OSU Loss. Whats it mean for our Cowboys?

[wyocowboy2014]

No that OSU lost they still face a big game against current #5 OU. Given that one of them has to loose, will this bump Boise back into a BCS game and us into the second place spot for the conference bowls? You would think that gives us the Poinsettia Bowl but at that point would Vegas want us over TCU?

 

[MrTitleist]

Sounds like we should pound Boise.. just to make sure they won't be in this title talk.

AMIRITE

 

[Wyo2dal]

It's good and unfortunate that OSU managed to lose, The great side is the outcome for us the bad side is the fact that Bama or Oregon will be back in the title talk and I seriously hate them.

Also OSU won't slip as far as BSU, While I now it seems odd BSU losing to the #24 team in the nation slipping 5 places I suspect OSU to go from #2 to #5 at the lowest.

 

[wyopokes2]

What I found most odd about the loss tonight was that the Cyclones had a chance to make it alot worse than they did. Pick six and other notable errors kept this pretty close. Granted OSU mad a ton of mistakes as well, but I just thought it was odd to see them play that bad. Iowa State's defense held the number 3 offense in the country to 31 points in 2 overtimes. I'm freakin impressed! Maybe our D will get off the plane in Boise!

I will give our D this, #2 in the country in TO margin!

 

[billings]

Don't you have to be conference champ to go to a BCS bowl from a non AQ? I don't think Boise can go if TCU wins the conference. Best hope is for Houston to lose and TCU gets into BCS bowl. Even though TCU may have a lower BCS number they are eligible as conference champ while Boise is not regardless.

my understanding anyway

 

[seattlecowboy]

You have to be a conference champ to receive an autobid to a BCS game. So as it stands right now TCU gets the nod over Boise even though Boise is ranked higher because Boise will not be conference champs.

TCU is the one that can still go to a BCS game with an automatic bid. They are conference champs and they just need Houston to get beat once and then move into the Top 16 of the BCS rankings by years end and they get an auto bid. Right now TCU is sitting at 19. They need to move up 3 spots which is doable.

The only way Boise gets in is if they get an at large spot. I think it would be pretty hard for Boise to get picked as an at large. Depends on how many teams are from the same conference that are eligible since no conference can have more than 2.

Best bet right now is to hope that Houston loses a game and then TCU moves up 3 spots.

 

[laxwyo]

We should stop using "autobid". There is no autobid for the MW. TCU can get an at large bid being the conference champion, but I believe they need to be ranked so high for it to happen. The fact that the BE sucks and there is a limit to the teams from each conference might bode well for TCU.

 

[Adv8RU12]

There is something I remember from long ago about chickens and hatching and counting. The Pokes haven't beaten NM yet, remember. It's a few hours early to talk about which bowl the Pokes go to.

 

[Wyo2dal]

We should stop using "autobid". There is no autobid for the MW. TCU can get an at large bid being the conference champion, but I believe they need to be ranked so high for it to happen. The fact that the BE sucks and there is a limit to the teams from each conference might bode well for TCU.

The at large bid is based on the highest ranked team in a non aq conference

3. The champion of Conference USA, the Mid-American Conference, the Mountain West Conference, the Sun Belt Conference, or the Western Athletic Conference will earn an automatic berth in a BCS bowl game if either:

A. Such team is ranked in the top 12 of the final BCS Standings, or,
B. Such team is ranked in the top 16 of the final BCS Standings and its ranking in the final BCS Standings is higher than that of a champion of a conference that has an annual automatic berth in one of the BCS bowls.

No more than one such team from Conference USA, the Mid-American Conference, the Mountain West Conference, the Sun Belt Conference, and the Western Athletic Conference shall earn an automatic berth in any year. (Note: a second team may be eligible for at-large eligibility as noted below.) If two or more teams from those conferences satisfy the provisions for an automatic berth, then the team with the highest finish in the final BCS Standings will receive the automatic berth, and the remaining team or teams will be considered for at-large selection if it meets the criteria.

At-large eligibility
If there are fewer than 10 automatic qualifiers, then the bowls will select at-large participants to fill the remaining berths. An at-large team is any Football Bowl Subdivision team that is bowl-eligible and meets the following requirements:

A. Has won at least nine regular-season games, and
B. Is among the top 14 teams in the final BCS Standings.

No more than two teams from a conference may be selected, regardless of whether they are automatic qualifiers or at-large selections, unless two non-champions from the same conference are ranked No. 1 and No. 2 in the final BCS Standings.

BSU still has a perfect chance to get an at large bid and under the rules Houston could get the automatic berth. I suspect we will see BSU in a BCS game and TCU in the Vegas Bowl unless we beat BSU. BSU does not need to win the conference to get at large eligibility while TCU would have to come up 10 more spots to surpass Houston for the automatic berth.

 

[Wyoirish]

There is a remote possibility that both TCU and BSU get bids to the BCS, albeit a very slim one. If Houston loses and the teams above them that still have to play in the Big 10 play and lose I fully expect to see TCU in the top 16 and receive the non-AQ bid but for BSU to make it they need a lot of help. They would need Stanford to lose to either Cal or Notre Dame or both and fall significantly to pick up an at large. The limitations on how many teams from each conference will help them but I still think its pretty bleak for them, especially after we beat them on the blue next week.

Not so for TCU though as I thnk they have a real shot especially now that #20 Southern Miss lost and who represents probably the best chance of the team that can knock off Houston. If TCU goes BCS, which I fully expect them to, and we beat Boise, and we take care of the rest, we are in Las Vegas boys! If we win 2/3 we are in San Diego, and even in that case there is still a chance that we go to Las Vegas since Boise already played the odds on favorite to be there on the other side in Nevada this season and beat them pretty good. I am not not sure LV would be interested in a rematch of that game. It all starts today with a decisive win against the Lobos.

 

[Wyo2dal]

There is a remote possibility that both TCU and BSU get bids to the BCS, albeit a very slim one. If Houston loses and the teams above them that still have to play in the Big 10 play and lose I fully expect to see TCU in the top 16 and receive the non-AQ bid but for BSU to make it they need a lot of help. They would need Stanford to lose to either Cal or Notre Dame or both and fall significantly to pick up an at large. The limitations on how many teams from each conference will help them but I still think its pretty bleak for them, especially after we beat them on the blue next week.

Not so for TCU though as I thnk they have a real shot especially now that #20 Southern Miss lost and who represents probably the best chance of the team that can knock off Houston. If TCU goes BCS, which I fully expect them to, and we beat Boise, and we take care of the rest, we are in Las Vegas boys! If we win 2/3 we are in San Diego. It all starts today with a decisive win against the Lobos.

TCU has nearly no chance coming from 19th to 10th? I don't see it happening their last two teams are crap yet of the last two teams Houston plays SMU is ranked. So here is how it most likely pans out. TCU wins out and their ranking doesn't budge because they are beating no one.

Houston beats SMU and most likely passes BSU in the rankings. If Houston and BSU lose out TCU gets the at large eligibility berth. That is a pipe dream, BSU goes to a BCS Bowl at large, Houston gets the automatic birth and TCU lands in the Vegas Bowl.

Those are my picks so we'll see how close I get it.

 

[Wyoirish]

There is a remote possibility that both TCU and BSU get bids to the BCS, albeit a very slim one. If Houston loses and the teams above them that still have to play in the Big 10 play and lose I fully expect to see TCU in the top 16 and receive the non-AQ bid but for BSU to make it they need a lot of help. They would need Stanford to lose to either Cal or Notre Dame or both and fall significantly to pick up an at large. The limitations on how many teams from each conference will help them but I still think its pretty bleak for them, especially after we beat them on the blue next week.

Not so for TCU though as I thnk they have a real shot especially now that #20 Southern Miss lost and who represents probably the best chance of the team that can knock off Houston. If TCU goes BCS, which I fully expect them to, and we beat Boise, and we take care of the rest, we are in Las Vegas boys! If we win 2/3 we are in San Diego. It all starts today with a decisive win against the Lobos.

TCU has nearly no chance coming from 19th to 10th? I don't see it happening their last two teams are crap yet of the last two teams Houston plays SMU is ranked. So here is how it most likely pans out. TCU wins out and their ranking doesn't budge because they are beating no one.

Houston beats SMU and most likely passes BSU in the rankings. If Houston and BSU lose out TCU gets the at large eligibility berth. That is a pipe dream, BSU goes to a BCS Bowl at large, Houston gets the automatic birth and TCU lands in the Vegas Bowl.

Those are my picks so we'll see how close I get it.

TCU doesn't have to get to #10 they only have to get to #16. They can most definitely move up 3 spots in the time left because the teams right ahead of them still have to play each other. With a loss by Houston TCU would be the higher ranked conference champion, hence the reason why they would get the bid.

 

[Wyo2dal]

They have to get to 10 to pass Houston, MWC and share that bid currently Houston wins by wins and ranking.

No more than one such team from Conference USA, the Mid-American Conference, the Mountain West Conference, the Sun Belt Conference, and the Western Athletic Conference shall earn an automatic berth in any year. (Note: a second team may be eligible for at-large eligibility as noted below.)

I guess they could get an at large but not likely

 

[seattlecowboy]

They have to get to 10 to pass Houston, MWC and share that bid currently Houston wins by wins and ranking.

No more than one such team from Conference USA, the Mid-American Conference, the Mountain West Conference, the Sun Belt Conference, and the Western Athletic Conference shall earn an automatic berth in any year. (Note: a second team may be eligible for at-large eligibility as noted below.)

I guess they could get an at large but not likely

Actually TCU only has to get to # 16 to get the autobid if Houston loses now. Because TCU is ranked higher than any team from the Big East conference and also because if Houston loses they are NOT conference champs. So TCU just needs Houston to lose and TCU to move up to #16 and they get the "AUTOBID" and yes it is a AUTOBID.

The reason Houston won't be able to be conference champs if they lose either of the remaining two games is because if they lose to Tulsa then they can not get into C-USA championship game which eliminates them and then of course if they lose the C-USA championship then they obviously do not win it either. Houston has to win out or TCU gets the auto bid.

Boise might have an outside shot at an at large bid now after all the upsets tonight.

 

[Wyo2dal]

BSU already has an at large bid wrapped up it's just up to the Bowl selections to choose them to go to a BCS Bowl. They meet all the requirements, You are right but there are 2 things.

Houston losing and falling below TCU and Wyoming losing to BSU. If Houston wins and Wyoming wins, Houston gets the autobid and BSU get's the at large birth with TCU most likely ending up in the Vegas Bowl.

Either way Wyoming could still potentially get to the Vegas Bowl because of all the losses today and if Houston loses next week.

Lots of implications between this week and next, I don't actually care I Want Wyoming to beat BSU regardless the Bowl outcome and Wyoming is already going Bowling somewhere.