Now that everyone should be cooled off

[laxwyo]

It was a bad day, no doubt. I was really bummed all night, almost sick. Then I had time to think about it. The season was over anyway, so does it really matter that we didn't beat NM? I still saw a lot of great things during the game. We put major yardage up on a poor team. However, we did lose because of turnovers and a fairly soft defense. If we don't have the personnel on the offense to run the system Coach wants to run, I think it's fair to say we lack personnel on the defensive side of the ball. I have my doubts about English, but he could just be lacking in the personnel department to do what he wants as well.

As long as the offense keeps clicking and we see some progression of the younger guys, I'll be happy. Yeah, I want to win these last two games, but it's still not that big of a deal. I was happy Herron and AA were running so well. Yeah, Herron made some mistakes, but he's young and people have bad games. I think he definitely has the talent we need.

I think a few of you are in the same boat as I am, but a lot of you seem to be furious with the lack of progression. Really? It sounds like some people think DC should be fired. If you're in that boat, you're a douche. DC won a bowl game last year, which is more than we've had in a long time. Some of you more critical fellas actually have an avatar of the goal line stand. If you think coach sucks so much, maybe you should change it. You think Glenn was on his way to winning the NM bowl? Glenn won Las Vegas bowl with Koenning recruits and Christiansen won with a lot of his own freshman and Glenn's defensive recruits.

I'm saying that we all need to fucking relax. We aren't going to a bowl game and at least our offense has come alive the last few games. Sure could be worse. Give a guy more than two years without being a total dillhole about every bad loss.

 

[Asmodeanreborn]

Thank you for saying what I felt like saying. After not having a chance on a bowl anymore, I was hoping we'd at least get to see what this offense can do. It was fun watching them all break for big runs, or a few long passes that floated into exactly the space they needed to. Yeah, there were mistakes and they should've won, but they finally had some yardage on offense despite running the ball!

You can't lose the turnover battle 0-4 and still expect to win, no matter how bad your opponent is.

I don't know if anybody noticed either, but on third downs, or second and short, they targeted our safeties with the pass an awful lot, and successfully converted EVERY time they did this. I can promise you that UNLV and CSU will take notice of that.

A few examples, all on scoring drives:

3rd and 4 at UNM 26 Stump Godfrey pass complete to Josh Fussell for 6 yards to the NMex 32, tackled by Chris Prosinski for a 1ST down.

3rd and 8 at UNM 34 Stump Godfrey pass complete to Ty Kirk for 51 yards to the Wyom 15, tackled by Shamiel Gary and Marqueston Huff out-of-bounds for a 1ST down.

2nd and 4 at UNM 43 Stump Godfrey pass complete to Lucas Reed for 24 yards to the Wyom 33, tackled by Chris Prosinski for a 1ST down.

3rd and 2 at UNM 38 Stump Godfrey pass complete to Lucas Reed for 10 yards to the NMex 48, tackled by Chris Prosinski out-of-bounds for a 1ST down.

3rd and 2 at UNM 40 Stump Godfrey pass complete to Lucas Reed for 15 yards to the Wyom 45, tackled by Chris Prosinski out-of-bounds for a 1ST down.

 

[Wind River Poke]

It was a bad day, no doubt. I was really bummed all night, almost sick. Then I had time to think about it. The season was over anyway, so does it really matter that we didn't beat NM? I still saw a lot of great things during the game. We put major yardage up on a poor team. However, we did lose because of turnovers and a fairly soft defense. If we don't have the personnel on the offense to run the system Coach wants to run, I think it's fair to say we lack personnel on the defensive side of the ball. I have my doubts about English, but he could just be lacking in the personnel department to do what he wants as well.

As long as the offense keeps clicking and we see some progression of the younger guys, I'll be happy. Yeah, I want to win these last two games, but it's still not that big of a deal. I was happy Herron and AA were running so well. Yeah, Herron made some mistakes, but he's young and people have bad games. I think he definitely has the talent we need.

I think a few of you are in the same boat as I am, but a lot of you seem to be furious with the lack of progression. Really? It sounds like some people think DC should be fired. If you're in that boat, you're a douche. DC won a bowl game last year, which is more than we've had in a long time. Some of you more critical fellas actually have an avatar of the goal line stand. If you think coach sucks so much, maybe you should change it. You think Glenn was on his way to winning the NM bowl? Glenn won Las Vegas bowl with Koenning recruits and Christiansen won with a lot of his own freshman and Glenn's defensive recruits.

I'm saying that we all need to f##king relax. We aren't going to a bowl game and at least our offense has come alive the last few games. Sure could be worse. Give a guy more than two years without being a total dillhole about every bad loss.

So what should I change my avatar to? A picture of a douche, a dillhole? You can relax a bit more as well there lax. No need for name calling and personal attacks.

 

[laxwyo]

It was a bad day, no doubt. I was really bummed all night, almost sick. Then I had time to think about it. The season was over anyway, so does it really matter that we didn't beat NM? I still saw a lot of great things during the game. We put major yardage up on a poor team. However, we did lose because of turnovers and a fairly soft defense. If we don't have the personnel on the offense to run the system Coach wants to run, I think it's fair to say we lack personnel on the defensive side of the ball. I have my doubts about English, but he could just be lacking in the personnel department to do what he wants as well.

As long as the offense keeps clicking and we see some progression of the younger guys, I'll be happy. Yeah, I want to win these last two games, but it's still not that big of a deal. I was happy Herron and AA were running so well. Yeah, Herron made some mistakes, but he's young and people have bad games. I think he definitely has the talent we need.

I think a few of you are in the same boat as I am, but a lot of you seem to be furious with the lack of progression. Really? It sounds like some people think DC should be fired. If you're in that boat, you're a douche. DC won a bowl game last year, which is more than we've had in a long time. Some of you more critical fellas actually have an avatar of the goal line stand. If you think coach sucks so much, maybe you should change it. You think Glenn was on his way to winning the NM bowl? Glenn won Las Vegas bowl with Koenning recruits and Christiansen won with a lot of his own freshman and Glenn's defensive recruits.

I'm saying that we all need to f##king relax. We aren't going to a bowl game and at least our offense has come alive the last few games. Sure could be worse. Give a guy more than two years without being a total dillhole about every bad loss.

So what should I change my avatar to? A picture of a douche, a dillhole? You can relax a bit more as well there lax. No need for name calling and personal attacks.

So, do you think DC should be fired? If you do, you're a douche. That was the main argument of the paragraph. If you think a guy should get more than one year after a bowl win, then you're not.

The thing I don't get, is how we can all sit around here and talk about the play calling, the coaching and etc while most of us have no clue what's going on. DC's resume' is a little better than all of ours. And it doesn't matter if you've played or coached hschool. Unless Mike Leach is out there and telling us these clowns don't know what they are doing, I see no reason to be hitting the panic button already.

We're all passionate, that's why we are here.

 

[Wyolie Coyote]

The season was over anyway, so does it really matter that we didn't beat NM?

And you want to call out other fans as douches and dillholes?! Fans accepting a loss like Saturday's loss is the problem with Wyoming athletics. That was a total embarassment to lose to the worst team in the country no matter what you say. Anyone accepting that loss or the fact that Locksly outcoached us is in denial of the problems with our program. I have not read anyone calling for DC to be fired. However, there is ample concern over his coordinators. Their heads should be on the chopping block at this point given the lack of improvement this season. DC better figure out that he needs to surround himself with quality coaches. Being stubborn and loyal to a fault does not work leads to losing your own job. Joe Glenn should be the example of what happens to loyalty and refusal to make changes to your staff.

 

[Fullback41]

Hey man I can take it, call me a bad fan, a few years or even weeks ago I probably would have as well. Lax I can understand where you are coming from. I bitched about the loss, season, etc. I never have said DC needs to be fired or even Arroyo or English. After the SDSU loss I was so pissed I avoided the forum for 4 days, after the NM loss I was ready to vent sooner. I do realize we were not going bowling so while i was not as disappointed after this loss as I was embarrassed and frustrated. This realistically is the first game of the Dave era that we were supposed to win and lost. We have lost to the teams we should lose to and won the games we should win and last year we won the pick em games, while this year we have lost the pick'ems other than Toledo, who is in a lesser conference. From everything I have seen, read, or heard, I think Dave is a good coach and has a good plan to build a consistent winning program. This year the Offense has let us down against AFA and BYU, and the Defense has let us down against SDSU and NM. Special Teams hurt against BYU and turnovers at NM. It seems like each week something different has been the culprit. This loss sucks because we realistically should have won 48-27, but turnovers are a part of the game and they killed us this game, but so did the defense by giving up 34 points to NM. That said, without Arroyo we probably don't have ACS or a NM Bowl win. With out English as a bridge from the old staff to the new, last years seniors don't buy in and we don't have a 4 down goalline stand and a NM Bowl win. I think Dave, Arroyo, and English have all contributed to last years bowl victory and they will again. I never called for any of the coaches heads, I just questioned whether I could take another 4-8 season, I would rather focus more time on my own kids sports. As it sits this year, we have our 4 tickets to the CSU game and we will go root on our Pokes. Next year we will only lose a few starters and return a ton of talent so I am already looking forward to it along with the recruiting I follow every year. I normally don't like fair weather fans, but I think I have been more than a fair weather fan for years and the perfect storm of frustration, work, kids, etc makes me think another 4-8 season could mean I take a sabatical until the next bowl game. Personally, I wish I were a billionaire so I could pay for the changes I think would be beneficial to UW athletics, so until that happens I will keep working on that billion dollar idea. I see all the positives the program has made and the potential coming up in the future, but at the same time we lost to 2 teams we beat last year so any way you measure it we took at least 2 steps backwards this year and it is frustrating for a team we want to be on the rise. If we take 2 steps back this year, one would hope we take at least 3 steps forward next year.

 

[ELKMT]

Dave English is the worst D coordinator ever. Arroyo=good recruiter not good coordinator, keep him around DC calls plays otherwise we suck again next year.

 

[socalpoke82]

I'm as frustrated as anyone about the way this season has turned out, but it is what it is. I think both the coaches and players are responsible. I agree the play calling and some of the defensive issues have been bad enough to cause ulcers at many points. However, despite the losses in the last few weeks, it has definitely refreshing to see the offense put up some yards and points. For instance, in the first seven games, wyoming scored 81 points. In the last three, 89. The biggest problem, imo, for wyoming is execution. This was more apparent for me in the TCU and BSU games. Those teams execute at such a higher level than wyoming. Do they make mistakes? sure, but they don't make many, and they're good enough to overcome them. this is big reason why they're kicking everyone's ass. wyoming is not at this point.

Another thing to consider in regards to execution, is what our record could/should be. Despite all the bad play calling, turnovers, and mistakes in general, Wyoming could pretty easily be 6-4 right now, and I think at the worst 4-6. They had chances to win some of these games, and in some cases should have. But the mistakes killed them. When they had chances to win these close games they just couldn't get it done. Cases in point (for me).

Air Force - Lost 20-14. ACS overthrew an open receiver in the end zone on the first drive and gets picked off. A few times they got great field position but couldn't do anything with it, and towards the end, the defense could not stop the academy. They converted on more than one fourth down. And the Leonard fumble at the end; kind of hard to pick a lot at that since it was helmet on ball, and that's almost a guaranteed fumble every time, plus Leonard has been a solid receiver.

BYU - Lost 25-20. We all know we got f###ed by the non pass interference call at the end. But, that's not the only reason we lost. We spotted BYU 16 points in the first quarter, and had -18 yards of offense at halftime... and still had a chance to win. Without the abyssmal first half, I think wyoming easily walks out of Provo with a win.

San Diego State - lost 48-38. Did a good job shutting down hillman, but he wasn't 100% anyways. Forgot that Sampson and Brown are two of the elite receivers in the conference, and the inability to stop the play action, and make a stop at the end of the game were killers. Honestly, we really got beat by 3 players: Lindley, Sampson, and Brown. However, I think the biggest killer was that San Diego State scored 20 points on drives that started in wyoming territory, including two inside of the 20.

New Mexico - lost 34-31. Obviously turnovers, and again, defense's inability to make stops at key points. We handed that game to the lobos. We ran all over them, all game. But, 3 turnovers in the red zone, and the other giving them the ball at the 10 isn't going to bode well for any team. Wyoming should have scored over 50 points in that game, and won by about 30.

These games were there to win, but unlike last year, no one stepped up and made the plays necessary to win them. Despite all of the problems the team has had on both sides of the ball, they had games to win and just didn't get it done. Practicing hard and doing everything the coaches ask is one thing... in practice. But all 11 guys on each side of the ball have to execute and play hard all the time, and I have never felt at any point this season that everyone on the team was playing like they wanted to win. That's got to change. All these players keep saying they're tired of losing. Well, go f***ing win. The games are there for them to take, so go take them. It's also up to the coaches to execute in insuring that the players execute. So I pin the problems on the coaches and the players. Win as a team lose as a team. I just hope when DC and all the other coaches talk about improving each week to be a better football team, they're including themselves as part of that conversation. Despite all of the frustrations this year, I do see hope for the future, but they have to address the problems.

I'm not going call out any fans. Everyone is frustrated. I have my own thoughts on coaches and whatnot, but I'm keeping them to myself, because I figure we're all fans, and regardless of opinions on coaches and how frustrating this season has been, we should just suck it up, stay united as Cowboy fans, and keep rooting for these guys.

This post was more of a personal rambling. I do however think a lot of wyoming fans have been in a funk for 14 years. We had a pretty consistent program that decade. by the 6 win bowl eligibilty requirement, wyoming was bowl eligible 8 times in the 90's... went to 2 bowl games. And the 96' season is beyond a travesty. 10-2, nationally ranked... no bowl invite. How can any of this not be disheartening? It's like what's the point in how many games we win, no bowl is going to have us? In some ways Wyoming isn't rebuilding with DC. They're starting from scratch to try and get back to that consistency. Is DC the guy to get them there? I hope so, but only time will tell.