Solution to big man depth next year.

[Cowboy Junky]

I know it sounds crazy, but it is the perfect solution to our problem with depth in the post.

1. A graduate transfer doesn't have to sit out a year.
2. He could play next year with the extra scholarship we'll have.
3. He wants out of his current situation.

Alex Kirk. Come on down. I know it would piss off UNM fans to no end, but he is the perfect fit for Wyoming right now. He's already familiar with the conference. He could play next season. He's friends with Larry Nance.

Is there a rule against people transferring to members of the same conference after graduating, because if not, we should go get Alex Kirk.

 

[Wyolie Coyote]

I know it sounds crazy, but it is the perfect solution to our problem with depth in the post.

1. A graduate transfer doesn't have to sit out a year.
2. He could play next year with the extra scholarship we'll have.
3. He wants out of his current situation.

Alex Kirk. Come on down. I know it would piss off UNM fans to no end, but he is the perfect fit for Wyoming right now. He's already familiar with the conference. He could play next season. He's friends with Larry Nance.

Is there a rule against people transferring to members of the same conference after graduating, because if not, we should go get Alex Kirk.

Pretty sure you can't do a graduate transfer within the same conference.

 

[Bryoming]

I know it sounds crazy, but it is the perfect solution to our problem with depth in the post.

1. A graduate transfer doesn't have to sit out a year.
2. He could play next year with the extra scholarship we'll have.
3. He wants out of his current situation.

Alex Kirk. Come on down. I know it would piss off UNM fans to no end, but he is the perfect fit for Wyoming right now. He's already familiar with the conference. He could play next season. He's friends with Larry Nance.

Is there a rule against people transferring to members of the same conference after graduating, because if not, we should go get Alex Kirk.

Pretty sure you can't do a graduate transfer within the same conference.

There are no rules against transferring in conference. It's more of a gentlemen's agreement than a rule, but there are kids that break it every year.

 

[fromolwyoming]

I don't see why he would want to come here for his last year. I don't think he really has anything against us, but I don't think he would come here.

 

[TSpoke]

Yeah I think I missed something. Why is he looking to leave NM. I never heard anything about him being unhappy.

 

[OrediggerPoke]

Well another solution would be to go out of conference but stay in the State of New Mexico and convince New Mexico State's really big men to transfer to Wyoming!

 

[WyoExpat]

The main rule that I know of is that the new school (Wyoming) must have an available degree program that is not available at the player's current school. For example, does UNM have a petroleum engineering program?

 

[Cowboy Junky]

Yeah, I don't know if Kirk would come to Wyoming, but that's what we need with the extra scholarship we have in hand. We need someone that can play and contribute next year, not two years from now.

 

[NowherePoke]

Yeah, I don't know if Kirk would come to Wyoming, but that's what we need with the extra scholarship we have in hand. We need someone that can play and contribute next year, not two years from now.

Even if UNM was in another conference, Kirk wouldn't come to Wyoming. UNM has built a great program.

In more technical terms, I don't believe it is possible. The transfer rule in the MWC is that a player has to sit out one additional year, so a regular transfer would sit out two years. I don't honestly know how that impacts graduate transfers, but I believe it is still in place meaning a graduate transfer would sit one year which would exhaust their eligibility. This fundamentally prevents this scenario from happening.

Anyway, getting into more realistic scenarios, would a 5th big man transfer be a nice fit? Absolutely, but those guys are among the most desired recruits in the country. Very small chance at landing anyone decent that route although it if happened it would be great.

A more likely scenario could be to sign a JC big in the spring that we could pair with Cooke in the frontcourt next year and then as a senior they would play alongside Nance. If we signed the right JC big that Nance/JC big combo in 15-16 might be pretty solid.

If things work out and Nance can play next year, then at least we would have a little more depth in the frontcourt.

One way or the other, I think we need to add a frontcourt player that can play next year due to the uncertainty surround Nance's injury timeline.

 

[Cowboy Junky]

Yeah, I don't know if Kirk would come to Wyoming, but that's what we need with the extra scholarship we have in hand. We need someone that can play and contribute next year, not two years from now.

Even if UNM was in another conference, Kirk wouldn't come to Wyoming. UNM has built a great program.

In more technical terms, I don't believe it is possible. The transfer rule in the MWC is that a player has to sit out one additional year, so a regular transfer would sit out two years. I don't honestly know how that impacts graduate transfers, but I believe it is still in place meaning a graduate transfer would sit one year which would exhaust their eligibility. This fundamentally prevents this scenario from happening.

Anyway, getting into more realistic scenarios, would a 5th big man transfer be a nice fit? Absolutely, but those guys are among the most desired recruits in the country. Very small chance at landing anyone decent that route although it if happened it would be great.

A more likely scenario could be to sign a JC big in the spring that we could pair with Cooke in the frontcourt next year and then as a senior they would play alongside Nance. If we signed the right JC big that Nance/JC big combo in 15-16 might be pretty solid.

If things work out and Nance can play next year, then at least we would have a little more depth in the frontcourt.

One way or the other, I think we need to add a frontcourt player that can play next year due to the uncertainty surround Nance's injury timeline.

The UNM fans think Kirk is leaving. They also believe that UNM isn't going to be very good next year. I don't know why Kirk would think about leaving, but apparently there are a lot of people that think he is.

I doubt we could get him. UCLA may be where he wants to go.

I don't even know if I would want to get him. I respect UNM and taking Kirk as a transfer would be kind of a slimy thing to do: a la Heath Schroyer.

That's what we need though. We need a big man that can play next year. I'm sure the coaches are looking for one as we speak.

 

[Bryoming]

In more technical terms, I don't believe it is possible. The transfer rule in the MWC is that a player has to sit out one additional year, so a regular transfer would sit out two years. I don't honestly know how that impacts graduate transfers, but I believe it is still in place meaning a graduate transfer would sit one year which would exhaust their eligibility. This fundamentally prevents this scenario from happening.

This assertion is incorrect. A player who completes their degree and wishes to get a post-graduate degree that their current university does not offer may transfer without penalty to another Division I university that does offer that program. It's commonly referred to as the "graduate transfer exception" rule. It's how we got Jerron Granberry this past season. Another high profile example was Russell Wilson transferring from North Carolina State to Wisconsin without sitting out a season.

The kicker here is you have to have eligibility left. For example, if you graduate in four years, but took a redshirt year along the way you still have one year left to play.

 

[NowherePoke]

In more technical terms, I don't believe it is possible. The transfer rule in the MWC is that a player has to sit out one additional year, so a regular transfer would sit out two years. I don't honestly know how that impacts graduate transfers, but I believe it is still in place meaning a graduate transfer would sit one year which would exhaust their eligibility. This fundamentally prevents this scenario from happening.

This assertion is incorrect. A player who completes their degree and wishes to get a post-graduate degree that their current university does not offer may transfer without penalty to another Division I university that does offer that program. It's commonly referred to as the "graduate transfer exception" rule. It's how we got Jerron Granberry this past season. Another high profile example was Russell Wilson transferring from North Carolina State to Wisconsin without sitting out a season.

The kicker here is you have to have eligibility left. For example, if you graduate in four years, but took a redshirt year along the way you still have one year left to play.

Pretty sure that North Florida is not in the MWC. I am well aware of the graduate transfer exemption (Kevin Kruger, Josh Davis, etc. are other MWC examples), but our discussion was in relation to transfers within the MWC. The MWC does not specifically address graduate transfers in the bylaws but it does have a section (3.6 Intra-Conference Transfer) that addresses what is essentially a penalty for transferring within the conference. One of those is that the student-athlete must forfeit one season of competition (3.6-b). For most graduate transfers that item alone would exhaust their eligibility/clock. There are some exceptions (Etherington at Indiana would be an example as he has truly graduated in only 3 years so he has two more years left of his 5/4, but I can't think of any examples in the MWC), but they are pretty rare.

The only exception that the MWC notes in the bylaws is for when a school discontinues the sport.


I understand that Kirk will likely transfer but it won't be within the MWC. The MWC, like many mid to high major conferences, has rules in place to prevent Intra-Conference transfers. Some of the other penalties include that the student-athlete must complete at least one year in academic residence at the new institution prior to competing and cannot received athletic-related financial aid during that year (can't be on scholarship IOW).

 

[Adv8RU12]

I understand from this forum that Sellers is graduating this year. Does that mean he could transfer to Northeastern Montana State Normal Teachers College and be a starter? Please. Pretty Please.