NFL Network televising pro day

[joshvanklomp]

I think this fan base is still getting used to having a terrible defense. Whoever the QB will be won't have to score 50 points per game in order to get a W. That number might not even be 25 in a lot of weeks.

This team will win far more than 2 games, no matter who is at QB.

 

[LanderPoke]

This is wild just the amount of exposure the program has been getting is some big time stuff. Thank you Josh Allen. It's definitely going to get some extra eyes on a few of his teammates as well.

This isn’t just Josh Allen. Yes, he is a big reason why 32 NFL teams will be represented in our Pro Day, but our coaching staff has networked and put the program in a position to do so.

Coach Bohl and staff are the real deal. We need to hold on to them as long as possible!

The real deal huh? Same guy who is 6-20 without Josh Allen and who’s most recent non Allen game was one of the worst in program history? We shall see this year.

Dude the team was down to freshman d linemen. They just got elimated from the conference championship game. They played with absolute zero energy. Had we beat Fresno the week before which we had our chance. We would of beat Sjsu by 3 touchdowns without Josh. The defense that showed up against CMU is not the one one who played SJSU. Not a representation of the state of the football program. SJSU ISNT FCS they recruit kids that want to win too. They struck while the iron was hot and when the mule was kicked in the ass. Josh Allen lost to EMU twice which is more embarrassing to me honestly.

I don't think anyone would argue the bolded part. That's not exactly an endorsement of the coaching staff. A conference game and they couldn't bother to get energized about it?

SJSU is not FCS, they were worse than many (most?) FCS teams last year. Bohl has lost to FCS teams too of course.

In terms of Eastern Michigan, your comment makes me wonder if you were following the program at all during that time. The first loss to Eastern Michigan was pretty much on par with the SJSU loss. That was an awful EMU team that beat us in Laramie. Awful. Do you remember the key detail regarding that game? Josh Allen started, went 3/4 for 32 yards and had 3 carries for 40 yards before getting injured (and subsequently missing the rest of the season). Nick Smith replaced him and went 3/13 for 0 yards (yes, zero).

The second EMU loss was on the road against a bowl bound EMU team. Still a bad loss, but nowhere near the SJSU loss or EMU home loss.

It's not always on the coaching staff when players perform like shit. There was absolutely nothing to play for. We were potato bowl bound from the end of the Fresno game. San Jose still has 20 more scholarships to hand out than any FCS program. That loss isn't even close to the North Dakota loss. Or EMU.

Yes I know Josh got hurt against EMU. The first time. However he did technically lose to emu twice. That team hadnt won a road game since 1988. That program had been getting the shit kicked out of them for 30 years.

Look I agree is was definitely embarrassing losing to San Jose. I just don't think it's a true reflection of the program without Josh. Specially when the week before were going toe to toe against one of the Conference Championship participants.

That's a generous description of the Fresno game. We were shutout for the first 57+ minutes in that game.

The defense is good, and frankly was even good against SJSU (they were just on the field too long). The problem is the offense.

In terms of SJSU, I don't know what to say other than to point you to their results. They weren't just a bad team, they were a special kind of awful. They gave up 61 to USU, 59 to Nevada, etc. We could barely score on them.

In their 11 FBS games other than against UW, they lost by an average of 47-14. They went 0-11 and lost them all by at least 2 scores. They gave up 50 points in 5 of the 11 games, 40+ in 9 of the 11. The other two they gave up 37 and 27. We scored 17.

Mostly, it really bothers me that you are blaming Josh Allen for the EMU loss at home. He got hurt in the first quarter and he was playing very well before he got hurt.

I mean seriously, go back and look at the play by play for that game. Josh started and drove the Pokes down for a TD on their first drive. On the second drive he had them driving and he ran for a first down at the EMU 20 on the play that injured him. What the hell else would you like him to do? He only played 1 full series (for a TD) and a partial series (was driving for a TD).

Agree! IMO all the offensive coaches should have been given their walking papers after the abominations that were Fresno and SJSU. Embarrassing, Vigen!

 

[Asmodeanreborn]

I think this fan base is still getting used to having a terrible defense. Whoever the QB will be won't have to score 50 points per game in order to get a W. That number might not even be 25 in a lot of weeks.

This team will win far more than 2 games, no matter who is at QB.

Unless the offensive line improves radically along with our running game, we won't win more than 2 if Smith starts. And we'll only win because Smith is handing the ball off 9 out of 10 snaps.

 

[poke_addict]

I think this fan base is still getting used to having a terrible defense. Whoever the QB will be won't have to score 50 points per game in order to get a W. That number might not even be 25 in a lot of weeks.

This team will win far more than 2 games, no matter who is at QB.

I'm not I completely understand how a great defense can help an average or below average QB. There was 1 game last year we would have had to score more than 24 points to win. 8 or 9 of those were 14 or less.

We have never had a D line that was as aggressive or deep as we will next year. The secondary is in good hands with Hull and Coldon. Moving Tyler Hall to Nickel is a fantastic move. We have the best safety in the Country and another 4 year starter playing next to him. Logan was 4th in the country last season in solo tackles. There is legitimate talent everywhere you look on the defense. Also they are very quick and aggressive. Not a unit any offense will want to go against.

We just need a guy that will protect the football. I won't think it's the end of the world if Nick starts. However I do think Tyler is a lot more Josh Allen like. His high school tape is very impressive and he makes plays out of nothing similar to Josh. Ran a pro style offense. He went against our first team D all last season running the practice squad. Also got to travel with the team and prepare like a starter last season. I honestly think he is the guy.

 

[Cuttslam]

I hope your right and Tyler is the guy. A potential 4 year starter has a nice ring to it.

 

[stymeman]

This truly is great exposure for UW and i truly welcome it and wish him well. Just hope he does things within his ways and means and doesn't do too much for the cameras and extra hype. It has been fun to see the NFL come calling more often these past few years. We all know what he's made of and what he can do, but the NFL is truly a different animal especially coming from UW, but that's probably what they said with Wentz at NDSU as well. Next year will truly be an interesting year to see what Coach Bohl can do and what those recruits can do as well. Hopefully it's better than 6-6 and the medioracy that we're all used to, unfortunately. These 7-5 8-4 season have been kinda fun for a change. Just wish us smaller schools had a chance to make a playoff or better bowl on occassion. It's been a fun ride. Get em Josh & Go Pokes

 

[calpoke25]

I think this fan base is still getting used to having a terrible defense. Whoever the QB will be won't have to score 50 points per game in order to get a W. That number might not even be 25 in a lot of weeks.

This team will win far more than 2 games, no matter who is at QB.

We will not win very many games if the offense fails to score at least 3 TDs in a game. Our defense is good, but we aren’t however the 2000 Baltimore Ravens good.

 

[calpoke25]

This is wild just the amount of exposure the program has been getting is some big time stuff. Thank you Josh Allen. It's definitely going to get some extra eyes on a few of his teammates as well.

This isn’t just Josh Allen. Yes, he is a big reason why 32 NFL teams will be represented in our Pro Day, but our coaching staff has networked and put the program in a position to do so.

Coach Bohl and staff are the real deal. We need to hold on to them as long as possible!

The real deal huh? Same guy who is 6-20 without Josh Allen and who’s most recent non Allen game was one of the worst in program history? We shall see this year.

I don't understand this critique at all. I think you could say the same for almost any coach "Well if it wasn't for the most talented players on his team, his team would be garbage" All coaches rely on recruiting great talent. I see a positive projection for this team but I also see that this team has it's major flaws and I put that on the coaches as well but I also acknowledge that Nick Saben would have those same challenges. We love laramie, if you are from wyoming you love laramie. But if you are used to an urban population Laramie is a strange place to land. It will always be a major hurdle to recruit top end athletes to wyoming for that reason. Wyoming has not had a complete team since who knows when. We have had great offenses at times, great defenses at times, but never a complete team. If I chose great offense with poor defense or a great defense with a poor offense I would choose to have a defense that keeps you in every game. Josh Allen was a big part of us winning last year but my hats off to the dominant defense created and coached up by this staff for being a bowl team.

The critique is simply that by the end of year 4 we should have a program in place that can beat the worst team in the country by 4 touchdowns regardless of who is playing Quaterback. Of course a team will be worse without their best player. Should that team (otherwise relatively healthy) lose to SJSU? To me it shows a program that was built on a couple star players but otherwise is lacking across the board. I hope to be proven wrong this fall but it reeks of a 4-8, 5-7 team.

 

[NowherePoke]

I think this fan base is still getting used to having a terrible defense. Whoever the QB will be won't have to score 50 points per game in order to get a W. That number might not even be 25 in a lot of weeks.

This team will win far more than 2 games, no matter who is at QB.

I'm not I completely understand how a great defense can help an average or below average QB. There was 1 game last year we would have had to score more than 24 points to win. 8 or 9 of those were 14 or less.

We have never had a D line that was as aggressive or deep as we will next year. The secondary is in good hands with Hull and Coldon. Moving Tyler Hall to Nickel is a fantastic move. We have the best safety in the Country and another 4 year starter playing next to him. Logan was 4th in the country last season in solo tackles. There is legitimate talent everywhere you look on the defense. Also they are very quick and aggressive. Not a unit any offense will want to go against.

We just need a guy that will protect the football. I won't think it's the end of the world if Nick starts. However I do think Tyler is a lot more Josh Allen like. His high school tape is very impressive and he makes plays out of nothing similar to Josh. Ran a pro style offense. He went against our first team D all last season running the practice squad. Also got to travel with the team and prepare like a starter last season. I honestly think he is the guy.

The QB position always gets a lot of attention, but I don't think necessarily that Nick Smith at QB is a problem. The problem, from my point of view, is that no matter who the QB is they are being put in a position to fail.

We did it last year with Josh, but he is so good that he still made some plays. However, it is unreasonable to expect Nick Smith or a Freshman with no experience to come in and make plays when he is always facing 3rd and 9 without protection and without playmakers on the perimeter.

The offense was awful most of last year even with Josh Allen. Whether it is Smith or Vander Wal, until we fix the rest of the offense (scheme, personnel, etc.), it will be a slog.

The defense is good, but as we saw against FSU and especially SJSU, they can't do it all by themselves.

I can already see the storm coming. The issue this year will be turnover differential. Last year, we had a tremendous TO differential. That isn't generally sustainable. Now, our defense still projects to be strong and with the type of pass rush we have they will force some turnovers. The problem is on the other side. Either Smith or a Freshman will likely have far more turnovers than what Allen produced. When you continually put a limited or inexperienced QB in 3rd and long with poor protection and no open receivers bad things are going to happen. The result will be putting the defense in bad position (short fields, etc.) on a more frequent basis.

Our defense might be even better this upcoming year, but will likely give up more points as our offense will turn the ball over at a high rate and put them in a bad position.

A lot of parallels with this team and late Joe Glenn era teams.

 

[Asmodeanreborn]

I think a LOT of the SJSU loss can be put squarely on Nick Smith's shoulders. Yeah, Woods wasn't exactly a star either, but Overstreet had over 100 yards, and the defense played solid. Smith missed receivers by several yards at least a dozen times and had two(I think?) pretty bad interceptions.
It was probably THE worst QB play I've ever seen at Wyoming (that includes Stutzriem), regardless of what the rest of the offense did or didn't do.