Solution for Wyoming - Rivalry Week Game

[thirtyseven]

A couple of things to add:

We couldn't even play Utah at the end of the year if both schools wanted to and they don't. Pac12 scheduling only allows for non-conference games the first three weeks of the year unless you are USC & Notre Dame. That is why BYU and Utah are playing in Sept again.

USU and CSU I think will be our natural rivals. As someone pointed out already USU is listed in NCAA Football as a rival but they will probably screw that up and take it out of the game this year.... "If its in the game its out of our game"

I am not sure why the conference is not trying to schedule UW & CSU the end of the season can anyone elaborate on that? It would make sense to schedule rivalries during the same week I think.

UW & CSU
AF & BSU
FSU & SJSU
Hawaii & SDSU
USU & UNM
UNR & UNLV

or

UW & USU
AF & CSU
BSU & Hawaii
FSU & SJSU
UNM & SDSU
UNR & UNLV

Then if they don't have one already establish a traveling trophy and call that week in the schedule done every year.

 

[BeaverPoke]

I am not sure why the conference is not trying to schedule UW & CSU the end of the season can anyone elaborate on that? It would make sense to schedule rivalries during the same week I think.

Have you read what anyone else has been saying?
What good does having 2 crap teams playing right after Thanksgiving with no students and minimum amount of fans do for the rivalry?

It's dumb to have the Border War at the end of the season, and always will be unless both schools are competing for the MWC Championship like BYU and Utah were for so many years.

I would rather watch the Border War when the season is still alive, wouldn't you?
Playing it when the weather is warm, and CSU and Wyo still have hopes of getting into a bowl game, and having 25-30K people there is much more valuable to the conference than having 2, 3-8 teams play at the end when it is freezing cold and getting 15K there.

 

[BackHarlowRoad]

Have you read what anyone else has been saying?
What good does having 2 crap teams playing right after Thanksgiving with no students and minimum amount of fans do for the rivalry?

It's dumb to have the Border War at the end of the season, and always will be unless both schools are competing for the MWC Championship like BYU and Utah were for so many years.

I would rather watch the Border War when the season is still alive, wouldn't you?
Playing it when the weather is warm, and CSU and Wyo still have hopes of getting into a bowl game, and having 25-30K people there is much more valuable to the conference than having 2, 3-8 teams play at the end when it is freezing cold and getting 15K there.

I thought most of us were expecting a good season this year, including you. Now we're gonna be 3-8? I can't keep up.

 

[BeaverPoke]

Have you read what anyone else has been saying?
What good does having 2 crap teams playing right after Thanksgiving with no students and minimum amount of fans do for the rivalry?

It's dumb to have the Border War at the end of the season, and always will be unless both schools are competing for the MWC Championship like BYU and Utah were for so many years.

I would rather watch the Border War when the season is still alive, wouldn't you?
Playing it when the weather is warm, and CSU and Wyo still have hopes of getting into a bowl game, and having 25-30K people there is much more valuable to the conference than having 2, 3-8 teams play at the end when it is freezing cold and getting 15K there.

I thought most of us were expecting a good season this year, including you. Now we're gonna be 3-8? I can't keep up.

Here we go... :roll:
Referring to the past season...here I'll paint it out for anyone that got confused...

2012 Border War. 2-6 CSU @ 1-7 WYO. Both teams ineligible for bowl game.
2011 Border War. 7-4 WYO @ 3-8 CSU. Wyo bowl eligible. CSU ineligible.
2010 Border War. 3-8 CSU @ 2-9 WYO. Both teams ineligible for bowl game.
2009 Border War. 5-6 WYO @ 3-8 CSU. Wyo fighting for bowl eligibility, CSU ineligible.
2008 Border War. 5-6 CSU @ 4-7 WYO. CSU fighting for bowl eligibility, WYO ineligible.
2007 Border War. 5-6 WYO @ 2-9 CSU. Wyo fighting for bowl eligibility, CSU ineligible.
2006 Border War. 4-2 CSU @ 3-4 WYO. Both teams still have hopes because the season in only 6-7 games in.

My point is that in the past, both teams have sucked and the season is dead when the Border War is played.

And back to the question why the MWC doesn't want the Border War at the end of the season.
What does having 2 shit teams playing at the end of the season bring to the conference?
Nothing at all.
The Border War is only special between Wyo and CSU. And until they are both competing for the MWC like BYU and Utah were, it is a pointless game for the MWC.
So again, what does having 2 teams who are 3-8 or 2-9 or whatever bring to the plate?

 

[BeaverPoke]

And if that still doesn't clear it up no I do not think that Wyo is going 3-8.

 

[thirtyseven]

My point is that in the past, both teams have sucked and the season is dead when the Border War is played.

The Border War is only special between Wyo and CSU. And until they are both competing for the MWC like BYU and Utah were, it is a pointless game for the MWC.

So again, what does having 2 teams who are 3-8 or 2-9 or whatever bring to the plate?

If we both suck it doesn't matter when the game is played. What is the difference between two 1-5 or 2-4 teams and 3-8 and 2-9? Nothing. If the teams suck it doesn't matter when the game is played so why not have some consistency and put the game with all the other major rivalry games? Also if you have the game the same week every year people can plan ahead for it.

I would rather have it the final game of the season (which by the way is not always the weekend of thanksgiving) but even if you knew it was the same week every year I think it adds to the rivalry. Example (Tennessee and Alabama always play the thrid Saturday in October.)

 

[TSpoke]

When it was the last weekend of the year it was ussually on thanksgiving weekend(not always but it has been that way the majority of the time) that leads to much smaller crowds. Especially for students who all go home. If you want the students to care about the rivalry we need to have it when more of them will be in town. Last year (or maybe the year before) both UW and CSU asked to not have the game on rivalry week to try to increase attendance. Not sure if they have a set saturday for the game but I would be that but having it earlier in the year makes the most sense.

 

[OrediggerPoke]

Screw scheduling BYU! Under no circumstance should we make the Indy life easier for them. If they want to play us during conference season, they can join the MWC. In the new system and if the MWC teams stay strong, BYU's hand is going to be forced. Better yet would be to watch BYU fade to complete irrelevance.

 

[zappinpoke]

Screw scheduling BYU! Under no circumstance should we make the Indy life easier for them. If they want to play us during conference season, they can join the MWC. In the new system and if the MWC teams stay strong, BYU's hand is going to be forced. Better yet would be to watch BYU fade to complete irrelevance.

DING,DING,DING...we have a winner. They need late season games,we don't. byu!

 

[Wyovanian]

'Peachy, you know I've always got your back- no different here. It's actually a pretty good idea. Not sure I'd go, but that's got more to do with my absolute detestation of BYU* and the institution behind it. My own personal feelings aside, it would be a big draw.

 

[WYCowboy]

I completely agree with what the last three of you said. I would be happy if we never had anything to do with bywho ever again. Provo is nothing but a seething cesspool.