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Mark Mangino

BeaverPoke said:
alyssa said:
BeaverPoke said:
Almost every good team recruits out of Texas.
Texas produces a LOT of D1 talent, what's your point?
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One point about it is that those top recruits go to power conference teams almost every single time.
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So you think just because he recruited talent to Kansas, doesn't mean he can get that same type of talent to Wyo?

More like he got the talent because it was the Big12, not because of the coach?
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More for the conference than for the coach when it comes to Kansas and Iowa State type teams. I don't think the Big Eight teams got as many Texas players until the Big 12 days. But now the boys are born in a completely different time so things are different but the power conferences are still going to have advantages. You know you're asking me questions while I'm going through a football crisis! :lol:

No matter what I don't think MM is a good choice.
 
one-smooth-poke said:
BeaverPoke said:
Cowduck said:
Pokes Forever said:
Has anyone brought up Jim Tressel?
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Tressel has a show cause order. Non-starter. Seriously, stop with the damaged goods, people.


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What's a show cause order?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Show-cause_penalty" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Here is the show cause order for Tressel.......not sure just how detrimental it would be
 
I think it might still be worth it.
He can build the program to where it should be.
He is a good enough coach where, he could get his top assistant to take over for 5 games, and a bowl game and could still win.
 
BeaverPoke said:
I think it might still be worth it.
He can build the program to where it should be.
He is a good enough coach where, he could get his top assistant to take over for 5 games, and a bowl game and could still win.
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The NCAA would make our life a fucking hell. The point of a show-cause order is to make the coach unhireable. Find another coach who got hired after a show-cause penalty. You can't. There's a good reason for that. Let's get serious, people.


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Some people have brought up Bobby Wilder for another school I support who has needed the good stuff for many years.
I don't see him being the best fit out there for this other program.
 
My biggest pro of hiring Mangino was that he and his staff developed players. They weren't getting the players that Mizzou, Texas, A&M, or Oklahoma were getting. Yet, they were still beating these teams for a few years.

KU was awful before he got there and they've been awful since. He is a good coach.
 
He's what caused them to be awful since. That's the difference. If you want WYO to look like Kansas has the last few years, then hire Mangino. There is a reason no one wanted him at the FBS level.
 
kansasCowboy said:
He's what caused them to be awful since. That's the difference. If you want WYO to look like Kansas has the last few years, then hire Mangino. There is a reason no one wanted him at the FBS level.
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Just curious... How did he cause them to be awful?
 
ProudWYOAlum said:
kansasCowboy said:
He's what caused them to be awful since. That's the difference. If you want WYO to look like Kansas has the last few years, then hire Mangino. There is a reason no one wanted him at the FBS level.
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Just curious... How did he cause them to be awful?
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Ate all the O-Linemans food, causing them to be skinny, meaning no protection for the QB?

Okay, that's my only fat joke.
I'm sorry.
 
ProudWYOAlum said:
kansasCowboy said:
He's what caused them to be awful since. That's the difference. If you want WYO to look like Kansas has the last few years, then hire Mangino. There is a reason no one wanted him at the FBS level.
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Just curious... How did he cause them to be awful?
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He was fired straight up for his anger issues. He at 30+ players threaten to leave if he didn't. He really was an ill tempered guy. I remember watching him on the sideline in Laramie when he had KU up 42-14. WYO made a comeback, and throughout that comeback, the rest of the game he was yelling at his players, in their face ant cussing them out. He was throwing his headset at players. The best or worst I saw was when his QB was standing next to him getting an earful. He had his helmet off. I felt bad for the kid, I was 30+ feet away and thought Mangino was loud. But he did nothing but berate the kid for the full defensive possession. I remember he said,"Do you think you can find the open man for once in this whole game! Maybe protect the fucking football? Or are you too much of a pussy to do the little things! Go fucking take care of the football!" Then he slapped the kid hard across the face with his play book. I remember the QB gave him a look, like,"why the hell did he just hit me".
Before he was fired, several of those players quit. Recruiting went to hell, because most didn't feel even the AD had the best interest in the players. Every year for about 6 of his years there would always be a group of football players going to the AD, that group got larger every year and was still ignored, until it was too many.
I don't know if he's changed his attitude of not, but if there is a risk of that on the sideline, it ain't worth it.
 
kansasCowboy said:
ProudWYOAlum said:
kansasCowboy said:
He's what caused them to be awful since. That's the difference. If you want WYO to look like Kansas has the last few years, then hire Mangino. There is a reason no one wanted him at the FBS level.
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Just curious... How did he cause them to be awful?
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He was fired straight up for his anger issues. He at 30+ players threaten to leave if he didn't. He really was an ill tempered guy. I remember watching him on the sideline in Laramie when he had KU up 42-14. WYO made a comeback, and throughout that comeback, the rest of the game he was yelling at his players, in their face ant cussing them out. He was throwing his headset at players. The best or worst I saw was when his QB was standing next to him getting an earful. He had his helmet off. I felt bad for the kid, I was 30+ feet away and thought Mangino was loud. But he did nothing but berate the kid for the full defensive possession. I remember he said,"Do you think you can find the open man for once in this whole game! Maybe protect the fucking football? Or are you too much of a pussy to do the little things! Go fucking take care of the football!" Then he slapped the kid hard across the face with his play book. I remember the QB gave him a look, like,"why the hell did he just hit me".
Before he was fired, several of those players quit. Recruiting went to hell, because most didn't feel even the AD had the best interest in the players. Every year for about 6 of his years there would always be a group of football players going to the AD, that group got larger every year and was still ignored, until it was too many.
I don't know if he's changed his attitude of not, but if there is a risk of that on the sideline, it ain't worth it.
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Wow, sounds like our recent ex-HC, we don't need that again. Although no one ever told me he hit them with a play book.
 
Just thought I'd share, the KU QB in the above mentioned was Whittmore. He was 12-15-269-3-0 and ran 11-69-0...
Does that sound deserving of being berated on the side of the field?
 
Mangino is a very good coach and fits Burman's criteria IMO. He got a horrible wrap at the end of his Kansas gig. Basically Lew Perkins trashed the man and got away with it. KU lost the best thing they ever had as a football coach. Look at them now and that was NOT Mangino's fault for those two coaches failures.

Here is a good write up on Mangino from a few months ago.

http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2013/aug/17/ex-ku-coach-mark-mangino-building-happy-healthy-li/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 
We need a winner. Mangino had three winning records in his Kansas tenure. Dam you people, this is SO much more than just a "good guy" or a "good coach." It is about recruiting as well. We need someone who is respected, liked and can recruit. Have you listened to Matt Wells speak? You would go to war for that guy.

Mangino is old meat.
 
KansasPoke said:
Mangino is a very good coach and fits Burman's criteria IMO. He got a horrible wrap at the end of his Kansas gig. Basically Lew Perkins trashed the man and got away with it. KU lost the best thing they ever had as a football coach. Look at them now and that was NOT Mangino's fault for those two coaches failures.

Here is a good write up on Mangino from a few months ago.

http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2013/aug/17/ex-ku-coach-mark-mangino-building-happy-healthy-li/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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This +100

Most of the people in this thread trashing Mangino have no clue what they are talking about.
 
seattlecowboy said:
KansasPoke said:
Mangino is a very good coach and fits Burman's criteria IMO. He got a horrible wrap at the end of his Kansas gig. Basically Lew Perkins trashed the man and got away with it. KU lost the best thing they ever had as a football coach. Look at them now and that was NOT Mangino's fault for those two coaches failures.

Here is a good write up on Mangino from a few months ago.

http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2013/aug/17/ex-ku-coach-mark-mangino-building-happy-healthy-li/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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This +100

Most of the people in this thread trashing Mangino have no clue what they are talking about.
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Yep, Seattle, your right. Watching it first hand, coaching with fellow coaches who played for the man, and even seeing his attitude on video on YouTube is nothing to note. Not to mention everything coming out the time he was fired.
 
kansasCowboy said:
seattlecowboy said:
KansasPoke said:
Mangino is a very good coach and fits Burman's criteria IMO. He got a horrible wrap at the end of his Kansas gig. Basically Lew Perkins trashed the man and got away with it. KU lost the best thing they ever had as a football coach. Look at them now and that was NOT Mangino's fault for those two coaches failures.

Here is a good write up on Mangino from a few months ago.

http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2013/aug/17/ex-ku-coach-mark-mangino-building-happy-healthy-li/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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This +100

Most of the people in this thread trashing Mangino have no clue what they are talking about.
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Yep, Seattle, your right. Watching it first hand, coaching with fellow coaches who played for the man, and even seeing his attitude on video on YouTube is nothing to note. Not to mention everything coming out the time he was fired.
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Well honestly if a kid can't take some yelling and cuss words playing football then he shouldn't be playing. That is part of what a lot of coaches do. Is it the best way to handle it? Probably not but if you can't handle it then you probably aren't going to do much with your life anyways being so sensitive every time some tough situation comes up.

That being said I'm sure it wasn't near as bad as you make it sound and it probably isn't as good as Mangino or his friends make it sound and it was probably somewhere in the middle. Maybe the guy can change? Seems funny though that the athletic director at the time of his firing got into trouble and other people got arrested. Almost like the athletic director had it out for him.

I think he would be a good hire but if we go another direction that is fine as well as long as we get someone who can win games.
 
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