Redshirts

[laxwyo]

So, it looks like everybody on the roster has played some, so does that mean no one is redshirting? The WWCC transfer i think is in laramie right now? Would this be considered his redshirt year or would 2013 be his red shirt year?

 

[WyoExpat]

I could be wrong, but for some reason I am thinking that, in basketball, a player cannot play beyond a certain point in a season but can play in games very early in the season.

Does that sound right to anyone else?

 

[NowherePoke]

Yeah, no redshirts this year. I kind of think we should have redshirted Shakir Smith and Tyrone Marshall. Shakir needs to add muscle and Marshall is very raw. They could have benefited from a redshirt year, although I understand the staff didn't really know what they had/needed at the beginning of the season. Ajayi leaving probably pushed Shyatt into playing Marshall instead of redshirting.

Sellers is sitting out this year and will play next year as a RS-So, so 3 years of eligibility to play.

 

[laxwyo]

I could be wrong, but for some reason I am thinking that, in basketball, a player cannot play beyond a certain point in a season but can play in games very early in the season.

Does that sound right to anyone else?

I think that might be for medical redshirts ala Marcus Bailey, but I think if they play a single game, they can't redshirt.

 

[Bryoming]

I could be wrong, but for some reason I am thinking that, in basketball, a player cannot play beyond a certain point in a season but can play in games very early in the season.

Does that sound right to anyone else?

I think that might be for medical redshirts ala Marcus Bailey, but I think if they play a single game, they can't redshirt.

That is how it works in football, but in basketball you can redshirt as long as you haven't played in more than 20% of the team's games.

 

[laxwyo]

I could be wrong, but for some reason I am thinking that, in basketball, a player cannot play beyond a certain point in a season but can play in games very early in the season.

Does that sound right to anyone else?

I think that might be for medical redshirts ala Marcus Bailey, but I think if they play a single game, they can't redshirt.

That is how it works in football, but in basketball you can redshirt as long as you haven't played in more than 20% of the team's games.

Can you think of a single player who played a game and then was redshirted without being hurt? I'm pretty sure the 20% rule applies to medical redshirts. I think it's even the case for medical redshirts in football. If they play 2 games and get hurt, they can get a medical still.

 

[Bryoming]

I could be wrong, but for some reason I am thinking that, in basketball, a player cannot play beyond a certain point in a season but can play in games very early in the season.

Does that sound right to anyone else?

I think that might be for medical redshirts ala Marcus Bailey, but I think if they play a single game, they can't redshirt.

That is how it works in football, but in basketball you can redshirt as long as you haven't played in more than 20% of the team's games.

Can you think of a single player who played a game and then was redshirted without being hurt? I'm pretty sure the 20% rule applies to medical redshirts. I think it's even the case for medical redshirts in football. If they play 2 games and get hurt, they can get a medical still.

That is technically the rule, but to get a medical redshirt the coach merely has to state that a physical limitation is keeping them from practicing. A tight hamstring or cold would be able to get you a medical redshirt. I doubt that Coach Shy would pull that, but it is fairly common in major college basketball.

 

[NowherePoke]

I could be wrong, but for some reason I am thinking that, in basketball, a player cannot play beyond a certain point in a season but can play in games very early in the season.

Does that sound right to anyone else?

I think that might be for medical redshirts ala Marcus Bailey, but I think if they play a single game, they can't redshirt.

That is how it works in football, but in basketball you can redshirt as long as you haven't played in more than 20% of the team's games.

Can you think of a single player who played a game and then was redshirted without being hurt? I'm pretty sure the 20% rule applies to medical redshirts. I think it's even the case for medical redshirts in football. If they play 2 games and get hurt, they can get a medical still.

You are right. It is 20% and has to occur in the first half of the season (not sure if that is by date, or by game). There is documentation required, so the injury needs to be legitimate and "significant", although the latter portion is obviously subject to debate and likely abuse.

There are also "voluntary" redshirts which are what you see more commonly in football and occasionally in hoops. In those cases, where there is no injury, the player loses the redshirt as soon as they enter competition (think of the "pulling" the redshirt situations you hear about in Football).

 

[laxwyo]

I guess my whole point is why some of these youngins are not red shirting. I thought Shakir and Marshall were going to be redshirts for sure. What about the 4 fall signees? Josh Adams looks lights out and real competitor. Austin Haldorson looks pretty dang good too.

So we signed 4 in the fall and we have how many left to sign in the spring? When is the spring signing day for basketball?

 

[Bryoming]

Nance is another player that could have used a redshirt, IMO. He's done a hell of a job this season for us, but he could have used a year to fill out. I agree that Smith and Marshall probably could use one, too. It's unfortunate, but we are really hurting for depth this season, so I can see why no one is.

 

[Adv8RU12]

Can't any of these players redshirt NEXT year?

 

[Bryoming]

Can't any of these players redshirt NEXT year?

Sure can

 

[WestWYOPoke]

Can't any of these players redshirt NEXT year?

Any player can use a "normal" redshirt any year so long as they haven't redshirted a previous season. They could even redshirt their true senior season and come back for a 5th RS senior year. You don't see this often except in wrestling and swimming where the athlete will take a year off to train in an olympic year in the hopes of making the US team (like Cox is doing this year). Also, sometimes in wrestling you will see a junior or senior reshirt year in order to get stronger or they will sit out a year so that a more dominant wrestler in their weight class will graduate giving them a better shot at winning a title (kinda weird but it happens more than you'd think).

 

[laxwyo]

Won't our positioning be worse next year for redshirting? We will have a pile of sophomore and a pile of freshmen. I guess you redshirt one or two that need it the most.