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Mountain West Conference Question
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Spartanmike15
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As San Jose St fans, we don’t want him on the team and don’t think that he should still be with the team. I think SJSU and the MWC are stuck right now because if you kick him off the team, you face federal discrimination lawsuits. If you let stay on the team, it’s not illegal but a bad look as federal lawsuits can be brought against the NCAA (like a SJSU player is already doing). Kind of a lose-lose for the conference and schools until the NCAA (or states) set a rule that can take the ultimate blame.
This isn't even difficult. Do the right thing. The right thing is to kick the dude off the women's team. I think the rights of women are worth defending wholeheartedly, not some mamby pamby bullshit about getting sued. Screw all of that. Are Wyoming's women worth defending? If SJSU attempts to play a man then SJSU deserves to be sued into the dark ages.
Spartanmike15
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A player on the team is already part of a lawsuit against the NCAA, which is the organization that allows it to occur.
The answer to your question is that it doesn't matter if there was or was not outrage over the previous two seasons.
Unless you are of the mind that any situation that has been allowed to happen in the past must also be allowed to happen in the present and future?
Both questions can be asked at the same time. Your question isn't actually an answer to mine.
I'm personally conflicted when it comes to the participation of trans athletes in women's sports. But what's confusing to me is the media frenzy surrounding this player now, when she's been on the roster for a couple of years and was already known to be trans. Why is this suddenly becoming such a big issue now, after she's already been competing without controversy for so long? It feels like the attention this is getting has more to do with creating headlines than actually addressing the nuances of fairness in sports.
The NCAA is of course the rule making body, but that rule making body is made up of member institutions that authorize membership of the rules committee. This is the member institution's fault. Allowing men to compete with women is insane and pretending it's confusing is silly. By no amount of self-mutilation and medication can a man become a woman nor a woman become a man. Normalization of mental illness is in nobody's best interests.
Alfred Kinsey would be proud of the NCAA.
Alfred Kinsey would be proud of the NCAA.
Thanks for the clarification. Admittedly I had interpreted your question as a tool to deflect and not actually to discuss.
Personally I don't think the media attention and coverage has anything to do with clicks or with fairness in women's sports. We already solved the fairness for women in sports problem decades ago.
laxwyo
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Is it possible that HE wasn’t playing much? Or people are finally fed up with letting the lunatics get their way? Took a lot of courage for the first women to stand up and say “enough” and now people are rallying to them? You ask why people didn’t stand up two years ago like there wasn’t penalties for speaking up. Open your eyes.
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Spartanmike15
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The information became public this year. It’s not known if any of the players, coaches or admin knew. Information like that is federally protected, and it’s not until another player made it public that this all started. The player who made it public stated that he did not know there was a man on the team until the guy admitted it to her.
Spartanmike15
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He was the 4th best player on a really good team and is not even the best player on this years team. As far as the fans go, we feel that SJSU should bench him and/or kick him off the team.
Appreciate the insight from you, @Spartanmike15
@laxwyo , I'm not going to use a fan forum to debate the morality of trans athletes in women's sports or some other socio-political agenda you're trying to intimate here.
All that being said, I'm sure this will be a non-story soon. SJSU just dropped two to SDSU and UNLV, and would very likely not make any major waves against the perennial powerhouse teams like Wisconsin, Nebraska, Penn State, or Stanford.
@laxwyo , I'm not going to use a fan forum to debate the morality of trans athletes in women's sports or some other socio-political agenda you're trying to intimate here.
All that being said, I'm sure this will be a non-story soon. SJSU just dropped two to SDSU and UNLV, and would very likely not make any major waves against the perennial powerhouse teams like Wisconsin, Nebraska, Penn State, or Stanford.
Bryoming
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These people are all adults. If a team doesn't want to play a team with a trans athlete they are more than capable of making that decision for themselves. If a team wants to allow a trans athlete on their squad they are more than capable of making that decision for themselves. Legislating this is beyond stupid.
It's definitely a more nuanced conversation when we're talking about minors, but again, these are adults. Let them make their own damn decisions.
It's definitely a more nuanced conversation when we're talking about minors, but again, these are adults. Let them make their own damn decisions.
laxwyo
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”I have no leg to stand on”
"I have nothing meaningful to contribute to the discussion, so I'm going to try to get a reaction"
Go Pokes, though.
McPeachy
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Any father worth a shit, would NEVER let his daughter compete athletically at this level - or within certain sports, against biological males. This isn't co-ed softball beer league. Protect women's sports and keep the attention seeking she/him/they/them's in their lane.
Bryoming
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Honest question: If your adult daughter wanted to compete in this league with this player what would you as a father be able to do about it?
McPeachy
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Nothing. But that isn't what is transpiring here. My adult daughter doesn't want to compete with she/him/they/them. My adult daughter wants to compete against the best in her biological gender. Same with most of the SJSU players that play with the tranny...their hands are forced a bit, right?
