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Pokes vs Lobos

ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
All the bitching and doom and gloom, we were one (1) false start away from winning and ending on a high note. First and goal from the five and we pound hill 4 plays in a row and win.

This will be a process. Bohl is working with a group of players that, for the most part, are not bjs recruits and do not fit his system. If we're still seeing this level or crap and quit after ear three, we can gather our pitchforks and form a mob and head to his house, but until then, let him work

I rather be doing that to Burman and the Good Ole Boy Club there in Laramie.
 
Wyokie said:
ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
All the bitching and doom and gloom, we were one (1) false start away from winning and ending on a high note. First and goal from the five and we pound hill 4 plays in a row and win.

This will be a process. Bohl is working with a group of players that, for the most part, are not bjs recruits and do not fit his system. If we're still seeing this level or crap and quit after ear three, we can gather our pitchforks and form a mob and head to his house, but until then, let him work

I rather be doing that to Burman and the Good Ole Boy Club there in Laramie.
Agreed
 
marcuswyo said:
Not sure what we got with Bohl. I fear another Glenn situation. I know that it was the right decision to move on from DC, but damn this is surely a bowl team with Brett Smith. Time of possession means nothing, and the pro style doesn't work Laramie ( as of today).
It hasn't? How do you explain Brian Hill finishing the season with 1,000 total yards after barely playing until the last five games?

Like you said, it's a bowl team with Smith. But we don't have Smith. So to say the system isn't successful when you replace someone like Smith with someone like Kirkegaard is ridiculous.

This team is far from a finished product. Bohl will have the defense playing much better once he can get his own players in there.
 
ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
All the bitching and doom and gloom, we were one (1) false start away from winning and ending on a high note. First and goal from the five and we pound hill 4 plays in a row and win.

This will be a process. Bohl is working with a group of players that, for the most part, are not bjs recruits and do not fit his system. If we're still seeing this level or crap and quit after ear three, we can gather our pitchforks and form a mob and head to his house, but until then, let him work
Yep. Some people are thinking about jumping ship after year 1 in a rebuilding process that'll take at least 3 before we actually see Bohl's system in place.

Connor Rains, he was the lone senior on the o-line starting line-up in this game, and much of the season. He has experience and definitely size, but has had issues all season with false starts. Not sure why. Lack of awareness? Not sure.
 
Man I'm suprised by the negativety! We only lost 1 more more game than last year, you can't expect a miracle! To be completely honest this team with the wrong attitude and coaching absolutely could have been 1 and 11 or even 0 and 12. Give the man some time, we are moving 100 percent in the right direction.
 
NewYorksCowboy said:
Man I'm suprised by the negativety! We only lost 1 more more game than last year, you can't expect a miracle! To be completely honest this team with the wrong attitude and coaching absolutely could have been 1 and 11 or even 0 and 12. Give the man some time, we are moving 100 percent in the right direction.

Not surprised at all. I believe the vast majority of fans accept it may take a few years to truly right the ship and are unabashedly Bohl fans. However, Bohl had a terrible first year, no two ways about it. UW clearly had the horses to make a bowl appearance and there are no excuses as to why they lost to UNM, UH, and SJSU. UW had a very favorable conference schedule and the MWC is the worst it has been since the inception of the conference. The cupboard was not so bare that we should be okay with UW being the worst team in the conference and one of the worst in the nation. Only someone so emotionally blinded by their love for the Pokes could argue against this (I liken it to a parent that can't see that their kid is not performing well). This certainly does not mean I think Bohl won't be successful in the future, but this was underwhelming first year and we shouldn't be shackled to looking at it with eyes wide shut.
 
Triple-WY said:
NewYorksCowboy said:
Man I'm suprised by the negativety! We only lost 1 more more game than last year, you can't expect a miracle! To be completely honest this team with the wrong attitude and coaching absolutely could have been 1 and 11 or even 0 and 12. Give the man some time, we are moving 100 percent in the right direction.

Not surprised at all. I believe the vast majority of fans accept it may take a few years to truly right the ship and are unabashedly Bohl fans. However, Bohl had a terrible first year, no two ways about it. UW clearly had the horses to make a bowl appearance and there are no excuses as to why they lost to UNM, UH, and SJSU. UW had a very favorable conference schedule and the MWC is the worst it has been since the inception of the conference. The cupboard was not so bare that we should be okay with UW being the worst team in the conference and one of the worst in the nation. Only someone so emotionally blinded by their love for the Pokes could argue against this (I liken it to a parent that can't see that their kid is not performing well). This certainly does not mean I think Bohl won't be successful in the future, but this was underwhelming first year and we shouldn't be shackled to looking at it with eyes wide shut.

Not sure how you figure that we had the right pieces to be bowling. Our QB is serviceable, RBs and WRs were of course strong, OL was horrendous (and we knew that in the preseason). On D, we knew the secondary was going to be suspect and that the DL should be strong but with a lot of questions at LB. Throw in the injury bug that struck and I don't think this should have been a bowl team. Hell, you could throw Saban, Miles, or Meyer in there and I don't know if we get to 6 wins.
 
WestWYOPoke said:
Triple-WY said:
NewYorksCowboy said:
Man I'm suprised by the negativety! We only lost 1 more more game than last year, you can't expect a miracle! To be completely honest this team with the wrong attitude and coaching absolutely could have been 1 and 11 or even 0 and 12. Give the man some time, we are moving 100 percent in the right direction.

Not surprised at all. I believe the vast majority of fans accept it may take a few years to truly right the ship and are unabashedly Bohl fans. However, Bohl had a terrible first year, no two ways about it. UW clearly had the horses to make a bowl appearance and there are no excuses as to why they lost to UNM, UH, and SJSU. UW had a very favorable conference schedule and the MWC is the worst it has been since the inception of the conference. The cupboard was not so bare that we should be okay with UW being the worst team in the conference and one of the worst in the nation. Only someone so emotionally blinded by their love for the Pokes could argue against this (I liken it to a parent that can't see that their kid is not performing well). This certainly does not mean I think Bohl won't be successful in the future, but this was underwhelming first year and we shouldn't be shackled to looking at it with eyes wide shut.

Not sure how you figure that we had the right pieces to be bowling. Our QB is serviceable, RBs and WRs were of course strong, OL was horrendous (and we knew that in the preseason). On D, we knew the secondary was going to be suspect and that the DL should be strong but with a lot of questions at LB. Throw in the injury bug that struck and I don't think this should have been a bowl team. Hell, you could throw Saban, Miles, or Meyer in there and I don't know if we get to 6 wins.


Respectfully disagree. I questioned whether the Pokes were a bowl worthy team at the beginning of the season, but now that the season has played out and we see just how terrible the MWC was, there is no reason to believe the Pokes should not have walked away with at least two wins between UNM, Hawaii, and SJSU. Wasn't UW still pretty healthy going into the Hawaii game? And even the SJSU game? Regardless, the injury bug was prevalent throughout the conference, will always be a factor, and we can only judge based on what did happen as opposed to what would have happened, but the Pokes just flat gave away a couple of games (though I also recognize they may have stolen one). Again, great things may lie ahead, but I can't say I am not frustrated to see UW making the same crushing [basic] mistakes in terms of special teams coverage, tackling, etc. that I really hoped a change in coaching would clean up. I am optimistic about the future and am a big Bohl fan, but I can't get on board with saying I am happy with the collective performance this year or that the level of play met expectations, and I can't imagine that Bohl would disagree with that sentiment, especially after giving a terrible UNM team their single home win of the season.
 
I can agree with that sentiment. I certainly am not pleased with how the season turned out, however it is on par with what my expectations were going in to the season. I predicted 5 wins, so we fell just short of that; wouldn't have been pleased with 4 or 5 wins. In the preseason I had my doubts that this could have been a bowl team, certainly would have taken it, just wasn't expecting it. Hopefully another year in the weight room and meeting room can lead to some improvement next fall.
 
You can't blame injuries and lack of effort as well as players leaving the team on Bohl, We all knew this would be a 3-5 year rebuild so why anyone is shocked that he had the same record DC averaged over 5 years is beyond me.

DC was 27–35 over 5 years with a 16–23 record in conference, I have confidence that Bohl will put up a better record after 5 years.
 
I don't think anyone should blame Bohl. He inherited an undisciplined and under motivated team. That's why so many players quit the team before and during the season. Now the offensive play calling was a little baffling at times. You can't run trick plays with undisciplined players. Especially our offensive line who led the Conference in giving up the most sacks and bone head offsides penalties. Now I'm not sure what the problem was with our defensive front, but they also had a conference low in tackles for losses and sacks. Is it lack of talent, motivation or defensive coaching? I know our secondary lacked depth and their replacements like Kamana and #29 have no clue what their doing. Giving up deep throws to wide open receivers on 3rd and long is inexcusable. Hoping DJ May and some of those Florida boys can add some better athletes to the secondary. LB will be a problem next year too. Maybe some JC players can fill in untill we build depth. Until then I'm just hoping some of our recruits don't back out of their commitment.
 
NewYorksCowboy said:
Man I'm suprised by the negativety! We only lost 1 more more game than last year, you can't expect a miracle! To be completely honest this team with the wrong attitude and coaching absolutely could have been 1 and 11 or even 0 and 12. Give the man some time, we are moving 100 percent in the right direction.

I don't think anyone expected "a miracle". However, tied for last place in the mountain division is about as bad as it gets. Regarding 1-11: we won 2 nail biters and 1 game with an improbable finish or we would have had that record.
I don't know how anyone can say with certainty we are moving in the right direction. The results on the field don't suggest anything has changed. Lousy special teams, giving up one big play after another, and inability to finish drives suggest that we haven't progressed at all.

I've got an idea: Let's give Burman another extension!
 
bladerunnr said:
NewYorksCowboy said:
Man I'm suprised by the negativety! We only lost 1 more more game than last year, you can't expect a miracle! To be completely honest this team with the wrong attitude and coaching absolutely could have been 1 and 11 or even 0 and 12. Give the man some time, we are moving 100 percent in the right direction.

I don't think anyone expected "a miracle". However, tied for last place in the mountain division is about as bad as it gets. Regarding 1-11: we won 2 nail biters and 1 game with an improbable finish or we would have had that record.
I don't know how anyone can say with certainty we are moving in the right direction. The results on the field don't suggest anything has changed. Lousy special teams, giving up one big play after another, and inability to finish drives suggest that we haven't progressed at all.

I've got an idea: Let's give Burman another extension!

So you thought a team would go to a new O & D scheme and improve from last year with less impact players?
 
Wyo2dal said:
bladerunnr said:
NewYorksCowboy said:
Man I'm suprised by the negativety! We only lost 1 more more game than last year, you can't expect a miracle! To be completely honest this team with the wrong attitude and coaching absolutely could have been 1 and 11 or even 0 and 12. Give the man some time, we are moving 100 percent in the right direction.

I don't think anyone expected "a miracle". However, tied for last place in the mountain division is about as bad as it gets. Regarding 1-11: we won 2 nail biters and 1 game with an improbable finish or we would have had that record.
I don't know how anyone can say with certainty we are moving in the right direction. The results on the field don't suggest anything has changed. Lousy special teams, giving up one big play after another, and inability to finish drives suggest that we haven't progressed at all.

I've got an idea: Let's give Burman another extension!

So you thought a team would go to a new O & D scheme and improve from last year with less impact players?

Consider the games we BARELY lost. We were a field goal off the upright away from beating san jose state and were a few yards away from beating New Mexico. Those two games we get a break and we are bowl eligible. Overall if you told me that Kirkgard was going to be our qb for a full season and that we would get decimated by injuries, I would think this result would be as good as I could hope for. I was bracing for the worst this year.
 
....but two can play that game. What about Montana, Air Force, and FAU? All games that came down to the wire that Wyoming pulled out, one in bizarre fashion (FAU). Wyoming was just as close to 1-11 as it was to 6-6 IMO. 4-8 seems fair for this team.
 
I agree j-rod. We all knew after starting 3-0 that we couldn't keep putting ourself in those situations and expect to be on the winning side every time
 
Everyone basically knew that the Qb spot would be the biggest weakness. There were moments when I thought that might not be the case, but in the end it really was. I also thought our Defense would be one of better squads in the conference. Injuries and lack of depth put that to rest. In the end we are what we've always been.
 
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