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Our POS OOC schedule

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CowboyCO

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For YEARS I keep asking why we don't schedule better for OOC. We need to play one top team on the road, knowing we will likely lose it, but it would boost our RPI and give us a chance to steal a big win on the road. But we need to get a couple of quality teams here in Laramie as well. The Kentuckys of the world won't come here, but the Georgia States and other good mid-major teams will - teams between 75-150 RPI. We keep playing these 250+ rpi teams and it does SQUAT to help us get into the tournament. 21 wins won't get us in the dance unless we boost our RPI.
 
Our OOC schedule looked pretty damn good this year, but the supposedly good teams (NMSU, Denver, Colorado, SMU, Cal) didn't play as well as everyone thought they would have.

Northern Colorado - RPI 288
Western State - N/A
Colorado - 96
Florida A&M - 338
Stetson - 334
New Mexico State - 170
Denver - 210
@SMU - 79
Regis - N/A
@Cal - 72
Montana State - 280
Southern - 291
@Montana State - 280
 
CowboyCO said:
For YEARS I keep asking why we don't schedule better for OOC. We need to play one top team on the road, knowing we will likely lose it, but it would boost our RPI and give us a chance to steal a big win on the road. But we need to get a couple of quality teams here in Laramie as well. The Kentuckys of the world won't come here, but the Georgia States and other good mid-major teams will - teams between 75-150 RPI. We keep playing these 250+ rpi teams and it does SQUAT to help us get into the tournament. 21 wins won't get us in the dance unless we boost our RPI.
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It's not that they aren't scheduled it's that they schedule known tournament teams like SMU, Colorado, Cal & teams like that and then they have shitty seasons so it's not good for us. You can't know for sure your OOC schedule is going to be strong unless you schedule all top 10 teams and no one is going to do that ever.
 
Shyatt email's all OOC teams in top conferences every year- the only team that was willing to play at UW was SMU....
If we want to go on road or even do a 2 away one at home- not very many teams will do that...

I guess 7220 is too much for teams lol
 
pokefanchaz7 said:
Even a geographical rival like Colorado says he is done playing uw.

It's a tough place to play
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I think that one is because we've made the fluffs our bitches, even in a year they challenge for the PAC title and go to the NCAA, and we're in a funk, we beat them. We're their Achilles Heel.
 
fromolwyoming said:
pokefanchaz7 said:
Even a geographical rival like Colorado says he is done playing uw.

It's a tough place to play
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I think that one is because we've made the fluffs our bitches, even in a year they challenge for the PAC title and go to the NCAA, and we're in a funk, we beat them. We're their Achilles Heel.
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Point being. If we can't get a NCAA tourney team to want to come 3 hours down the interstate to play an out of conference game then you can see the challenge of scheduling quality home games
 
pokefanchaz7 said:
fromolwyoming said:
pokefanchaz7 said:
Even a geographical rival like Colorado says he is done playing uw.

It's a tough place to play
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I think that one is because we've made the fluffs our bitches, even in a year they challenge for the PAC title and go to the NCAA, and we're in a funk, we beat them. We're their Achilles Heel.
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Point being. If we can't get a NCAA tourney team to want to come 3 hours down the interstate to play an out of conference game then you can see the challenge of scheduling quality home games
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True. Maybe we could convince them to renew it somehow?
 
we schedule who we can get, NO ONE wants to come to Laramie, been that way for years, sure we could try it with powerhouses on the road but getting beat that way really isn't the solve I don't think, it is what it is and what it always will be!!!!
 
We need Riley "Splash" Grabau back asap. I wanted to give him a nickname cause I heard on some cast that he's our all time leading 3 point shooter and all time leading FT% shooter. Are those stats true? If so Splash it is. Dude deserves more respect if he is on the all timer list, I don't care if he's just a slower white dude with a ton of heart. He's one of our top shooters of all time. Maybe I should call him "The Silent Splash" because he gets no credit for his swish mastery.
 
I think it's interesting we scheduled a home/home with Montana State and are planning a home/neutral for next year. Gearing up to join the Big Sky?
 
CowboyCO said:
For YEARS I keep asking why we don't schedule better for OOC. We need to play one top team on the road, knowing we will likely lose it, but it would boost our RPI and give us a chance to steal a big win on the road. But we need to get a couple of quality teams here in Laramie as well. The Kentuckys of the world won't come here, but the Georgia States and other good mid-major teams will - teams between 75-150 RPI. We keep playing these 250+ rpi teams and it does SQUAT to help us get into the tournament. 21 wins won't get us in the dance unless we boost our RPI.
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I agree in general (in fact, I complained about this year's schedule when it came out), but I think there are a couple of caveats we need to add:

1. We did exactly what you suggest last year with the game at Ohio State.

2. Getting quality teams to Laramie - This is the big question mark. I don't think any of us on this board really know whether or not we could get more quality opponents to Laramie in home and home arrangements. What I do know is that we cannot get those types of opponents here as buy games, so we have to be willing to return the game.



The main thing I would like to see Shyatt do is get the Pokes into early season neutral court tournaments. Now, we won't be invited to something like Maui (where SDSU played Arizona this year) until we raise the profile of the program, but we can play in a tournament like the one CSU played in. No monster teams, but a bunch of neutral court wins over decent opponents.

I posted on the other board recently, but my ideal schedule would be something like this:


1 - D2 game

3 - Neutral court tourney games (Alaska, Puerto Rico, etc.). As I mentioned, we don't have a high enough profile right now to play in the top tier of these like Maui (where SDSU played Arizona), but we could play on the 2nd tier like CSU did in Alaska recently.

3 - 2 for 1 matchups. Maintain 3 of these arrangements at any given time resulting in 2 road games and one home game annually

4 - Home and Home matchups. 2 at home and 2 on the road in any given year. I would say DU, UNC, and NMSU can be ongoing long term relationships in this vein. Would also try to add one more mid-major type opponent (WCC, MVC, etc.) rather than a Big Sky type team.

2 - Home buy games. Focus on scheduling teams likely to finish in the top half of their low major conferences. Part of our high OOC RPI a couple of years ago was playing teams like North Carolina-Central and Southern (at least that year) that were in contention for their conference titles.


This gives us 6 home, 4 road, and 3 neutral. On certain years we could maybe trade the 3 neutral court games for a "tourney" in Laramie like we did a couple of times in recent years. Those teams tend to be pretty weak though so save that for rebuilding type seasons.


I haven't kept up on the current rules regarding exempt tournaments and scheduling frequency so there might be some tweaks required but I believe that would be the type of schedule that we could consistently handle competitively while building a strong resume. Hypothetically it would like this:

Regis (H)
UNO (H)
UVU (H)

Alaska Tourney (Missouri State, Pacific, UCSB) (N)

Cal (A)
SMU (A)
Nebraska (H)

DU (H)
UNC (H)
NMSU (A)
Northern Iowa (A)
 
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