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Not so Special Forces [7220 Report]

The kicking really gets to me. I'm over 30 and not in the shape of my life, but I can still kick a soccer ball 60-70 yards in the air without much of a problem. Not sure how that compares to a football, but I always thought they flew quite a bit better... and yeah, sure, I've played soccer off and on for over half my life (can't stand watching pro soccer, though).
 
Asmodeanreborn said:
The kicking really gets to me. I'm over 30 and not in the shape of my life, but I can still kick a soccer ball 60-70 yards in the air without much of a problem. Not sure how that compares to a football, but I always thought they flew quite a bit better... and yeah, sure, I've played soccer off and on for over half my life (can't stand watching pro soccer, though).
Playing and watching soccer are 2 completely different things for me as well. Though if you're European, you'd think there was nothing more exciting than watching a bunch of guys kick the ball back and forth with a score of 0-0 for 55 minutes and only ever getting close to the net about 3 times during those first 55 minutes. :thumbdown:
 
fromolwyoming said:
Asmodeanreborn said:
The kicking really gets to me. I'm over 30 and not in the shape of my life, but I can still kick a soccer ball 60-70 yards in the air without much of a problem. Not sure how that compares to a football, but I always thought they flew quite a bit better... and yeah, sure, I've played soccer off and on for over half my life (can't stand watching pro soccer, though).
Playing and watching soccer are 2 completely different things for me as well. Though if you're European, you'd think there was nothing more exciting than watching a bunch of guys kick the ball back and forth with a score of 0-0 for 55 minutes and only ever getting close to the net about 3 times during those first 55 minutes. and then fall down and pretend to get hurt :thumbdown:
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I'd say that article pretty much sums it up. When I watch games on TV on saturday I pay attention to their kickoffs and most of them are to or in the endzone and those are at sea level. Those short kick-offs actually worry me more than the missed field goals. As for the punt returning, I'm not sure what to make of that. That punt that McNeil caught on the 1 or 2 was mind boggling. No idea what that kid was thinking. But both returners look nervous back there and we can't have that. They have to concentrate on the ball first.
 
fromolwyoming said:
Playing and watching soccer are 2 completely different things for me as well. Though if you're European, you'd think there was nothing more exciting than watching a bunch of guys kick the ball back and forth with a score of 0-0 for 55 minutes and only ever getting close to the net about 3 times during those first 55 minutes. :thumbdown:
I AM European. Still can't stand watching pro soccer. It annoys the crap out of me on so many levels. I don't mind the low scoring stuff, it's the diving and faking injury that really gets to me. It wasn't so bad at first, but then even my own national team started doing it. Guess you HAVE to do it to succeed... also, the lack of any kind of salary caps make it so that there's like 5-10 teams that dominate everybody else. Think Man United, Barcelona, Inter, etc... makes it even more pointless to care about.


So yeah... I play for conditioning, because it's hell of a lot more fun than just running. One of these days I'll be brave enough to start playing ice hockey again, though I need a LOT of skating practice before I get to that point.
 
Oh, I was going to ask if anybody here know how different it is to kick a football vs a soccer ball as far as distance goes? I know accuracy is different, but I think I could get used to that ;)
 
Asmodeanreborn said:
Oh, I was going to ask if anybody here know how different it is to kick a football vs a soccer ball as far as distance goes? I know accuracy is different, but I think I could get used to that ;)
Quite a bit. The shape really affects it.
 
fromolwyoming said:
Asmodeanreborn said:
Oh, I was going to ask if anybody here know how different it is to kick a football vs a soccer ball as far as distance goes? I know accuracy is different, but I think I could get used to that ;)
Quite a bit. The shape really affects it.

With the same kicking motion and power, which one goes farther? I guess that's my real question...
 
I'm one of those kickers who never played soccer. Nothing about soccer is interesting to me. I kind of stumbled into kicking as a child. We moved when I was about 12 and in the backyard was a goalpost, so I took as a sign that I should start kicking footballs through it.

I have coached many high school kickers who have come over from soccer. The first thing I work on is getting rid of is that "sweeping" motion soccer players tend to kick the ball with. In football you want to snap down at the ball and wedge it upwards while keeping your hips squared up to the goalpost. At this point I'm now a better instructor than kicker. I have been fortunate enough to kick with some of the best kickers and punters to ever play the game. So you learn a thing or two.

I would help Sullivan for free. I know exactly what he is doing wrong.
 
Asmodeanreborn said:
fromolwyoming said:
Asmodeanreborn said:
Oh, I was going to ask if anybody here know how different it is to kick a football vs a soccer ball as far as distance goes? I know accuracy is different, but I think I could get used to that ;)
Quite a bit. The shape really affects it.

With the same kicking motion and power, which one goes farther? I guess that's my real question...
Hard to say. Would need to do some testing.
 
cheypoke said:
I'd say that article pretty much sums it up. When I watch games on TV on saturday I pay attention to their kickoffs and most of them are to or in the endzone and those are at sea level. Those short kick-offs actually worry me more than the missed field goals. As for the punt returning, I'm not sure what to make of that. That punt that McNeil caught on the 1 or 2 was mind boggling. No idea what that kid was thinking. But both returners look nervous back there and we can't have that. They have to concentrate on the ball first.

McNeill might be the biggest pussy on the gridiron on any given game day. He's missed and dropped a lot of passes because he hears footsteps and he's always looking for the sideline. Against Nebraska, he slid on a return when it looked like he was going to get tackled, he dropped an easy 3rd down pass because he was looking for his coverage- which resulted in a stalled drive, and he blind-sided a Nebraska defender away from the play after the whistle that cost us fifteen yards and stalled a good drive. He's a pretty boy, afraid to take a hit.
 
Cornpoke said:
would help Sullivan for free. I know exactly what he is doing wrong.

If that's true, get your butt over to practice and talk to Coach. Or call the AD's office. At this point, Christensen needs to take whatever help he can get to get this kid kicking the ball well.

Purely out of curiosity, what are your thoughts about why the kid doesn't do as well in game situations as he seems to in practice? Nerves?

GO POKES!
 

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