Speaking of the SEC, as an historian I'm absolutely convinced beyond any doubt....the SEC is the South's revenge for losing the Civil War (1861-1865).

Down south it is not called the Civil War. It is called "the war of northern aggression." Get it right!

I know, tongue in cheek, but when the South attacked Fort Sumter (which began the Civil War), they sealed their own fate.

 

[Fullback41]

If you're ever in South Carolina, touring Fort Sumter is pretty cool. Old Cannons, lines on the flag poles designating how high the fort walls used to stand. Nice little boat ride to the island.

 

[kansasCowboy]

So by the logic in expressed in this thread the only conclusion I can come to is that 1.Wyoming football should never rise above where we are now as a below average team 2.Wyoming football should be an afterthought to in state high school players. 3. and the worst part is.... That our fans are ok with this and encourage players to attend other schools and congratulate them for doing so.

Why even be a fan if you can accept such things?

Point 1. Wyo can be an above avg team. We proved this with our 80's and 90's play and yearly above avg records. Yes, we still had a few losing seasons and even years at or around .500. But no one really complained about who we were. We complained about not receiving bowl games when they were well deserved.

Point 2. By all means no. The vast majority of H.S players from Wyo who have the talent to play at its division are usually courted by Wyo. Several usually choose other schools. CSU, CU, Utah St. It is extremely rare for a Wyo player to receive national attention, and when he does he is receiving attention from Wyo as well. But, I'm all for a player from Wyo to make his choice to what is best available to him. Freddie Capshaw from Rock Springs became a starting punter for The Miami Hurricanes. He had a great career there. Do I fault him for choosing Miami over Wyo? Not at all. It's nothing to cry about. Not every young man in the state of Wyo is a hard core Wyo fan anyway. Besides a lot of top recruits from other states choose schools from out of state. Wyo do we expect Wyo to be any different. We as fans have no say in the matter. Or maybe you do...Do you talk to any of these young men and try to convince them to stay in state?

 

[The Virginian]

Had I been good enough to play college football I'd have gone to Wyoming in a heart beat because I grew up bleeding brown and gold. About the only school other than Wyoming I would have considered is Notre Dame, and only because I spent most of my school years in a Catholic school, so I was thoroughly brainwashed.

 

[WYCowboy]

Had I been good enough to play college football I'd have gone to Wyoming in a heart beat because I grew up bleeding brown and gold. About the only school other than Wyoming I would have considered is Notre Dame, and only because I spent most of my school years in a Catholic school, so I was thoroughly brainwashed.

So that's what happened to you. :rofl:

One of my best friends while we were growing up went to a Catholic school. He used to ask me to write excuse notes for him to get out of school. One time, the principle called his Mom to check up on one of those notes and the jig was up.