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Nance...Too much, too soon?

WilyWapiti

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Larry was clearly the best player on the floor yesterday, and as he goes, so goes our season. I don't see anyone else on the roster who can step up and fill the void if he is not in the game.

Despite that, I'm truly worried about him. He looked tentative, and was clearly favoring the knee. When you start favoring the injury, it puts a lot of stress on the other knee. On most occasions, Larry was coming down real heavy on the uninjured knee. Late in the game it became even more pronounced.

I don't understand why he played 35 minutes in his first game back. He was clearly the best player on the floor, and we may have needed him to win this one game, but we are going to need him much more in January, February, and March. I think the coaching staff needs to put a limit on his minutes per game for now, and stick to it. Late in a close, but ultimately meaningless, game, I don't want to see him try to do too much, too, early, and hurt himself again.

WW
 
WilyWapiti said:
Larry was clearly the best player on the floor yesterday, and as he goes, so goes our season. I don't see anyone else on the roster who can step up and fill the void if he is not in the game.

Despite that, I'm truly worried about him. He looked tentative, and was clearly favoring the knee. When you start favoring the injury, it puts a lot of stress on the other knee. On most occasions, Larry was coming down real heavy on the uninjured knee. Late in the game it became even more pronounced.

I don't understand why he played 35 minutes in his first game back. He was clearly the best player on the floor, and we may have needed him to win this one game, but we are going to need him much more in January, February, and March. I think the coaching staff needs to put a limit on his minutes per game for now, and stick to it. Late in a close, but ultimately meaningless, game, I don't want to see him try to do too much, too, early, and hurt himself again.

WW

Shyatt's interview (post game) indicated that they were staying away from running any "Larry" plays for the first 12-15 minutes of the game. Couple that with him stating (post game as well) that he was as nervous as he has ever been, and that fact that this was his first real basketball action in almost 300 days...I think he did spectacular. I think the gameplan (minutes, action, plays) was spot on by Shyatt & Nance - for Nance.
 
I think they wanted to put him out there for quite a bit of minutes this game to see if he could do it and show him that he could do it. Get his confidence back completely. I think that happened. After the undercut everyone was worried, including him, I think. Once he realized he was fine, he bounced right back. I think that could be a big moment. I have a feeling that tomorrow he will see significantly less time and be rested up for CU. But I think the plan was to see what he could handle this game then rest him next game. I have nothing to back that up other than my opinion however.
I was suprised how much he played but do not dissagree with it.
 
He's pushing it, IMO. Fatigue, whether your aware of it or not because of the adrenalin rush, can prevent your muscles to be in complete control of your body and joints, causing injury. He needs to work into it slowly with periods of rest to recover. That's just my observation from experiences I've had with injuries in my sports career.
 
I am torn on this. I agree that he play WAY MORE minutes than I anticipated or thought he should have. On the other hand, were not coaches. If Shyatt and Co. think he can play, I'm ok with it. I'd rather he get his comfort level back against lesser opponents then to head into conference with a rested but rusty Nance. If he's half as good all year as he was yesterday, were going to be fine.
 
WilyWapiti said:
Larry was clearly the best player on the floor yesterday, and as he goes, so goes our season. I don't see anyone else on the roster who can step up and fill the void if he is not in the game.

Despite that, I'm truly worried about him. He looked tentative, and was clearly favoring the knee. When you start favoring the injury, it puts a lot of stress on the other knee. On most occasions, Larry was coming down real heavy on the uninjured knee. Late in the game it became even more pronounced.

I don't understand why he played 35 minutes in his first game back. He was clearly the best player on the floor, and we may have needed him to win this one game, but we are going to need him much more in January, February, and March. I think the coaching staff needs to put a limit on his minutes per game for now, and stick to it. Late in a close, but ultimately meaningless, game, I don't want to see him try to do too much, too, early, and hurt himself again.

WW


wiley, have you ever had this surgery? Just asking because i have, twice, and i was VERY encouraged how he looked. Only once did he land or cut awkward. He was favoring his left knee, but not as much as most people do this soon out of surgery. to me he looked 85-90% confident.....he needs minutes to get his confidence back. Im not saying over do it, but keep in mind Adrian Peterson went through a full NFL season with less recovery than Larry had. It can happen and he looked way ahead of where i expected him to be.

I believe the staff will monitor his progress just fine. This isn't the slick haired shyster running the show :)

by the way, nice name....did you steal it from me :) :) JK
 
Tentative initially (mental), gradually got more comfortable. I saw very little favoring, if at all. Fatigue is a factor in injury but there has been an entire team of professionals by his side for 300 days working on that through rehab and conditioning.

We aren't helping the mental aspect of his injury by being worried about him. The less the fans and coaches focus on it, the less he will focus on it and the better complete player he will be.

He's fine.

There's always a chance of re-injury, but if that happens it's not because he did too much, too soon. That point has already come and gone.
 
I'm no Dr, but had A-rod surgery last Christmas.
Lifetime runner, and I'm advised no running for over a year. Fortunately, no knee injuries either.
Anytime one wears a brace, you are not 100%, so although Shyatt knows Larry and I know nothing of Jr's mental state or pro ambitions if it were me coaching and Jr agreed, one full season of recovery and strengthening would have seemed the better decision. Nance loves UW, and I think he'd give up his career for a post season appearance at NCAA.
Thinking through this after watching him on the ground for that brief moment, may have made sense for a redshirt year and return next season as fully confident and prepared for the title run. I want to see Jr in the pro's and I'm sure his wallet would like that as well. Just a couple random observations.
 
johnywyo said:
I'm no Dr, but had A-rod surgery last Christmas.
Lifetime runner, and I'm advised no running for over a year.

Out of curiosity; so you can't run for a year, what can you do - bike (or swim, or elliptical, etc.) That sounds horrible, I can't imagine. And to think Aroid was back after it in what - 7 months?
 
Are you saying that every offensive lineman isn't 100% I think the knee brace is just precautionary
 
McPeachy said:
johnywyo said:
I'm no Dr, but had A-rod surgery last Christmas.
Lifetime runner, and I'm advised no running for over a year.

Out of curiosity; so you can't run for a year, what can you do - bike (or swim, or elliptical, etc.) That sounds horrible, I can't imagine. And to think Aroid was back after it in what - 7 months?


Yea, Peachy totally sucks- love running and so, long story short- cycle (when weather permits) orbital elliptical, swimming, weight training....as much as possible. The idea on my injury is to build up glut's, ham's, core strength. I'm not LNJ's age obviously, but in respect to Lax's comments about lineman- dude- 300# lineman aren't cutting, and jumping. Time will tell and I don't want to jinx anyone at all. I'm hoping Jr is capable of being the man again, he's just so damn good to not take every ounce of precautionary measure to protect his ability to be at the top of his game. My surgeon works on Detroit Tigers and Red Wings, and I listen to him. I'm hoping LNJ received AS competent instruction from his Gem City Bone specialists. :geek:
 
Every time Nance jumps is going to scare me.

But...Nance will end up a Top 5 Wyoming great if he leads us to the promised land of MWC title and Sweet 16 this season.

If he is truly healthy, look out people.
 
johnywyo said:
I'm no Dr, but had A-rod surgery last Christmas.
Lifetime runner, and I'm advised no running for over a year. Fortunately, no knee injuries either.
Anytime one wears a brace, you are not 100%, so although Shyatt knows Larry and I know nothing of Jr's mental state or pro ambitions if it were me coaching and Jr agreed, one full season of recovery and strengthening would have seemed the better decision. Nance loves UW, and I think he'd give up his career for a post season appearance at NCAA.
Thinking through this after watching him on the ground for that brief moment, may have made sense for a redshirt year and return next season as fully confident and prepared for the title run. I want to see Jr in the pro's and I'm sure his wallet would like that as well. Just a couple random observations.
That's like saying because there's parachutes on airplanes they are going to crash. It's called precautionary. We would all raise hell if he wasn't wearing one and tweaked his knee.
 
wiley wapiti said:
WilyWapiti said:
Larry was clearly the best player on the floor yesterday, and as he goes, so goes our season. I don't see anyone else on the roster who can step up and fill the void if he is not in the game.

Despite that, I'm truly worried about him. He looked tentative, and was clearly favoring the knee. When you start favoring the injury, it puts a lot of stress on the other knee. On most occasions, Larry was coming down real heavy on the uninjured knee. Late in the game it became even more pronounced.

I don't understand why he played 35 minutes in his first game back. He was clearly the best player on the floor, and we may have needed him to win this one game, but we are going to need him much more in January, February, and March. I think the coaching staff needs to put a limit on his minutes per game for now, and stick to it. Late in a close, but ultimately meaningless, game, I don't want to see him try to do too much, too, early, and hurt himself again.

WW


wiley, have you ever had this surgery? Just asking because i have, twice, and i was VERY encouraged how he looked. Only once did he land or cut awkward. He was favoring his left knee, but not as much as most people do this soon out of surgery. to me he looked 85-90% confident.....he needs minutes to get his confidence back. Im not saying over do it, but keep in mind Adrian Peterson went through a full NFL season with less recovery than Larry had. It can happen and he looked way ahead of where i expected him to be.

I believe the staff will monitor his progress just fine. This isn't the slick haired shyster running the show :)

by the way, nice name....did you steal it from me :) :) JK

I've used it for 14 years, so dang it, it's mine!

I haven't had my ACL done, but 4 surgeries and two scopes, including micro-fracture. I know the feeling when you come out of surgery and rehab, and how long it takes until you forget about the injury. Even now, I think I still favor my "good leg".

I rewatched the highlight video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QkwmTorsgM" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

and I maintain that Larry is landing heavy on his "good" leg. Hopefully he can break the habit quickly.

WW
 
WilyWapiti said:
wiley wapiti said:
WilyWapiti said:
Larry was clearly the best player on the floor yesterday, and as he goes, so goes our season. I don't see anyone else on the roster who can step up and fill the void if he is not in the game.

Despite that, I'm truly worried about him. He looked tentative, and was clearly favoring the knee. When you start favoring the injury, it puts a lot of stress on the other knee. On most occasions, Larry was coming down real heavy on the uninjured knee. Late in the game it became even more pronounced.

I don't understand why he played 35 minutes in his first game back. He was clearly the best player on the floor, and we may have needed him to win this one game, but we are going to need him much more in January, February, and March. I think the coaching staff needs to put a limit on his minutes per game for now, and stick to it. Late in a close, but ultimately meaningless, game, I don't want to see him try to do too much, too, early, and hurt himself again.

WW


wiley, have you ever had this surgery? Just asking because i have, twice, and i was VERY encouraged how he looked. Only once did he land or cut awkward. He was favoring his left knee, but not as much as most people do this soon out of surgery. to me he looked 85-90% confident.....he needs minutes to get his confidence back. Im not saying over do it, but keep in mind Adrian Peterson went through a full NFL season with less recovery than Larry had. It can happen and he looked way ahead of where i expected him to be.

I believe the staff will monitor his progress just fine. This isn't the slick haired shyster running the show :)

by the way, nice name....did you steal it from me :) :) JK

I've used it for 14 years, so dang it, it's mine!

I haven't had my ACL done, but 4 surgeries and two scopes, including micro-fracture. I know the feeling when you come out of surgery and rehab, and how long it takes until you forget about the injury. Even now, I think I still favor my "good leg".

I rewatched the highlight video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QkwmTorsgM" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

and I maintain that Larry is landing heavy on his "good" leg. Hopefully he can break the habit quickly.

WW
Must be nice having a "good" leg. :(
 
watched him extremely closely last night during his time on the court and there was one dunk he came down a bit differently and I watched him up the court, he was a ok, also watched him bang with their big guys and no ill effects there either, Larry will be quite alright and happy to have this Larry Nance Jr 2.0
 

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