OT: Chris Kluwe unjustly fired?

[Bryoming]

This story is kind of a big deal. If things like this are going on in the NFL it is a problem. You're allowed to have opposing views with your employees, but if those views cost them their job it is illegal.

http://t.co/X7Se0sQuF5

 

[castlerocker]

This is a true answer. I honestly don't know if my activism was the reason I got fired.

However, I'm pretty confident it was.

My feeling about this is:

"I honestly don't know if I am sick and tired of hearing about gays and their rights, but.........I'm pretty damn sure I am".

 

[lakesbison]

im a vikings season ticket holder 20 years, this punk is an attention whore and nothing more. he was cut by vikings, then 1 month later cut by Oakland. He is out of the limelight, so he uses this stuff to get attention. he's a whiny lil ---

 

[PokeOLoco]

Why would you be sick and tired of hearing about insitutional discrimination in America? I'm assuming because it doesn't affect you.

Cue people saying he was "a crappy punter and he's trying to make up an excuse for sucking" because that's what people always say to undermine someone trying to make a case someone doesn't agree with or care about. See "the girl that got raped was always being slutty so it's kind of her own fault" defense.

Was he fired because of what he said? I don't know. It certainly did not due him any favors. I think coming out with this is gutsy and I admire him for that. However, I think he should have brought it up to Ziggy since he had enough negative attention on him anyway might as well go for the gold. I can understand though just bowing out, because would only say the same things about him they are now. Maybe he thought he still had a job on another team and didn't want to comletely destroy that possibility. Also cue the "he was/is a bad egg, pot-stirrer, attention whore, and so on." Lakesbison jumped on that bandwagon pretty quick, :thumb: in fact before I could even finish typing this. Do you feel like the special teams coach should be held accountable for what he said?

 

[Bryoming]

This is a true answer. I honestly don't know if my activism was the reason I got fired.

However, I'm pretty confident it was.

My feeling about this is:

"I honestly don't know if I am sick and tired of hearing about gays and their rights, but.........I'm pretty damn sure I am".

Being tired of hearing about it is one thing, but the bigger issue here is someone getting fired for their personal views.

 

[TSpoke]

Why would you be sick and tired of hearing about insitutional discrimination in America? I'm assuming because it doesn't affect you.

Cue people saying he was "a crappy punter and he's trying to make up an excuse for sucking" because that's what people always say to undermine someone trying to make a case someone doesn't agree with or care about. See "the girl that got raped was always being slutty so it's kind of her own fault" defense.

Was he fired because of what he said? I don't know. It certainly did not due him any favors. I think coming out with this is gutsy and I admire him for that. However, I think he should have brought it up to Ziggy since he had enough negative attention on him anyway might as well go for the gold. I can understand though just bowing out, because would only say the same things about him they are now. Maybe he thought he still had a job on another team and didn't want to comletely destroy that possibility. Also cue the "he was/is a bad egg, pot-stirrer, attention whore, and so on." Lakesbison jumped on that bandwagon pretty quick, :thumb: in fact before I could even finish typing this. Do you feel like the special teams coach should be held accountable for what he said?

+1
I have no idea if he was fired because of what he was saying and doing for gay rights or not but the ST coach sounds like a real scumbag. I do have to wonder how this would be allowed (him fired for his views) if the owner was so supportive. I guess the ST coach could just make the recommendations and everyone else just went along but if I was Kluwe I would have went to the owner and spoke about what he felt was going on.

Interesting read.

 

[Asmodeanreborn]

This is a true answer. I honestly don't know if my activism was the reason I got fired.

However, I'm pretty confident it was.

My feeling about this is:

"I honestly don't know if I am sick and tired of hearing about gays and their rights, but.........I'm pretty damn sure I am".

Being tired of hearing about it is one thing, but the bigger issue here is someone getting fired for their personal views.

Being fired for personal views happen all the time if you share them in a way that might reflect on your employer in a way they do not in any way want to associate with. In this case, it sounds like he checked with Vikings first, though, so if that's the case, that would be rather messed up.

 

[castlerocker]

This story is kind of a big deal.

This story is certainly NOT a big deal........it's just more of the same old shit. It is the reason people come to this site............to get away from the same old crap in the news.

This is not UW football worthy.

 

[nashvillepoke]

In a right to work state you can be fired for anything, but you can also choose not to work for that employer. This is a two way street, the employer is not always wrong like everyone wants to believe.

 

[whyoh]

This is a true answer. I honestly don't know if my activism was the reason I got fired.

However, I'm pretty confident it was.

My feeling about this is:

"I honestly don't know if I am sick and tired of hearing about gays and their rights, but.........I'm pretty damn sure I am".

Being tired of hearing about it is one thing, but the bigger issue here is someone getting fired for their personal views.

what if your personal view is that the receptionist likes getting slapped on the ass?

 

[PotatoCreekPete]

This story is kind of a big deal. If things like this are going on in the NFL it is a problem. You're allowed to have opposing views with your employees, but if those views cost them their job it is illegal.

http://t.co/X7Se0sQuF5

Frankly, I don't think that it is a big deal. The NFL and other major sports in America have demonstrated a passion for towing the PC line, look at the OL from Miami as just one example. Frankly if this guy were cutting it in the NFL he would have employment, and Minnesota wasn't the only team that he got cut from. This smells to high heaven of a guy that is searching for an excuse as to why he was cut and of course the excuse has to be anything but that he wasn't cutting it. I have no doubt that this guy is eating a lot of cheese with his "whine".....

this is a real NON story.

 

[Bryoming]

This is a true answer. I honestly don't know if my activism was the reason I got fired.

However, I'm pretty confident it was.

My feeling about this is:

"I honestly don't know if I am sick and tired of hearing about gays and their rights, but.........I'm pretty damn sure I am".

Being tired of hearing about it is one thing, but the bigger issue here is someone getting fired for their personal views.

what if your personal view is that the receptionist likes getting slapped on the ass?

You can have that view all you'd like, but if you act on it then you are playing a whole different game. Some people's personal views are that other people should be killed for perceived transgressions. Thinking that is fine, but acting on it is not.

 

[Bryoming]

This story is kind of a big deal.

This story is certainly NOT a big deal........it's just more of the same old shit. It is the reason people come to this site............to get away from the same old crap in the news.

This is not UW football worthy.

Hence the OT (meaning off-topic) in the title.

 

[PotatoCreekPete]

This is a true answer. I honestly don't know if my activism was the reason I got fired.

However, I'm pretty confident it was.

My feeling about this is:

"I honestly don't know if I am sick and tired of hearing about gays and their rights, but.........I'm pretty damn sure I am".

Being tired of hearing about it is one thing, but the bigger issue here is someone getting fired for their personal views.

what if your personal view is that the receptionist likes getting slapped on the ass?

This is like comparing apples to oranges.....touching someone is in a MUCH different category than just saying something. No one has the right to touch another person without their permission, especially when it comes to a man touching a woman, all you have to do is read the newspapers each day to know that fact....but I am truly wondering if people have the right in this country to have their own opinions when it differs from the PC police? The press is decidedly left in their leaning and will ruin people if they simply disagree with them and this goes along with professional athletes as well.

 

[PokeOLoco]

Just my personal opinion: It's not the right to say whatever the hell you want, whenever you want, to whomever you want. The Supreme Court has ruled so numerous times. Forget Kluwe's objectives for a moment. I don't believe saying "Round up all the gays, put them on an island, and nuke them tell it's glowing" is just the PC police making sure no one is offended. That's pretty hardcore stuff. Having a problem with saying "Round up all the jews and gas them in concentration camps", isn't just the PC police. Those comments are essentially the same. There's saying something people disagree with that could be construed as being offensive PC police, and then there's saying messed up shit like that. VERY VERY different.

 

[KansasPoke]

The Special Teams coach just made a statement. Definitely not a happy camper about what Kluwe said. Not to mention he himself has gay family members.

I've always enjoyed reading or listeing to Chris but sometimes when one is very outspoken and says whatever they want... it will come back to really bite you in the butt in the long run.

 

[BeaverPoke]

I don't know much about this situation, but I find it ironic that in a country where we are working towards Gay rights so much, that this country cares more about some fucking rich red-neck on TV spouting off some totally asinine bullshit and how his "rights" we violated, but we can't even give a gay person 2 minutes without berating them.

 

[alyssa]

Honestly, I did not read the whole article because of time.
I would not fire Kluwe for what he said but I would fire that coach for saying what he said about nuking gays.

I wonder what the hell some people think. Anyone who has a child could have a gay child so it's hard to understand people who hate gays.
It reminds me of someone I know who used to attack gays physically. He has 3 children. A straight daughter and two sons who identify themselves as gay. I wonder how it has changed him. ????

I work in public schools many times over the school year to work with school children and I know a lot of gay students. Also I see more and more children who are identifying themselves as transgendered (like Chaz Bono). I am always watching to make sure they are treated fairly.
I can be so protective!

 

[MrTitleist]

To me there's two parts to this.. good on Kluwe sticking to his guns and not bowing to pressure from management. He stuck to his beliefs for a positive change.

The other part.. you can be fired for what you say.. I'm pretty sure if I started spouting off about a controversial topic to the public my employer would not appreciate that and would probably find a way to remove me.

This was a very interesting read though.

 

[bladerunnr]

I don't know much about this situation, but I find it ironic that in a country where we are working towards Gay rights so much, that this country cares more about some fucking rich red-neck on TV spouting off some totally asinine bullshit and how his "rights" we violated, but we can't even give a gay person 2 minutes without berating them.

Since most of your posts read like the rantings of a dumb redneck: I think it's ironic that you call someone else a redneck. I'll make it simple for you: If Aaron Rogers had made the comments the punter had, he wouldn't have been cut. If Duck Dynasty wasn't making millions of dollars for A and E, then that show might be off the air.