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Montana Game

joshvanklomp said:
ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
We have been lacking since Nance and Cooke left. But it is unacceptable to be dominated like we were on the interior by undersized true freshmen.
That true freshman is still heavier than all the posts who played sans Naughton.

I think that is "Itsuckstobeacsuram"'s point. We should not be lighter inside than montana's true freshman.

Anyway, I am not sure what to think yet as far as the pokes go. They played well enough to win and that is always a good thing. Coach Edwards hit the nail on the head when he said we were settling for shots in the 2nd half and not being aggressive. I think that applied to both ends of the floor when it comes to being aggressive but it was hard to be aggressive with the refs calling every little thing. I would imagine our players were trying not to foul so much that they were letting guys run free. Coach will get that cleared up and we won't have the same refs for every game. Also, a lot of our guys are still figuring out how to go for offensive rebounds and still get back for defense. Shy never had them doing that. It will take time for everyone to get used to this style of play.

Basically lets watch and see what improvements this team can make from this game to when they play SDSU.
 
I agree our defense needs work and that freshmen shouldn't lite us up.

Still, Montana is a good basketball program with great coaches. Winning up there is a good road win for a young team. Boise couldn't do it last year with a team full of seniors.

Saying that we can't guard anyone or that we didn't have even decent interior defense is b.s. It's Itsuckstobeacsuram drama queen, over-reaction.

That's not surprising, because when anything bad happens with the team, he's the first one to start the "doom and gloom" end of the world, posts that are fitting his status as one of Wyoming fan bases biggest drama queens.

I'll wait a little longer than game 2 to determine that Wyoming can't gaurd anyone, especially since our most athletic gaurd was missing the game with injury, our most physical post was missing the game with foul trouble, and the refs called 50 fouls in the game: not allowing any kind of physical contact whatsoever.

I think we'll see that Wyoming is still an excellent defensive team, regardless of the youth we had last year, or the over-reaction by Itsucks.
 
Cowboy Junky said:
I agree our defense needs work and that freshmen shouldn't lite us up.

Still, Montana is a good basketball program with great coaches. Winning up there is a good road win for a young team. Boise couldn't do it last year with a team full of seniors.

Saying that we can't guard anyone or that we didn't have even decent interior defense is b.s. It's Itsuckstobeacsuram drama queen, over-reaction.

That's not surprising, because when anything bad happens with the team, he's the first one to start the "doom and gloom" end of the world, posts that are fitting his status as one of Wyoming fan bases biggest drama queens.

I'll wait a little longer than game 2 to determine that Wyoming can't gaurd anyone, especially since our most athletic gaurd was missing the game with injury, our most physical post was missing the game with foul trouble, and the refs called 50 fouls in the game: not allowing any kind of physical contact whatsoever.

I think we'll see that Wyoming is still an excellent defensive team, regardless of the youth we had last year, or the over-reaction by Itsucks.
I am the first to doom and gloom? Are you a moron? Go back and read my posts about this past weekends egg-laying in Vegas. Get out of here with that BS.

I have never said it wasn't a good win, actually just the opposite. As a young team, any win is good, any road win is great. But don't come at me that were some world beaters and that we are loaded on the interior. We are LUCKY to win that game. We got outplayed at almost every position.
 
ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
Cowboy Junky said:
I agree our defense needs work and that freshmen shouldn't lite us up.

Still, Montana is a good basketball program with great coaches. Winning up there is a good road win for a young team. Boise couldn't do it last year with a team full of seniors.

Saying that we can't guard anyone or that we didn't have even decent interior defense is b.s. It's Itsuckstobeacsuram drama queen, over-reaction.

That's not surprising, because when anything bad happens with the team, he's the first one to start the "doom and gloom" end of the world, posts that are fitting his status as one of Wyoming fan bases biggest drama queens.

I'll wait a little longer than game 2 to determine that Wyoming can't gaurd anyone, especially since our most athletic gaurd was missing the game with injury, our most physical post was missing the game with foul trouble, and the refs called 50 fouls in the game: not allowing any kind of physical contact whatsoever.

I think we'll see that Wyoming is still an excellent defensive team, regardless of the youth we had last year, or the over-reaction by Itsucks.
I am the first to doom and gloom? Are you a moron? Go back and read my posts about this past weekends egg-laying in Vegas. Get out of here with that BS.

I have never said it wasn't a good win, actually just the opposite. As a young team, any win is good, any road win is great. But don't come at me that were some world beaters and that we are loaded on the interior. We are LUCKY to win that game. We got outplayed at almost every position.

Who's coming at you like we're world beaters? I just posted that we have a length advantage and we won that game because they didn't have anyone to cover our tall wings. That's a quote from their coach. It's true.

I'm not buying that we can't cover anyone. I think we're going to be at least above average on the defensive end.
 
Cowboy Junky said:
ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
Cowboy Junky said:
I agree our defense needs work and that freshmen shouldn't lite us up.

Still, Montana is a good basketball program with great coaches. Winning up there is a good road win for a young team. Boise couldn't do it last year with a team full of seniors.

Saying that we can't guard anyone or that we didn't have even decent interior defense is b.s. It's Itsuckstobeacsuram drama queen, over-reaction.

That's not surprising, because when anything bad happens with the team, he's the first one to start the "doom and gloom" end of the world, posts that are fitting his status as one of Wyoming fan bases biggest drama queens.

I'll wait a little longer than game 2 to determine that Wyoming can't gaurd anyone, especially since our most athletic gaurd was missing the game with injury, our most physical post was missing the game with foul trouble, and the refs called 50 fouls in the game: not allowing any kind of physical contact whatsoever.

I think we'll see that Wyoming is still an excellent defensive team, regardless of the youth we had last year, or the over-reaction by Itsucks.
I am the first to doom and gloom? Are you a moron? Go back and read my posts about this past weekends egg-laying in Vegas. Get out of here with that BS.

I have never said it wasn't a good win, actually just the opposite. As a young team, any win is good, any road win is great. But don't come at me that were some world beaters and that we are loaded on the interior. We are LUCKY to win that game. We got outplayed at almost every position.

Who's coming at you like we're world beaters? I just posted that we have a length advantage and we won that game because they didn't have anyone to cover our tall wings. That's a quote from their coach. It's true.

I'm not buying that we can't cover anyone. I think we're going to be at least above average on the defensive end.
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I watched the game and was not impressed by what I saw at the defensive end of the floor. Montana is a good team, no doubt. But we will face better. If we cannot impose our will on two true freshmen who we have significant physical advantage over we are screwed when we play teams with actual power forwards and centers. Saying that isn't an exaggeration or being a drama queen. We will get destroyed if Herndon, Dalton, Moemeka, Barnes, and (to some extent) Naughton can't get it figured out.

I applaud these guys for the things they do well.

Dalton has a motor like few I have seen in Laramie. He has a nose for the ball and hustles his way to far more points than by rites he should get.

Herndon has a nice shot that, when not relied up for his size, stretches defenses quite well. He has gotten better from the Free Throw Line and does well being a leader on the floor.

Moemeka is young but an absolute freak athlete. I foresee a career similar to Derek Cooke but starting with a better base. Should be a good one.

Barnes, while yet to really contribute on the floor, is an absolute consummate professional and appears to be a killer teammate. Maybe this is his only role, I don't know. But he does it well.

Naughton is the only one of this group that I think has the game to be an impact "big" right now. He has good post presence and can get his own shot down low. He is great on the defensive side of the ball and has a nose for rebounds. This dude needs to learn consistency and staying out of foul trouble. When he is on the floor he's good.

Look, I am not saying I hate the Cowboys or that they're losers or any of that. I am saying that, based on the game in Montana, against far "inferior" players we got worked. It was disheartening to watch as a fan seeing a guy in his third year in the program get pushed around and worked over by guys smaller and far less seasoned. Thats all. I don't think thats being a drama queen or exaggerating. As to my comment about "guarding anyone....." I didn't like what I saw Monday night. The season is long though and I expect they will get better. JUST AS I SAID IN ANOTHER POST.

Doom and Gloom my ass
 
ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
If we cannot impose our will on two true freshmen who we have significant physical advantage over we are screwed when we play teams with actual power forwards and centers.
We didn't have a physical advantage though. Pretty sure the freshman had a weight/strength advantage on Herndon and Dalton.
 
Montana hung with North Carolina State till 5 min. to go, but will lose - two and a half left. I was surprised how easily Montana got inside.
 
Adv8RU12 said:
Montana hung with North Carolina State till 5 min. to go, but will lose - two and a half left. I was surprised how easily Montana got inside.
Maybe NC State doesn't have any Division I bigs either?
 
joshvanklomp said:
Adv8RU12 said:
Montana hung with North Carolina State till 5 min. to go, but will lose - two and a half left. I was surprised how easily Montana got inside.
Maybe NC State doesn't have any Division I bigs either?
They might not have a deep bench either. Noticed they went with a 7 man rotation. Wyoming played at least 11 vs Montana. Some not a lot of minutes, but still played 11.
 

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