JimmyDimes
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We don't know the entire story.....and this is a business. I wish Will the best, but Bohl has to do what he has to do to build a winning program.LanderPoke said:
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ragtimejoe1
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MrTitleist said:
It does need an overhaul. Not only the things you state, but even if a kid is kept on scholarship (say after an injury), they are set up for failure (sometimes). I think fairly frequently, academic exemptions are given for student athletes. I also think the athletic program supports them academically (some institutions take this way to far, obviously). When you take a young kid who didn't receive sufficient preparation or perhaps shouldn't be at a University to begin with and then force him or her to swim on their own academically (i.e. get hurt, sustain a scholarship, but lose athletic department help for academics), it is not going to end well.
Especially in revenue sports, we've abandoned helping these kids unless they can do something to help the University. On some occasions, they end up worse off from playing at the college level. At the same time, billions are generated off of their work and performance. The system has been bastardized or probably a better word, professionalized.
The Virginian
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Division I football is a serious business and there are many reasons an athlete doesn't work out. Here's a pretty comprehensive list of the reasons that athletes don't make it in major college sports. Actually, if you make it you are very special.
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ItSucksToBeACSURam
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What?!?! You mean they have to make their way just like every other student who ever went to college before and after them!?!?!? Say it isn't so! It is a privilege to play college sports. I was looked at to play college baseball before I blew out my shoulder. When that door closed you know what I did? I went and found a different avenue to go to college.ragtimejoe1 said:
ragtimejoe1
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ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
How many academic scholarships do you know that were offered and then rescinded because they found someone better? How many academic scholarships do you know of that were rescinded because a new Freshmen is better? How many academic scholarships are pulled if you suffer a catastrophic injury that prevents you from performing your academic duties that semester? How much money do "academic students" make a University? How many academic scholarship students are limited from getting jobs, using their likeness to make money, or whatever?
Get a freaking grip, man. These kids make the University systems billions of dollars. The system then turns around and prevents these kids from profiting in any capacity from their success. Then, scholarships are offered and can be rescinded at any time. Get a kid in, bang him up, maybe cripple him for life and then kick him to the curb. Offer a kid a schollie, he verbals and quits the recruiting process; pull the schollie at the last minute and the kid is screwed.
It needs an overhaul.
ItSucksToBeACSURam
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Read this damn forum! It happens every year at every school. Its not like Bohl created a new mode of evil, he just followed suit and fell in line with the landscape of college football.ragtimejoe1 said:
I am not saying they don't make the system billions. But thats what the sign up for. Until the system is changed, they're just bitching about a choice THEY made. No one makes a player sign the dotted line to play college sports. THEY choose to. They also choose to accept every perk, benefit or NEGATIVE associated with that choice. Go cry on someone else's shoulder.
And frankly I did have a potential scholly pulled when I blew out my shoulder my senior summer of high school. I know all to well that this is a "what can you do for me now" world and I wasnt butt hurt about it or whine about coaches and schools treating me unfairly. I figured out my next move and moved on.
ragtimejoe1
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ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
I suggest you take a little of your own advice. Since you seem to be a bit behind the conversation or have a reading comprehension issue, we were talking about the SYSTEM not WYO, FFS.
ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
Yeah, that is exactly the same as someone getting a scholarship, getting hurt performing the duties of that scholarship, and then having said scholarship pulled. Or, maybe it is the same as a schollie being pulled days before signing day, FFS. :roll:
ItSucksToBeACSURam
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Yikes. Ok here we go. Follow along.ragtimejoe1 said:
This thread started as an attack on Bohl and the University as they treat players unfair. This is utter horseshit. As has also been alluded, it happens everywhere, its not Bohl growing horns and preying on poor young student athletes. It was may advice, so rest assured I have been following this thread.
And yes. It is the same. But see how instead of bitching and whining and blaming everyone else when I lost my opportunity to play college baseball, I figured out a different way to go to school. It was no ones fault, my coaches didn't "OUT" me when I could not longer play the game just as the coaches at the schools I was talking to didn't treat me unfair by not extending the scholly. Things happen.
ragtimejoe1
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So you never had an offer but it is the same. :rofl: Yeah, that makes sense.
The system needs work.
The system needs work.
kansasCowboy
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ragtimejoe1 said:
Ragtime, how is it you argue and become the brunt of all conversations with literally everyone on this forum? I don't know one person on here you haven't started shit with?
All you do is make yourself look like an "All knowing Ass"! You can never discuss, only argue and try to one up everyone even when it's clear that you don't have a damn clue.
Sorry. I had to break on this, because I told you before, I give up on you.
I agree 100% that the system needs an overhaul, for many of the reasons stated. It can start by making a more level playing field for the athletes. And please, all of you "real world" people, this isn't the real world. In the real world it's rare that high school students are signing binding contracts. Particularly ones that only bind them and not the other side. If it's okay to "cut" a player, fine, but let them go out and find a new school/team. Not go down a level, sit a year, can't go to a conference opponent, request permission to speak to other schools, etc. Guarantee them all 4 years, and fair enough that it comes with stipulations. But year to year is bullshit with all of the stipulations. And walk-ons should simply be free agents. If they get nothing from the university, why should they have to follow the same rules?ragtimejoe1 said:
ragtimejoe1
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kansasCowboy said:
I doubt you care to back up your accusation; you usually just throw out a bunch of crap and then crawl away when called on it. FCS the same as half of FBS :rofl:
Also true to form, you resort to personal attacks rather than debate the topic...very womanish. Of course, with your track record, I would probably avoid debate, too.
kansasCowboy
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ragtimejoe1 said:
You mean like your putting words in people's mouths like you've done with me or JimmyD. But whatever.
ragtimejoe1
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So you won't back up your accusation? Figures.
p.s. you should read the whole story regarding jimmy. Of course, that is also against your m.o.
ragtimejoe1
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laxwyo said:
Yes, for not meeting well defined criteria not for injury or better options.