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Pac12 vs MWC Sept (Lawsuit Update)

WYOFLETCH

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After almost a year since the Pac 12 filed a lawsuit versus the Mountain West regarding the poaching penalties in the scheduling agreement, the two sides will find themselves in a US Federal court on Tuesday, September 9, 2025. The Big Mountain Podcast breakdown the issues:

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I fucking knew it was dirty business.
Discovery can be a bitch. The spin was always the MWC covertly took advantage of the poor remnants of the pee2. Not saying that the MWC couldn’t be victimized by any action they have taken in a court judgement, but this stuff is what I was hoping to see exposed as it deflates portions of the pee12 argument that they are simply victims of a vindictive MWC.

The legal minds can explain how it works but this is what the MWC had to do to further satisfy the court.
 
Discovery can be a bitch. The spin was always the MWC covertly took advantage of the poor remnants of the pee2. Not saying that the MWC couldn’t be victimized by any action they have taken in a court judgement, but this stuff is what I was hoping to see exposed as it deflates portions of the pee12 argument that they are simply victims of a vindictive MWC.

The legal minds can explain how it works but this is what the MWC had to do to further satisfy the court.
Not exactly sure what you are talking about. Discovery officially started yesterday and thus there has been no discovery to-date.

The only pleadings in the case, being the complaint filed quite a while ago and the answer/counterclaims filed yesterday, contain paragraphs of merely unproven allegations. A party is required to make allegations in their pleadings to support the claims they make and the relief they seek. The allegations are then supported or not-supported by the evidence which comes through discovery (likely a 1-2 year process).
 
If OSU & WSU beat the Pac12 defectors, I expect the MWC will beat the PAC12 Invaders. If not it sets precedent to change everything from GOR, to business that has been done in realignment for last decade. Probable outcome is that the PAC12 pays a portion of the $55M, not all of it and the 5 schools pay exit fees (maybe reduced amount)
 
Not exactly sure what you are talking about. Discovery officially started yesterday and thus there has been no discovery to-date.

The only pleadings in the case, being the complaint filed quite a while ago and the answer/counterclaims filed yesterday, contain paragraphs of merely unproven allegations. A party is required to make allegations in their pleadings to support the claims they make and the relief they seek. The allegations are then supported or not-supported by the evidence which comes through discovery (likely a 1-2 year process).
Was commenting on going forward with discovery if these allegations can be established in negating the pee12 argument that they were caught off guard and taken advantage of.
 
I think this is a war of attrition now. I think the MW has the better legal argument but the PAC stabbers are just trying to drag it out and make it painful to ensure a settlement that much in their favor. Will the MW and schools hold out and commit to the long run? Might have to to ensure the payments to UNLV etc.
 
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Was commenting on going forward with discovery if these allegations can be established in negating the pee12 argument that they were caught off guard and taken advantage of.
The PAC’s real argument is that the poaching penalties are an unenforceable penalty because they act as a windfall allowing the MWC to double dip for the same harm. The rest of the PAC’s claims and assertions are largely just additional thrown-ins that are unlikely to occupy much of the court’s time IMO.
 
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