New coach…

[ZapPoke]

Bohl is like a politician and not a very good one at that.

 

[WyoVaquero]

Hazelton and Leonhard would be good choices. Scalley and morris and interesting candidates as well.

 

[ZapPoke]

There has to be a "Linder" type out there, that would want to step into what is WYO football - with the facilities, the support, etc., and turn this bitch around. Has to be.

For starters:

Morgan Scalley
Jim Leonhard
Alex Grinch (do I dare say the one from the DC pipeline)?
Scottie Hazelton
Derek Mason
Andy Ludwig
Pete Kaligis
Eric Morris

Etc., Etc., Etc...

will guarantee Derek Mason wouldn't want to coach in the state of WY

the state has some things about it that make it great, also has some things that make it extremely unattractive to people....especially people of color. Lotta folks on here will get upset about that, but it is simply a fact

state needs to get a hate crime law on the books and diversify its economy beyond fossil fuels (if they do this the university won't keep having to trim its budget by 8% every other year). Would go a long way to improving the overall reputation of the university and the athletics department's ability to recruit against their conference peers

Wow there is a lot in these two paragraphs to deconstruct.

You think Wyoming is unattractive to people of color. I can point you to a study that lists the top ten most racist states. The only mention of Wyoming was when they revealed that South Dakota is second most racist. They said this was surprising since SD is right next to Wyoming “one of the least racist”.

You think we need a hate crime law. What does a hate crime law accomplish other than give warm fuzzies to the people who pass it? My neighbor is a gay man. The only person who beat him up was his former live in boyfriend. Can a gay man be charged with a hate crime for beating up another gay man?

You say we need to diversify the economy. What would you suggest? The only thing we have to offer are hard working people and natural resources. Even then we come up short on having much water. Downstream states have locked up the rights to much of it.

You have also said the university has trouble recruiting the best people because Wyoming is considered backwards. I would like to hear your definition of “the best people”. More than likely these best people aren’t the kind most Wyoming residents want bringing in all their “progressive” philosophies.

Wyoming is what America was.

 

[307bball]

Wyoming is what America was.

As a blunt generalization, I think that is true. As it relates to being an attractive destination to the next generation of students, athletes, businesses, etc,.... That is an overall negative. I'm not saying it's all negative.... Just that, in general, up and comers want what's they think is next... Not what used to be.

 

[McPeachy]

Wyoming is what America was.

As a blunt generalization, I think that is true. As it relates to being an attractive destination to the next generation of students, athletes, businesses, etc,.... That is an overall negative. I'm not saying it's all negative.... Just that, in general, up and comers want what's they think is next... Not what used to be.

On that note (recruiting athletes):

If McPeachy were the recruiting coordinator or similar, I would go after people that NEED Wyoming...for whatever reason that need is (out of big city life, out of trouble, education priorities, etc.). Secondly, I would heavily emphasize playing time and the transfer portal (I would have 15+ athletes on campus for spring ball that are transfers, and more in the summer), with almost guaranteed PT. Lastly, I would shift / emphasize more recruiting to the upper mid-west, upper north, upper east coast, and similar areas.

 

[307bball]

Wyoming is what America was.

As a blunt generalization, I think that is true. As it relates to being an attractive destination to the next generation of students, athletes, businesses, etc,.... That is an overall negative. I'm not saying it's all negative.... Just that, in general, up and comers want what's they think is next... Not what used to be.

On that note (recruiting athletes):

If McPeachy were the recruiting coordinator or similar, I would go after people that NEED Wyoming...for whatever reason that need is (out of big city life, out of trouble, education priorities, etc.). Secondly, I would heavily emphasize playing time and the transfer portal (I would have 15+ athletes on campus for spring ball that are transfers, and more in the summer), with almost guaranteed PT. Lastly, I would shift / emphasize more recruiting to the upper mid-west, upper north, upper east coast, and similar areas.

This is the answer...well maybe not in specifics but in general... you have to find your niche. My personal opinion is that Wyoming has a problem with just doing things a certain way because that is the way it has always been done. Times change, circumstances change .... embrace it and move forward. In the college football environment, all of the things that brought success 30 years ago are irrelevant, not because those things don't work, but because everybody copies the successful programs. Look at Nebraska, they truly had a strength and conditioning advantage in their heyday. Now even the FCS programs are doing the stuff that Nebraska did back then. As McPeachy points out it also applies to how you market yourself... but you can't just do what worked in the '90s and expect it to be successful today.

 

[Old-Bull]

Wyoming is what America was.

As a blunt generalization, I think that is true. As it relates to being an attractive destination to the next generation of students, athletes, businesses, etc,.... That is an overall negative. I'm not saying it's all negative.... Just that, in general, up and comers want what's they think is next... Not what used to be.

On that note (recruiting athletes):

If McPeachy were the recruiting coordinator or similar, I would go after people that NEED Wyoming...for whatever reason that need is (out of big city life, out of trouble, education priorities, etc.). Secondly, I would heavily emphasize playing time and the transfer portal (I would have 15+ athletes on campus for spring ball that are transfers, and more in the summer), with almost guaranteed PT. Lastly, I would shift / emphasize more recruiting to the upper mid-west, upper north, upper east coast, and similar areas.

That's exactly what the basketball and wrestling staffs are doing. Like Sundance Wicks says, you have to know who you are and know who you aren't. We aren't going to get the guys that want to be part of the "scene". We need to recruit guys that live the sport they're playing and would rather be practicing then going to a dance club.

Winning definitely helps. So does adapting and being innovative.

The Bohl staff has definitely found some diamonds in the rough and helped them get to the NFL. That's the one thing they've been exceptional at is loading the NFL with Wyoming guys that can compete. I think they're missing too often though. Recruiting rankings aren't always right. They are sometimes. The football staff has yet to have a top 3 MWC recruiting class in nine years here. Branch had the ninth highest ranked class in the country this year, including a world champion. Linder and staff had their 2nd top 3 MWC class in 2 years on the job. Branch and Linder don't make excuses and they don't settle. They have a profile that fits and works, and they target guys that are being recruited by big programs.

I'm still a firm believer that Bohl's offense would work if we had better athletes than the majority of teams we're playing. It worked at NDSU. It worked with Christensen's passing offense leftovers, we averaged almost 35 points a game.

I don't think we're getting the athletes we need and I don't think that's going to change under this staff. That's why I think we need a change. After nine years, if it hasn't happened yet, it's probably not going to happen.

 

[307bball]

I don't think we're getting the athletes we need and I don't think that's going to change under this staff. That's why I think we need a change. After nine years, if it hasn't happened yet, it's probably not going to happen.

+1000

It seems like, right now, that Wyoming is not an attractive place for football recruits and it shows. There was a hot minute when it seemed like our football program was pulling itself out of the mire of this century but that was just a smokescreen.

I don't follow the wrestling as close as some but I do feel comfortable commenting on Basketball. By all appearances, Linder is checking all the boxes so far...But I acknowledge that it's not impossible that he suffers the same malaise that have afflicted Wyoming athletics programs for my entire adult life.

 

[WestWYOPoke]

Jim Leonhard is a non-starter. He's already turned down head coach offers at Power 5 schools (and turned down an NFL DC job) for more money than Wyo can afford. If he leaves Wisconsin, it'll be a big program with a boatload of cash.

Hazleton however, is more realistic.

 

[WyoVaquero]

Watching all these games and highlights and all these offenses moving up and down the field. Then we watch the pokes pass for 80 yards a game.

 

[laxwyo]

Watching all these games and highlights and all these offenses moving up and down the field. Then we watch the pokes pass for 80 yards a game.

CSU has 96 yards against michigan with12 minutes to go in 3rd.

 

[WyoVaquero]

What could we pay a guy like hazleton ?

 

[Wyovanian]

Wyoming is what America was.

As a blunt generalization, I think that is true. As it relates to being an attractive destination to the next generation of students, athletes, businesses, etc,.... That is an overall negative. I'm not saying it's all negative.... Just that, in general, up and comers want what's they think is next... Not what used to be.

On that note (recruiting athletes):

If McPeachy were the recruiting coordinator or similar, I would go after people that NEED Wyoming...for whatever reason that need is (out of big city life, out of trouble, education priorities, etc.). Secondly, I would heavily emphasize playing time and the transfer portal (I would have 15+ athletes on campus for spring ball that are transfers, and more in the summer), with almost guaranteed PT. Lastly, I would shift / emphasize more recruiting to the upper mid-west, upper north, upper east coast, and similar areas.

That's exactly what the basketball and wrestling staffs are doing. Like Sundance Wicks says, you have to know who you are and know who you aren't. We aren't going to get the guys that want to be part of the "scene". We need to recruit guys that live the sport they're playing and would rather be practicing then going to a dance club.

Winning definitely helps. So does adapting and being innovative.

The Bohl staff has definitely found some diamonds in the rough and helped them get to the NFL. That's the one thing they've been exceptional at is loading the NFL with Wyoming guys that can compete. I think they're missing too often though. Recruiting rankings aren't always right. They are sometimes. The football staff has yet to have a top 3 MWC recruiting class in nine years here. Branch had the ninth highest ranked class in the country this year, including a world champion. Linder and staff had their 2nd top 3 MWC class in 2 years on the job. Branch and Linder don't make excuses and they don't settle. They have a profile that fits and works, and they target guys that are being recruited by big programs.

I'm still a firm believer that Bohl's offense would work if we had better athletes than the majority of teams we're playing. It worked at NDSU. It worked with Christensen's passing offense leftovers, we averaged almost 35 points a game.

I don't think we're getting the athletes we need and I don't think that's going to change under this staff. That's why I think we need a change. After nine years, if it hasn't happened yet, it's probably not going to happen.

I think Wyoming's "tradition" has always been a great deal of what I call the Spaghetti Strategy- throw it all against the wall and see what sticks.

McPeachy and I wore bore witness to a manifestation of this one evening with Del Wight, our old DC under Roach. After a liberal quantity of alcohol, he proceeded to inform us that he had "...the easiest job in College Football. All I have to do is keep the other team under thirty-eight points." That sauce helped keep some of the spaghetti stuck to the wall. Of course, it helps if your spaghetti is fully cooked. Not sure that's the case lately...

 

[Outlaw Arthur Morgan]

Wyoming is what America was.

As a blunt generalization, I think that is true. As it relates to being an attractive destination to the next generation of students, athletes, businesses, etc,.... That is an overall negative. I'm not saying it's all negative.... Just that, in general, up and comers want what's they think is next... Not what used to be.

On that note (recruiting athletes):

If McPeachy were the recruiting coordinator or similar, I would go after people that NEED Wyoming...for whatever reason that need is (out of big city life, out of trouble, education priorities, etc.). Secondly, I would heavily emphasize playing time and the transfer portal (I would have 15+ athletes on campus for spring ball that are transfers, and more in the summer), with almost guaranteed PT. Lastly, I would shift / emphasize more recruiting to the upper mid-west, upper north, upper east coast, and similar areas.

That's exactly what the basketball and wrestling staffs are doing. Like Sundance Wicks says, you have to know who you are and know who you aren't. We aren't going to get the guys that want to be part of the "scene". We need to recruit guys that live the sport they're playing and would rather be practicing then going to a dance club.

Winning definitely helps. So does adapting and being innovative.

The Bohl staff has definitely found some diamonds in the rough and helped them get to the NFL. That's the one thing they've been exceptional at is loading the NFL with Wyoming guys that can compete. I think they're missing too often though. Recruiting rankings aren't always right. They are sometimes. The football staff has yet to have a top 3 MWC recruiting class in nine years here. Branch had the ninth highest ranked class in the country this year, including a world champion. Linder and staff had their 2nd top 3 MWC class in 2 years on the job. Branch and Linder don't make excuses and they don't settle. They have a profile that fits and works, and they target guys that are being recruited by big programs.

I'm still a firm believer that Bohl's offense would work if we had better athletes than the majority of teams we're playing. It worked at NDSU. It worked with Christensen's passing offense leftovers, we averaged almost 35 points a game.

I don't think we're getting the athletes we need and I don't think that's going to change under this staff. That's why I think we need a change. After nine years, if it hasn't happened yet, it's probably not going to happen.

I think Wyoming's "tradition" has always been a great deal of what I call the Spaghetti Strategy- throw it all against the wall and see what sticks.

McPeachy and I wore bore witness to a manifestation of this one evening with Del Wight, our old DC under Roach. After a liberal quantity of alcohol, he proceeded to inform us that he had "...the easiest job in College Football. All I have to do is keep the other team under thirty-eight points." That sauce helped keep some of the spaghetti stuck to the wall. Of course, it helps if your spaghetti is fully cooked. Not sure that's the case lately...

Wait a second. Didn't Tiller's DC say "I just have to keep the opposing team under 30 points or something?" Something's off here - and its probably my memory.