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Sportszone saying absolutely noway...

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7220Fan

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The other board I saw is saying that on Sportszone that there is absolutely no way that Gillespie will get the job at UW. There were a couple of comments after that where it was said Shyatt was probable or even a couple people said that Burman very well might be looking at a "huh?" hire or a "WTF" hire.

I know this is all speculation but from what I have read all over the place, I think I am safe in saying that most everybody would like to see Gillespie hired. "Do what it takes and get him hired." I would agree with this.

Now, I guess that I am in the minority when it comes to Shyatt. Yep, he left to go to "his" school after 1 year and did alright when he was here but I still have a problem with it. I guess I hold grudges more than most and if you leave my school to go to your's and it doesn't work out.... I don't want you back at mine. I hate that we would be his "fall-back" plan even after this many years. Some might like him but I don't.

Now to Burman. Tom, if you are reading this and I doubt you are, your job absolutely is riding on your hire. Your hire ABSOLUTELY has to do 2 things:

1). Even after Tom fired Schroyer and the kids have obviously increased their effort level on the court, the #9 team in the nation came into the AA and the "reported" attendance was only 4,518. This tells me that the Wyoming people still are very upset and your hire HAS TO GET EXCITEMENT BACK! Hiring an asst from some other school or a no-name will not bring that immediate excitement and this WILL cost you your job in my opinion. You have to get butts in the seats of the AA so you better make a splash!!!

2). You have absolutely no room for error and saying that this team will be pretty tough in the next 3 or 4 years will not fly! You have to bring in a coach that is going to WIN NOW. No exceptions. Alot of pressure?? Yep! But none the less, mandatory.

These are just a few of my thoughts, I might be wrong but I think the pressure is on Burman.
 
Amen to all of the the thoughts above. I don't think Burman survives a "who the F is that hire".
 
7220Fan said:
the #9 team in the nation came into the AA and the "reported" attendance was only 4,518
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Glad you quoted "reported", because there's no way there were that many people there. I went to the game, and got depressed before tip off remembering the packed houses of the Bailey/Davis days :x
 
7220Fan said:
The other board I saw is saying that on Sportszone that there is absolutely no way that Gillespie will get the job at UW. There were a couple of comments after that where it was said Shyatt was probable or even a couple people said that Burman very well might be looking at a "huh?" hire or a "WTF" hire.

I know this is all speculation but from what I have read all over the place, I think I am safe in saying that most everybody would like to see Gillespie hired. "Do what it takes and get him hired." I would agree with this.

Now, I guess that I am in the minority when it comes to Shyatt. Yep, he left to go to "his" school after 1 year and did alright when he was here but I still have a problem with it. I guess I hold grudges more than most and if you leave my school to go to your's and it doesn't work out.... I don't want you back at mine. I hate that we would be his "fall-back" plan even after this many years. Some might like him but I don't.

Now to Burman. Tom, if you are reading this and I doubt you are, your job absolutely is riding on your hire. Your hire ABSOLUTELY has to do 2 things:

1). Even after Tom fired Schroyer and the kids have obviously increased their effort level on the court, the #9 team in the nation came into the AA and the "reported" attendance was only 4,518. This tells me that the Wyoming people still are very upset and your hire HAS TO GET EXCITEMENT BACK! Hiring an asst from some other school or a no-name will not bring that immediate excitement and this WILL cost you your job in my opinion. You have to get butts in the seats of the AA so you better make a splash!!!

2). You have absolutely no room for error and saying that this team will be pretty tough in the next 3 or 4 years will not fly! You have to bring in a coach that is going to WIN NOW. No exceptions. Alot of pressure?? Yep! But none the less, mandatory.

These are just a few of my thoughts, I might be wrong but I think the pressure is on Burman.
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This is the absolute truth and I agree with you and SLCPoke. The people of Wyoming are not going to stand for their one and only state university listed at the bottom of the standings any more. This will reach all the way to the top and even beyond the university.
 
Are they saying Gillepsie has no chance of being hired from our end or is it simply that he is not interested? That's kind of important right now. If were Burman, I would be blowing up his phone. He is a big name hire that could get some real excitement in the program again and hopefully be able to turn the Cowboys around sooner than later.
 
Cornpoke, they didn't say on whose end that it wasn't gonna happen on... just that it definetely was not going to happen. I have a real bad feeling about this. I don't think anybody around here can take anymore losing!!!
 
Well, if we can't get Gillespie, then I would go for Shyatt. We need him more than he needs us. Unless there is another head coach or former head coach who could step in that I don't know about, I think Shyatt could step in and turn us around right away. I know he's 60, but in this day and age, that's still a relatively young man. I'm sure his energy level is up to the task. Fisher is still going strong and he must be nearly 70. I don't think Burman could go wrong by hiring Shyatt.
 
Cornpoke said:
Are they saying Gillepsie has no chance of being hired from our end or is it simply that he is not interested? That's kind of important right now. If were Burman, I would be blowing up his phone. He is a big name hire that could get some real excitement in the program again and hopefully be able to turn the Cowboys around sooner than later.
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Rumor is that it is Burman or the powers above him that are refusing to consider Gillespie. Appears that Gillespie has campaigned for the job but UW does not have reciprocal interest. Why would we pass up on a homerun hire?! WTF Tom?
 
TwoTone said:
wtf is Burman has shown in the past that he is a goddamn moron :tickedoff:
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JMHO here but Burman needs to be fired. A trained chimp could do a better job than him.
 
Everyone is on this massive Gillispie or Shyatt movement. I really think that a lot of other coaches that have been mentioned are good quality, if not better coaches than Shyatt or Gill.
What makes everyone so high on these two?
Remember that Gill started at Utep with a horrible season, Texas A&M and Kentucky were already built up for success. Wyoming sounds like it would be another Utep for Gill. A losing season and then more than likely a semi decent 18 to 20 win season and he's looking for something better.
Shyatt, well, his ONLY good season as head coach was his one year at Wyoming. He severely underachieved at Clemson. So what makes anyone think that he is capable of instant success here again?
Dunlap is a great choice, and i think that he's better than Shyatt or Gill. So are some other coaches out there that we are apparently going after.
 
kansasCowboy said:
Everyone is on this massive Gillispie or Shyatt movement. I really think that a lot of other coaches that have been mentioned are good quality, if not better coaches than Shyatt or Gill.
What makes everyone so high on these two?
Remember that Gill started at Utep with a horrible season, Texas A&M and Kentucky were already built up for success. Wyoming sounds like it would be another Utep for Gill. A losing season and then more than likely a semi decent 18 to 20 win season and he's looking for something better.
Shyatt, well, his ONLY good season as head coach was his one year at Wyoming. He severely underachieved at Clemson. So what makes anyone think that he is capable of instant success here again?
Dunlap is a great choice, and i think that he's better than Shyatt or Gill. So are some other coaches out there that we are apparently going after.
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That is my opinion as well KC. I want a very good coach - not just someone whose name is known.
 
kansasCowboy said:
Everyone is on this massive Gillispie or Shyatt movement. I really think that a lot of other coaches that have been mentioned are good quality, if not better coaches than Shyatt or Gill.
What makes everyone so high on these two?
Remember that Gill started at Utep with a horrible season, Texas A&M and Kentucky were already built up for success. Wyoming sounds like it would be another Utep for Gill. A losing season and then more than likely a semi decent 18 to 20 win season and he's looking for something better.
Shyatt, well, his ONLY good season as head coach was his one year at Wyoming. He severely underachieved at Clemson. So what makes anyone think that he is capable of instant success here again?
Dunlap is a great choice, and i think that he's better than Shyatt or Gill. So are some other coaches out there that we are apparently going after.
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I agree with you for the most part. I think there are certainly plenty of other talented coaches out there (I am a big proponent of Mike Dunlap. I sure hope he ends up being the choice) and that people have been far too fixated on BCG and Shyatt.

The only point I would make is that BCG's accomplishments are far more impressive than you make them out to be. You mention that TAMU was already built up for success? Reality couldn't have been further from the truth. In Watkins' last season the Aggies were 0-16 in Big 12 play (7-21 overall). In BCG's first season they were 8-8 in Big 12 play (21-10 overall). His 2nd year they were 10-6, 22-9 and advanced to the 2nd round of the NCAA tournament. By his 3rd year they were 13-3, 27-7 and in the Sweet 16. To go from 0-16 in conference to 13-3 and Sweet 16 in 3 years is phenomenal. His UTEP accomplishment might have been even more impressive. Rabideux left a Layer-esque mess behind, but by BCG's 2nd year they were 24-8 and in the NCAA tournament.

I am not saying that there aren't plenty of other coaches that could have success here or that might be a better fit, but BCG's resume is incredibly impressive.
 
I am in the minority also as I don't want Shyatt back in Laramie either. Just seems to me that people think that it will have the same flare it did years ago and I just don't see it happening!!!
 
Just say no to Shyatt. I just can't see why anyone would want him back at this point in his career. Going back in time is not always a good idea.

I get that Burman screwed up the schroyer hire. but by all accounts the interviews haven't happened yet and no candidate is signed. Seems we are jumping the gun assuming the worst here and saying another mistake has been made.

Burman has a boss as well. Remember he follows orders on some of this.
 
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