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Novelty of playoff wearing off?

ragtimejoe1

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Interesting that last night's game (a good one) had a 15% decline in ratings compared with Ohio State vs Oregon (a blowout) with both games on a Monday night. The New Year's Eve ratings for the other games were down 35%-50%. Certainly, the timing of the games impacted that, but last night's decline indicates that the New Years Eve time slot wasn't the only reason for the decline.

On a side note, ESPN had to pay advertisers somewhere around $20 million in ad makegoods (I'm not sure if this is actual cash or reduced future advertising rates or?) because ratings were so abysmal for the first playoff games.

Interesting dilemma in CFB right now. Advertisers want New Years Day games and CFB want New Years Eve games.

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I think it had to do with the fact both teams were from the south. LAst years game had more national appeal than this one did. And the new Years eve games had terrible ratings so not as many people were sucked in by that(not to mention those games were boring) Hope they decide to change the NYE games but doubt the ywill but don't think this games rating were a reflection of people being sick of the playoffs just a reflection of the matchup. We'll see next year I guess.
 
Sparse crowds in downtown Phoenix as well. I worked the game last night(BTW rocking Wyoming gear) There just didn't feel like there was a lot of hype. I'm guessing 75% of the crowd was from Clemson. Wish they would have won, a lot more money would have come my way!
 
No one wants to watch Alabama win anything again. College football has lost all parity and its garbage. All pro sports have a mechanism to keep parity whether it's salary cap or luxury tax. The big boys just keep getting and spending more money.
 
laxwyo said:
No one wants to watch Alabama win anything again. College football has lost all parity and its garbage. All pro sports have a mechanism to keep parity whether it's salary cap or luxury tax. The big boys just keep getting and spending more money.

Interesting point. I always think about it as P5 vs G5, but your thought is a good one. Even within the P5, most programs will never sniff a NC or playoff spot due to resource and recruiting discrepancies.

I agree with you. Honestly, it is time for an NFL minor league. If it loses money, that is a cost the NFL absorbs.

College football can continue but the emphasis should switch back to college rather than football. It will never happen, but that is what should happen.

If a minor league NFL existed, it would also weaken the argument about exploiting student athletes. After all, if you aren't good enough to go to the minors, then the name on the front of the jersey is what is selling. (if that makes sense).
 
For years I have preferred college over NFL. However, with the P5 conferences pulling away, I feel interest nationwide is slipping; as I find myself looking at the P5 schools as a bunch of condescending A-holes as well. Teams like Boise State, as much as I hate, I want to see them succeed to stick it to the P5.

Although watching the championship game last night was good, it doesn't compare to what happened in the NFL the exact same week. There were some unbelievable games in the NFL. The fact is, after New Years, it is all about NFL playoffs in America.
 
Do the ratings from last night include the various broadcasts as part of the ESPN "megacast", viewers who streamed from the ESPN app, and those who have Internet TV like Sling?

College football interest may be down, but I think it's more likely that the increasing amount of cord cutters and people who get TV in less traditional ways have skewed the ratings and the current way to count viewership hasn't caught up with new technology
 
The game viewership might've been down, but..

[tweet]https://twitter.com/McMurphyESPN/status/686952472603045892[/tweet]
 
i enjoyed all the different channels to watch the game with, wish the superbowl would allow that as well!!! i found on Goal Line/Buzzer Beater I didn't have to watch commercials, it was good that way
 
I've also been a college guy, but the NFL has overtaken it for me, I can't stand or stomach what college football has become
 
PokeOLoco said:
I've also been a college guy, but the NFL has overtaken it for me, I can't stand or stomach what college football has become
It makes me sick to agree to this statement. I hate watching all college football but UW. I am so tired of teams like Alabama. There seems to be far more parity in the NFL right now which is mind boggling.
 
It's idiotic to have the semifinal playoff games on New Year's Eve, on the night where most people—in particular your younger demographic—want to be off the couch and not watching TV. I didn't get to see but bits and pieces of either game as I glanced at TVs in bars, because I went out for New Year's Eve. It would be better to have them on New Year's Day, when people are at home, on the couch, many hung over. You have a captive audience. But as long as the Rose Bowl refuses to move off New Year's Day, the semifinals will remain on New Year's Eve unless the Rose Bowl is a part of the semis, just as they were in January 2015. But for the College Football Playoff Committee to think they are going to create some "new tradition" that is going to overtake 200 years of people partying on New Year's Eve is the height of arrogance. It won't happen.
 
I definitely would've been more interested if it hadn't been Alabama in the game. After all those allegations and accusations of their (and a few other teams') boosters paying off recruits and players to go/stay there (including former players admitting to it), NCAA still hasn't said anything at all. Meanwhile, look at what happened to SMU, USC, and even CU when they were involved in crap. Makes me sad when known cheaters keep winning...


Do other teams also cheat? Probably... do I believe Wyoming players and recruits are regularly handed cash by our boosters?
:rofl:
 
ragtimejoe1 said:
laxwyo said:
No one wants to watch Alabama win anything again. College football has lost all parity and its garbage. All pro sports have a mechanism to keep parity whether it's salary cap or luxury tax. The big boys just keep getting and spending more money.

Interesting point. I always think about it as P5 vs G5, but your thought is a good one. Even within the P5, most programs will never sniff a NC or playoff spot due to resource and recruiting discrepancies.

I agree with you. Honestly, it is time for an NFL minor league. If it loses money, that is a cost the NFL absorbs.

College football can continue but the emphasis should switch back to college rather than football. It will never happen, but that is what should happen.

If a minor league NFL existed, it would also weaken the argument about exploiting student athletes. After all, if you aren't good enough to go to the minors, then the name on the front of the jersey is what is selling. (if that makes sense).
I have been preaching this for years. a NFL minor league system would solve the problems of college football. Those who would want to be true student athletes could go to college those who think they are ready out of school and get drafted can go the minor league route. Just like baseball.

But why would the NFL prop up a system that does not make money. The minor league structure does not make MLB teams money but provides a system that is able to evaluate players properly. Let's put the college back in football.
 
I have been preaching this for years. a NFL minor league system would solve the problems of college football. Those who would want to be true student athletes could go to college those who think they are ready out of school and get drafted can go the minor league route. Just like baseball.

Yep. The insanity, ridiculous money, cheating, exploitation, divergence of the haves and the have-nots -- whatever angers you most about college sports -- almost exclusively happens only in the major professional sports where the pros don't run meaningful minor leagues: football and basketball.

If you're an excellent 18 year old baseball or hockey player, you have options. That's even true for soccer and tennis and golf.

But if your sport is basketball or football, you can pretty much forget about anything other than submitting yourself to the university-industrial-sports complex. Colleges -- abetted by the NBA and the NFL -- largely control your options and your future.
 
Not to derail the thread, but basketball needs to work like baseball. Declare right out of high school and go to the D-League, spend two years in college, or spend four years in college. This one and done crap needs to end.
 
WYO1016 said:
Not to derail the thread, but basketball needs to work like baseball. Declare right out of high school and go to the D-League, spend two years in college, or spend four years in college. This one and done crap needs to end.
Exactly. The one and dones don't even WANT to go to college! Let them have a league where they can go, get a paycheck for doing it, and move onto the NBA/NFL. It would just be nice to see athletes who actually want to be a student athlete, not because they are forced to.

This will also keep colleges out of the precarious position of figuring out how to pay college athletes.
 

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