Nov. 9 vs. Fresno State on ESPN

[NowherePoke]

Beaver, Kansas and others.

There is no call for bad manners. Everyone on this board cares about UW, and we can disagree without being disagreeable. Not everyone shares your youthful optimism, or my aged cynicism. Differing opinions are the spice of life.
The Pokes' wins over Northern Colorado, Idaho and USAFA cause us to reach differing conclusions. You see them as foundational to playing for the MWC division crown. Good on you.
I see them as no more than an indication that we are better than one of the worst teams in the FCS and one of the worst teams in FBS.
Last week we lost to a team that has been in existence two years. You see that as nothing more than a temporary letdown. OK. I think that if TxState can dominate our program after two years in the business, and DC has been paid nearly 10 million over 5 years to lead the Cowboys, and Burman has handled 10 times that amount in that time-this loss reinforces my opinion that our program lacks leadership . (other examples of turnarounds due to god leadership that are a bit closer to home include Boise and USU)

In my opinion, we had spotty showings against UNC and Idaho-got off to a slow start and didnt have a complete game in either one, but I was encouraged by the USAFA win. The hallmark of a program on the rise is that they take it one game at a time, get a little better each game, and climb into respectability. Smith looked like a world beater in that game, and the defense and offensive line were improved...In your opinion, that game was validation that Wyoming would contend for the MWC championship. OK, we disagree, no problem...

I think it would be prudent to avoid making claims about rolling the next opponent, destroying the rest of the mountain division and openly worry about the coach jilting UW after one win over a piss poor conference opponent. You don't. Thats OK, we differ.

Bottom line of this post: If you want to pump sunshine about this coach and this team, if you want to drive the bandwagon, have fun. If I want to be a doubting Thomas and sceptic, if I think DC and Burman are pisspoor leaders and need to be replaced thats OK too.
Just dont drive your bandwagon over UW supporters that wont jump on..or call us ridiculous. I'm sure you wouldnt want to be called ridiculous if it turns out we actually DO go 6-6.

I have to admit its fun reading your posts. For me its like listening to a 4 year old tell me about Santa Claus. I wish I could believe the pokes will contend for the MWC championship and that DC is the second coming of Roach.. I really do.... but I just cant.
So please dont come on here and be diagreeable. Doesnt suit you Beaver.

McPeachy, Wyovanian, Doc and I have been around for a while. We are entitled to our opinion-as you are yours...and in my opinion, I've seen great Cowboy football coachers and great cowboy teams, and this aint lookin like anything I remember as being in that category.

The problem is you guys act like you haven't watched another team in the Mountain West play this season. I do not sit here saying that we will be right there for the conference crown out of blind youth optimism, I do it out of watching what we are up against and how good of a team we are. I predicted at the start of the year that we would go 8-4 and I stand by that prediction. The reason for such optimism is we are playing in the worst conference in college football this season, everyone sucks. Fresno is a joke this season, and if you stop their offense twice you win the game, Boise is not that good on both sides of the ball, and USU is vastly overrated. The conference is HORRIBLE, and the Pokes are a decent team that is right there with the top four. I am coming from a position where I have not been a Pokes fan until about 2010 and look at it more from what I see than blind homerism. This board is frustrating this year because we win one game and everyone acts like we are going to the BCS bowl games and we lose one and now everyone thinks we are lucky to win 3 more games in a shit conference with one of the best offenses in the nation. We lost to a Texas State team, that I thought would be a problem from the get go, and frankly they will probably run the table the rest of the way and finish 11-1 (have you seen that schedule). I will stick with my prediction of before the season and I guarantee that we finish 8-4 or better, and if not I will come back and eat lots of crow. But the fact of the matter is we don't play anyone that is very good, and that includes all of the top teams in the conference, if we play a good game we beat anyone in this conference, that is why we say stop overreacting to a loss to a decent enough team in a road game with a 3 and a half hour lightning delay. That might very well be the best team we play all season, and it is most certainly the best defense. We will be fine and we will win at least 8 games.

Texas State, with all due respect to them, are not even the best team we have played this year (that would be Nebraska). They are obviously better than UW (proved it on the field), but their results as a whole are not very good. They barely beat an awful USM team (one that lost 60-7 to Boise and 56-13 to Nebraska) and got handled by Texas Tech (a good team, but unproven at this point). I do think their defense is about as good as we will see all year, but their offense is not even close to a Nebraska, Boise, Fresno, or USU. The fact that we gave up 42 points is a giant red flag.

Teams don't play the same every game obviously and I thought the Pokes played much better, more focused, etc. against Nebraska than against TxSt. That kind of lackluster effort indicates the ability to lose to teams that might be considered weaker (UNM, CSU), particularly when those teams can do the one thing that we cannot stop (run the ball). Smith and the offense will play better in upcoming games, I agree with you there. I see zero reason for optimism on the other side of the ball.

 

[BackHarlowRoad]

I wouldn't say the MWC is the worst conference in football. It's down compared to years past, but it's still not terrible.

We are a very bipolar group of people on this board. We're too high on our ups and way too low on our downs.

Take deep breaths, keep an even keel, cheer for the Pokes and whatever happens, happens. It's not worth an aneurysm.

:thumb:

 

[Wyovanian]

Not buying this after a bad game, especially considering the circumstances. I've watched all the teams and not one of the teams in the MWC sticks out. Not one team. Our two losses have come from teams who only have losses to Top 25 teams. Texas State aren't world beaters, but they got us at the right time and the right place......it was ours to win until that delay.

I'll take your bet Wyovanian....Wyoming finishes better than 6-6. Name your price.

Thinking... can I send you a credit app?

I kead, I kead! Let me think about it for a moment. Thinking a modest bet payable to a worthy cause plus a signature...

 

[kansasCowboy]

Lol... shut up with this sky is falling 6-6 bullshit. Think the pokes are going 3-4 from here on? Wins against NM csu and Hawaii and that's it? Lol....
Lose a game and people are talking about Thompson playing and benching Smith and firing coach Christensen because we can't possibly get better... hahaha my God some of you are ridiculous.

Where did you see this? I don't think any rational person would discuss this.

Now, how would Thompson look at Linebacker though..... (just kidding...sort of)

That came from another thread where someone (I believe) wyovanian, was saying brett can't do it all, and that we need a plan b. Whether that was Thompson coming in and losing his redshirt, or something to that effect. It is on the "embarrassed" thread, because no one responded to my original post about and instead rabbit trailed off on a back and forth between me and McPeach.

And by the way, Wyo87, why are you addressing me in a thread that I haven't even read? Youthful optimism? Wow! Thanks for the compliment. Now I don't feel so old.

 

[WyoAlum1987]

lol, well sonny-odds are damn good that you are younger than me

 

[kansasCowboy]

lol, well sonny-odds are damn good that you are younger than me

:lol: Sonny! I love it.

See, now why can't debates and disagreement be civil like this?

 

[JimmyDimes]

Not buying this after a bad game, especially considering the circumstances. I've watched all the teams and not one of the teams in the MWC sticks out. Not one team. Our two losses have come from teams who only have losses to Top 25 teams. Texas State aren't world beaters, but they got us at the right time and the right place......it was ours to win until that delay.

I'll take your bet Wyovanian....Wyoming finishes better than 6-6. Name your price.

Thinking... can I send you a credit app?

I kead, I kead! Let me think about it for a moment. Thinking a modest bet payable to a worthy cause plus a signature...

Sounds good, just let me know. I probably just doomed the rest of the season because my luck isn't the best. Just think the Pokes are better than what they showed in Texas.

 

[BeaverPoke]

Lol ACS was not a Glenn recruit. Where do people make this shit up from?

 

[SDPokeFan]

Lol... shut up with this sky is falling 6-6 bullshit. Think the pokes are going 3-4 from here on? Wins against NM csu and Hawaii and that's it? Lol....
Lose a game and people are talking about Thompson playing and benching Smith and firing coach Christensen because we can't possibly get better... hahaha my God some of you are ridiculous.

I think it's more who they lost to than the actual loss itself. And it's not like we lost on a last second field goal. A team that has been D-1 for all of 16 games kicked the shit out of us by three touchdowns.

 

[Wyovanian]

Lol... shut up with this sky is falling 6-6 bullshit. Think the pokes are going 3-4 from here on? Wins against NM csu and Hawaii and that's it? Lol....
Lose a game and people are talking about Thompson playing and benching Smith and firing coach Christensen because we can't possibly get better... hahaha my God some of you are ridiculous.

Where did you see this? I don't think any rational person would discuss this.

Now, how would Thompson look at Linebacker though..... (just kidding...sort of)

That came from another thread where someone (I believe) wyovanian, was saying brett can't do it all, and that we need a plan b. Whether that was Thompson coming in and losing his redshirt, or something to that effect. It is on the "embarrassed" thread, because no one responded to my original post about and instead rabbit trailed off on a back and forth between me and McPeach.

And by the way, Wyo87, why are you addressing me in a thread that I haven't even read? Youthful optimism? Wow! Thanks for the compliment. Now I don't feel so old.

It's astounding how wrong you are on so many "facts".

 

[Wyovanian]

Not buying this after a bad game, especially considering the circumstances. I've watched all the teams and not one of the teams in the MWC sticks out. Not one team. Our two losses have come from teams who only have losses to Top 25 teams. Texas State aren't world beaters, but they got us at the right time and the right place......it was ours to win until that delay.

I'll take your bet Wyovanian....Wyoming finishes better than 6-6. Name your price.

Thinking... can I send you a credit app?

I kead, I kead! Let me think about it for a moment. Thinking a modest bet payable to a worthy cause plus a signature...

Sounds good, just let me know. I probably just doomed the rest of the season because my luck isn't the best. Just think the Pokes are better than what they showed in Texas.

There are two types of people in the world- the lucky and the good. I too wish I wasn't good. So, between us, this just might work out well for the 'Pokes! (I honestly hope I lose...)

 

[kansasCowboy]

Lol... shut up with this sky is falling 6-6 bullshit. Think the pokes are going 3-4 from here on? Wins against NM csu and Hawaii and that's it? Lol....
Lose a game and people are talking about Thompson playing and benching Smith and firing coach Christensen because we can't possibly get better... hahaha my God some of you are ridiculous.

Where did you see this? I don't think any rational person would discuss this.

Now, how would Thompson look at Linebacker though..... (just kidding...sort of)

That came from another thread where someone (I believe) wyovanian, was saying brett can't do it all, and that we need a plan b. Whether that was Thompson coming in and losing his redshirt, or something to that effect. It is on the "embarrassed" thread, because no one responded to my original post about and instead rabbit trailed off on a back and forth between me and McPeach.

And by the way, Wyo87, why are you addressing me in a thread that I haven't even read? Youthful optimism? Wow! Thanks for the compliment. Now I don't feel so old.

It's astounding how wrong you are on so many "facts".

You are right, it wasn't you. It was mwcfan. But please tell me, what other "many" facts am I wrong about?

 

[Wyovanian]

Lol... shut up with this sky is falling 6-6 bullshit. Think the pokes are going 3-4 from here on? Wins against NM csu and Hawaii and that's it? Lol....
Lose a game and people are talking about Thompson playing and benching Smith and firing coach Christensen because we can't possibly get better... hahaha my God some of you are ridiculous.

Where did you see this? I don't think any rational person would discuss this.

Now, how would Thompson look at Linebacker though..... (just kidding...sort of)

That came from another thread where someone (I believe) wyovanian, was saying brett can't do it all, and that we need a plan b. Whether that was Thompson coming in and losing his redshirt, or something to that effect. It is on the "embarrassed" thread, because no one responded to my original post about and instead rabbit trailed off on a back and forth between me and McPeach.

And by the way, Wyo87, why are you addressing me in a thread that I haven't even read? Youthful optimism? Wow! Thanks for the compliment. Now I don't feel so old.

It's astounding how wrong you are on so many "facts".

You are right, it wasn't you. It was mwcfan. But please tell me, what other "many" facts am I wrong about?

The London Underground was not a political movement and the central message of Buddhism is not "every man for himself"!

 

[kansasCowboy]

What? I'm done with you.

 

[Wyovanian]

What? I'm done with you.

Works every time!
:thumb:

 

[ZapPoke]

This is great. I am getting to see more games this year than I ever have since I moved to Texas. Big advantage for the Pokes playing at home in November. Was anybody else at the game in November 2000 when the temp was six below zero? I know there couldn't have been more than 300 people in the stands. Patrick Chukwurah's last game as a Cowboy, we could sure use another guy like him on defense! That was the only game I ever heard the announcer blurt an expletive. Poke holder bobbled the ball on a FG attempt and the stadium announcer said "Oh Shit!". Pokes were so bad that year it was probably the highlight of the night.

 

[McPeachy]

This is great. I am getting to see more games this year than I ever have since I moved to Texas. Big advantage for the Pokes playing at home in November. Was anybody else at the game in November 2000 when the temp was six below zero? I know there couldn't have been more than 300 people in the stands. Patrick Chukwurah's last game as a Cowboy, we could sure use another guy like him on defense! That was the only game I ever heard the announcer blurt an expletive. Poke holder bobbled the ball on a FG attempt and the stadium announcer said "Oh Shit!". Pokes were so bad that year it was probably the highlight of the night.

Classic! I was at that game, and remember the "oh shit" when the mic was accidentally left on. And you are spot on with Chukwurah - loved that guy (and Peprah as well).

 

[wellpoke]

I was at that game. Band actually left at halftime cause it was so cold. We put the equipment away and a few of us came back to watch the rest of the game.

Classic!

 

[COS Cowboy]

I was at that game too! Don't remember the open mic moment though. Must have missed it over my chattering teeth.

 

[Aaron]

Some people on here and the other boards really make it hard to enjoy Wyoming fans :|