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NDSU FB

MrTitleist said:
FCS schools are trending that way.. at least, the high end schools. Many schools are poor and barely get 500-2000 people at their home games. The Big Sky runs the gamut.. at the top, Montana/MSU average 25,000 and 17,000 at their home games, at the bottom Southern Utah and Northern Colorado average around 1000-2000. Montana is building a HATC like complex, construction underway.. only a $14 million dollar complex compared to Wyoming's $44 million.

Conferences like the NEC, MEAC have poor ($$$) teams, terrible attendance. Big Sky, MVFC, and CAA are the FCS equivalent to SEC, ACC, PAC12.

I would probably say a little both to your second statement.
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So, we would agree that football stadium is upper end FCS? After that and for other facilities, I've found nothing that really ranks the FCS schools, so I don't know.

Regarding budgets, here is NDSU compared to a few playoff teams as well as some upper and lower teams in their division. It looks to me like for football stadium and budgets, NDSU is definitely upper end of FCS.

Team/total budget/football budget (all in millions)
NDSU /22 /4.6
UNI /17 /3.9
Jacksonville St. /12.2 /3.5
Charleston So. /9.3 /2.9
Montana /18.9 /5
Illinois St /26.2 /4.1
Missouri St. /16 /3.4
 
MrTitleist said:
as we've seen in the MW, having a training center, indoor practice facility, etc are what make or break teams.
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At the risk of derailing the thread, is this really true for football? Over the past 10 years, have our facilities been at the bottom of the MWC?

Not arguing, but sometimes I think budgets and salaries are more important than facilities as long as the facilities are adequate.
 
I think it was sarcasm on his part lol... I think we probably have the 2nd or 3rd best football facilities in the MW... but our coaching salaries and overall spending are :shit:
 
As a person in Fargo watching NDSU success and also hoping for Coach Bohl's success in Wyoming as I am an advocate of moving on and accepting new challenges, versus staying in the status quo.

Since Coach Bohl has left and the team has won the past two years, the focus has gone away from Coach Bohl and to the "culture" and the "program" of the past few years. So its somewhat of a revisionist history, trying to downplay what Coach Bohl did, because many locals are still pissed that he left. Realize, in 2008/9, before the playoff run, and pre championship run, many wanted Coach Bohl gone. Take it a step further back, with the Babich era, they ran Coach Babich out of town. So it was approaching 20 years without an NDSU championship.

Coach Bohl fixed that. We know the story, he left and created a bunch of hurt feelings. The people he brought in and his recruits won the past year. Coach Klieman, has done a great job and his recruits are very good. He deserves a lot of credit, will get it and hopefully will get an opportunity like coach Bohl.

Fast forward to Wyoming. It takes time. He has an approach that isn't glamourous, but it worked. He motivated people, athletes and a fanbase. NDSU has many advantages that NDSU folks don't want to admit. No different than the D2 days, only so many teams are really going to be competitive at the FCS level (maybe 15-20) due to funding So even a bad coach should have NDSU at the top end of the division.

You guys have some highly talented kids. They will get better, stronger faster and then you will be like NDSU and worried about Keeping coach Bohl
 
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