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LanderPoke said:
How many players went to any given SEC school based off academics?
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Ah yes...well..if you can't be troubled to be clear... don't be surprised when vague and encompassing claims about *most athletes* are met with some interrogation. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you at least mean football players when you said "most athletes".

Now, when you are talking about SEC level guys who are being recruited...most are obviously trying to get into the NFL....but the meatiest meathead still knows its a long shot and will value a degree. They will, or have people advising them who will, weigh academic reputations of schools as part of their choice of where to play. What about the Wyoming level guys? or marginal P5 guys? The dream is still there but way more of them are leveraging their talent and drive to get the degree. How about the remaining 80% of college football players?

However you slice it, "...the education part is basically irrelevant for most athletes..." is absurd.
 
OrediggerPoke said:
Beginning next year - teams can directly pay players up to about an aggregate of $23 million for football yearly.

I bet Notre Dame pays the max. What do you think the 2nd string safety will get out of that $23 million? Remember, there are only 105 players total to be paid which equals an average of $219,000 per player.
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So, I’m going off $23M. 22 starters and top prospects going to eat a lot up. 44 players on 2 deep. I’m guessing $40k cash for a guy buried on depth chart. Hell, maybe $10k. But NIL still floating around too right? Nothing to reel that in? What the school pays is largely irrelevant if NIL is still Wild West.
 
laxwyo said:
So, I’m going off $23M. 22 starters and top prospects going to eat a lot up. 44 players on 2 deep. I’m guessing $40k cash for a guy buried on depth chart. Hell, maybe $10k. But NIL still floating around too right? Nothing to reel that in? What the school pays is largely irrelevant if NIL is still Wild West.
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Yes - the $23 million is just the cap from direct University payments. Absent congressional anti-trust legislation, NIL is here to stay and fans are free to pay players as much as they want.
 
laxwyo said:
So, I’m going off $23M. 22 starters and top prospects going to eat a lot up. 44 players on 2 deep. I’m guessing $40k cash for a guy buried on depth chart. Hell, maybe $10k. But NIL still floating around too right? Nothing to reel that in? What the school pays is largely irrelevant if NIL is still Wild West.
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I am thinking the same 20-30k for a backup DB
 
LanderPoke said:
I am thinking the same 20-30k for a backup DB
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In school funding for schools meeting the full $23 million or a combination of funding and NIL?

How did you come up with that number? That appears to be pure speculation. The only numbers we actually know are direct school funding is limited to $23 million per sport annually and that football rosters may not exceed 105 players which equates to an average of $219,000 per player in school funding.
 
OrediggerPoke said:
In school funding for schools meeting the full $23 million or a combination of funding and NIL?

How did you come up with that number? That appears to be pure speculation. The only numbers we actually know are direct school funding is limited to $23 million per sport annually and that football rosters may not exceed 105 players which equates to an average of $219,000 per player in school funding.
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Allocate 23 million by position for an entire 105 person football roster. And see where the money falls
 
Bear Claw said:
It is becoming more obvious that the only way Wyoming can stay competitive in most sports is if they drop to FCS level. That pretty much goes for what will be left of the MWC, in general.
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I’d argue the new MWC is pretty close to the FCS level. If Wyoming can’t stay competitive in this conference, it should drop sports or move to the RMAC of Division 2.
 
I’ve never been more black pilled about the state of college athletics for programs like Wyoming. Some kind of 30+team split needs to happen soon. It’ll be sad and disgusting that BYU might end up in that group but they have bankrollers. Could end up with some kind of 3 conference 48 team league or something.
 
laxwyo said:
I’ve never been more black pilled about the state of college athletics for programs like Wyoming. Some kind of 30+team split needs to happen soon. It’ll be sad and disgusting that BYU might end up in that group but they have bankrollers. Could end up with some kind of 3 conference 48 team league or something.
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G5 gets something like 100 or 110 mill from the playoff. If I'm remembering the team payout correctly the top 2 teams could get something like 20 mill (4 mill for each of the first 2 rounds and 6 mill for the semi- and finals.

That's a lot of dough. With how upset Bama is, I'm not so sure the 30+ number might be higher. They could probably run with the top 40 teams and keep all the money which would require them to kick some teams to the curb.

I'm thinking it happens sooner than later, but who knows.
 
ragtimejoe1 said:
G5 gets something like 100 or 110 mill from the playoff. If I'm remembering the team payout correctly the top 2 teams could get something like 20 mill (4 mill for each of the first 2 rounds and 6 mill for the semi- and finals.

That's a lot of dough. With how upset Bama is, I'm not so sure the 30+ number might be higher. They could probably run with the top 40 teams and keep all the money which would require them to kick some teams to the curb.

I'm thinking it happens sooner than later, but who knows.
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The split is likely to happen sooner rather than later but I think it’ll consist of around 60 teams. Most of which will be east of the Mississippi or very close to that region. The SEC and BIG10 will control the split. While other conferences continue to argue that they belong, those conferences have made it clear that they don’t buy it. The proof that some teams do belong is why Oregon, Washington, USC, and UCLA are traveling across the country to be in the mix. Even the original PAC didn’t get the respect it deserved so they had to leave. The new peon pac thinks that they are SO much better than the MW when in reality they’re the exact same caliber as us. Same access to the playoff, same problems with the portal and NIL, and they will never be able to compete with the big 2 in the money category! Sad thing is it could have all been prevented if those in charge had a brain and would leave egos at the door. The model the NFL uses or even pro soccer could be implemented in college football and make the product better but they don’t want to share the pie. And while schools scramble to stay afloat, it could actually bankrupt them and make less sports available at the college level, all in the name of football where less than 3% of athletes move on to the pro level! I hate it, and hope that someone comes to their senses soon!
 
I think the $23 M is for all sports not just FB and only applies if the school has the revenues to share with the athletes. Does anyone have a better handle on what the deal is?
 
TheRealUW said:
The value you are referring to is unrelated to NIL. $23 million is the amount that schools are now allowed to directly pay athletes through revenue sharing. Athletes are still free to be paid additional funds through NIL.

So a school like Texas would potentially have nearly $46 million total.
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Yes, but do you think a fan base is going to be able to fund a school’s NIL payroll as well as private NIL? I do not. They cannibalize each other.

Look above! Most schools are not even close to anywhere needed to pay backup DBs 6 figures lol
 
doreno5 said:
I think the $23 M is for all sports not just FB and only applies if the school has the revenues to share with the athletes. Does anyone have a better handle on what the deal is?
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This is my understanding. I also believe the $23 million cap of school paid dollars is to include the scholarship costs up to $2.5 million.

Regardless, there still is no overall cap because Texas can take the $22 million of NIL collective dollars and add it to the $23 million of university dollars to pay out $45 million a year if it desires.
 
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