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OrediggerPoke

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SJSU is a 12 point favorite. Broadcast not even on a television channel…mountain west network stream.


Is this worse than the Koenning years? Hard to argue it’s not.
 
I just have no hope. The offense is so inept I know we have no chance of winning on the road. There’s not even the remote chance of seeing more competent QB play.
 
Ironically SJSU has a new coach who came from running a rush heavy offense at Navy.

The starting quarterback was a walk-on at Washington State and played in 1 game last year before transferring to SJSU. The knock on him is he is 5’11” which in Bohl land (now Sawville) is considered unacceptable since 6’5” and unable to hit the broad side of a barn with a thrown football is necessary to be heralded as the next 1st round NFL draft pick after entering the 4th year of college football.

The SJSU quarterback hasn’t done anything other than throw 16 TD’s with 4 INT’s for a 146 rating. After listening to the Monday babble session with Sawville it’s very obvious we have a much more talented quarterback. We just have to keep waiting and don’t even think of looking cross eyed in his direction.

Speaking of the babble session with Sawville stating that if he even glances at another quarterback his prized possession will immediately transfer, consider that a former starter at SJSU is now a senior playing WR.

Other than that from the lips of our sacred football leader SJSU is a really good team that can throw the ball downfield. I find it so hard to believe that a run happy coach FIRED by Navy after 15 years can assemble the necessary talent to be highly competitive as a passing team out of the gate. What kind if dipshit AD would lock up a retread run oriented coach for 5 years and spend $1.5 million per year when they could have promoted from the staff for well less than that and not have to rely on transfers like the QB to keep the program afloat?

SJSU and the points
 
PorkerPoke said:
Ironically SJSU has a new coach who came from running a rush heavy offense at Navy.

The starting quarterback was a walk-on at Washington State and played in 1 game last year before transferring to SJSU. The knock on him is he is 5’11” which in Bohl land (now Sawville) is considered unacceptable since 6’5” and unable to hit the broad side of a barn with a thrown football is necessary to be heralded as the next 1st round NFL draft pick after entering the 4th year of college football.

The SJSU quarterback hasn’t done anything other than throw 16 TD’s with 4 INT’s for a 146 rating. After listening to the Monday babble session with Sawville it’s very obvious we have a much more talented quarterback. We just have to keep waiting and don’t even think of looking cross eyed in his direction.

Speaking of the babble session with Sawville stating that if he even glances at another quarterback his prized possession will immediately transfer, consider that a former starter at SJSU is now a senior playing WR.

Other than that from the lips of our sacred football leader SJSU is a really good team that can throw the ball downfield. I find it so hard to believe that a run happy coach FIRED by Navy after 15 years can assemble the necessary talent to be highly competitive as a passing team out of the gate. What kind if dipshit AD would lock up a retread run oriented coach for 5 years and spend $1.5 million per year when they could have promoted from the staff for well less than that and not have to rely on transfers like the QB to keep the program afloat?

SJSU and the points
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WHat i really don't get is UW didn't really save any money with the Sawvell hire. He was making $550k as defensive coordinator. Absolutely nobody else was looking to make him head coach, but UW bumped his salary to $1.1 million immediately with built in increases to $1.25MM after a couple of years. Why couldn't they just pay him $750k for a couple of years to see how it would go? He's still going to take the job because it's an improvement over the $550k he was making. Importantly, they also bumped our AD's salary to $551k because he is making such good decisions. What an absolute joke for the taxpayers and state to be involved with this ridiculousness.
 
Thankfully, the game is not televised. We need to get through this season with as little exposure as possible. As for the game itself, as bad as we've been overall, our real awfulness happens on the road. Every DB in the MW has to be licking his chops in hope of a short out route to the sideline.
 
rocket city poke said:
WHat i really don't get is UW didn't really save any money with the Sawvell hire. He was making $550k as defensive coordinator. Absolutely nobody else was looking to make him head coach, but UW bumped his salary to $1.1 million immediately with built in increases to $1.25MM after a couple of years. Why couldn't they just pay him $750k for a couple of years to see how it would go? He's still going to take the job because it's an improvement over the $550k he was making. Importantly, they also bumped our AD's salary to $551k because he is making such good decisions. What an absolute joke for the taxpayers and state to be involved with this ridiculousness.
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You can’t realistically hire a head coach and pay the head coach an assistant’s salary that would be at the bottom of the MWC in compensation. That would make Wyoming look amateur to the Nth degree and would already suggest that Sawvel is not head coach material merely by the hiring. Where Burman is dead wrong and has set us back years is guaranteeing the money for all the years of the contract and making it nearly impossible to fire and come up with the money. It should have been a 3 year contract with a minimal buyout for an unproven and not in demand head coach. Now we are in a bad spot because of the incompetence.

But it’s very misleading to suggest that taxpayers pay the salary of the football coach. They don’t. The football team generally turns a healthy profit when donations, media and ticket revenues are figured in ( and likely will this year).
 
rocket city poke said:
WHat i really don't get is UW didn't really save any money with the Sawvell hire. He was making $550k as defensive coordinator. Absolutely nobody else was looking to make him head coach, but UW bumped his salary to $1.1 million immediately with built in increases to $1.25MM after a couple of years. Why couldn't they just pay him $750k for a couple of years to see how it would go? He's still going to take the job because it's an improvement over the $550k he was making. Importantly, they also bumped our AD's salary to $551k because he is making such good decisions. What an absolute joke for the taxpayers and state to be involved with this ridiculousness.
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It malpractice. Burman should be FIRED
 
OrediggerPoke said:
You can’t realistically hire a head coach and pay the head coach an assistant’s salary that would be at the bottom of the MWC in compensation. That would make Wyoming look amateur to the Nth degree and would already suggest that Sawvel is not head coach material merely by the hiring. Where Burman is dead wrong and has set us back years is guaranteeing the money for all the years of the contract and making it nearly impossible to fire and come up with the money. It should have been a 3 year contract with a minimal buyout for an unproven and not in demand head coach. Now we are in a bad spot because of the incompetence.

But it’s very misleading to suggest that taxpayers pay the salary of the football coach. They don’t. The football team generally turns a healthy profit when donations, media and ticket revenues are figured in ( and likely will this year).
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What data source do you have that differentiates donor contributions by sport?

Football has a budget of over 14 mill and for title ix, lots of scholarships have to be offered which is an indirect cost.

42% of the budget comes from taxpayers and student fees. About 11 mill comes from ticket sales and conference distribution. Where is the data that has the breakdown of each revenue source by sport?
 
ragtimejoe1 said:
What data source do you have that differentiates donor contributions by sport?

Football has a budget of over 14 mill and for title ix, lots of scholarships have to be offered which is an indirect cost.

42% of the budget comes from taxpayers and student fees. About 11 mill comes from ticket sales and conference distribution. Where is the data that has the breakdown of each revenue source by sport?
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OrediggerPoke said:
You can’t realistically hire a head coach and pay the head coach an assistant’s salary that would be at the bottom of the MWC in compensation. That would make Wyoming look amateur to the Nth degree and would already suggest that Sawvel is not head coach material merely by the hiring. Where Burman is dead wrong and has set us back years is guaranteeing the money for all the years of the contract and making it nearly impossible to fire and come up with the money. It should have been a 3 year contract with a minimal buyout for an unproven and not in demand head coach. Now we are in a bad spot because of the incompetence.

But it’s very misleading to suggest that taxpayers pay the salary of the football coach. They don’t. The football team generally turns a healthy profit when donations, media and ticket revenues are figured in ( and likely will this year).
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That doesn't even count that $82 million that the legislature gave for the stadium upgrades. Plus the health insurance of the coaches and administrators. The capital expenditures for the facilities and offices, it's all paid for by the state.

Your logic is to not pay what the market actually dictates which is what most of the college administrators who aren't operating in the "real world" always say. If you had a business you would have done what my idea was and just see how the guy performed for a year or two with a pay increase, but nothing too crazy. Again, nobody was offering this guy any sort of dollars similar to what UW gave him. Then when it didn't work out shake his hand and move on. Now we get to get involved with this buyout fiasco again.
 
ragtimejoe1 said:
What data source do you have that differentiates donor contributions by sport?

Football has a budget of over 14 mill and for title ix, lots of scholarships have to be offered which is an indirect cost.

42% of the budget comes from taxpayers and student fees. About 11 mill comes from ticket sales and conference distribution. Where is the data that has the breakdown of each revenue source by sport?
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FFS man. Do you have to be an ass about everything? You can’t simply pull up the public report that clearly shows a breakdown? Do you really believe those CJC dollars are raised because of our women’s tennis team? Come on.

 
OrediggerPoke said:
FFS man. Do you have to be an ass about everything? You can’t simply pull up the public report that clearly shows a breakdown? Do you really believe those CJC dollars are raised because of our women’s tennis team? Come on.

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What? Dare questioning the Burman narrative.

Just so I'm clear every revenue source not specified by sport is assumed to be 90%+ football revenue? I'll wade through the report you posted but I'm guessing it's like several I've read. If the revenue source isn't designated, then it's your assumption it's solely or mostly due to football.

Universities are also notoriously bad at true cost accounting. Does the ipf electric bill get rolled into facilities or charged to football for example? Benefits are mentioned above. Lots of examples.
 
Well I guess I should just be saying I’m excited with all the recruits headed our way, improvement in coaching up skill positions, and improvement in the offensive production. I mean the guys on 1240 are way impressed with the OC and what he’s done, it’s just shocking how they rest of us are not..,
 
And hopefully we saved money by using DC’s sound system instead of buying a new one for practice music, but likely not. Thank goodness the game is not televised, I might be able to focus on more productive things.
 
ragtimejoe1 said:
What? Dare questioning the Burman narrative.

Just so I'm clear every revenue source not specified by sport is assumed to be 90%+ football revenue? I'll wade through the report you posted but I'm guessing it's like several I've read. If the revenue source isn't designated, then it's your assumption it's solely or mostly due to football.

Universities are also notoriously bad at true cost accounting. Does the ipf electric bill get rolled into facilities or charged to football for example? Benefits are mentioned above. Lots of examples.
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I don’t get you. Do you literally argue just to argue? Is there a reason you can’t just read the simple spreadsheet? Is there a reason you seem to make up numbers?

This is literally the accounting from the athletics department that shows a column for “football” generating a $3.112 million surplus for FY2022 without figuring in any donations from ‘non specified’ sources which accounts for another significant chunk. The same spreadsheet includes a “ - “ in the numbers for ‘direct state or other government support.’ Do you believe this ‘ - ‘ means something other than $0???

Come on man. This shit gets old. Your schtick and make believe wears thin.
 
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