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Just Say No To Conference North America

I think if we stop at 18 or 20 teams it will work I think 24 and the semi-final games for football is a bit much. At 18 we would only have the championship game. The 24 idea with semi-final games has been thrown out there to see how hot TV gets for it. With CBS NBC and FOX all starting to put money into their sports networks I think the new league will be able to get a big TV deal without going to 24. Stop at 18 with little crossover play and the new league works.
 
Seems like 16 teams in two divisions would be best. Seven games against your division opponents. Top two in each division in playoff for championship (two games). Three games left for non-league opponents.
 
I am in favor of 18 teams with two divisions. The reason being is that that would be 8 conference football games (4 home & 4 road). This would allow for a true division champ b/c any tiebreaker would be head to head unless there was a three way tie. This also leaves 4 non-conference games or if the conference wanted you could do 3 non-conference game and one cross division game.

West Division:
Air Force
CSU
Wyoming
Fresno State
UNLV
Nevada
New Mexico
Utah State
Hawaii (Football only)

East Division:
UAB
East Carolina
Marshall
Rice
Southern Mississippi
Tulane
Tulsa
UTEP
Louisiana Tech (Football only)

I added LT as football only that way we can have travel partners for other sports which makes scheduling easier.
 
I see the comment about TV revenue being bounced around. I wonder how realistic that is? IIRC, the MWC was given the TV deal that the WAC-16 was about to get, but only had to share it around 8 ways.

So the superconference logic, with a whole lotta teams that are only second or third fiddle in large TV markets essentially failed before. TV followed BYU and Utah. We have no BYUs or Utahs in the new conglomeration.

I have only heard to interesting arguments for this mess:

1 - at 16 or 20 teams you have to lose a lot of teams to other conferences before getting desperate to expand
2 - we might be able to get out from under the current TV contract and that there must be some other buyer out there who would pay more. But once again, no BYU or Utah, and what the heck, no TCU or Boise. This just doesn't seem to hold water.

So basically the only real reason is item 1: protection from defection
 
Lost Poke said:
I have only heard to interesting arguments for this mess:

1 - at 16 or 20 teams you have to lose a lot of teams to other conferences before getting desperate to expand
2 - we might be able to get out from under the current TV contract and that there must be some other buyer out there who would pay more. But once again, no BYU or Utah, and what the heck, no TCU or Boise. This just doesn't seem to hold water.

So basically the only real reason is item 1: protection from defection
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The protection from defection argument really only makes sense if one assumes that the BCS conferences really are looking to poach a few more teams from among the 16-24 that this Mega Conference expects to include. I do not expect that to happen in the immediate future on a scale that would make a single conference of this size necessary. I think that process is pretty much over and they got who they wanted. In football terms, it does not do much good to tackle a player after he is already in the endzone. All of that said, from everything I have seen about this move, it seems like it really is a act of fear that what has already happened will continue to happen.

The other piece of this might very well be that it lest the new league sign a deal with ESPN and the Presidents have decided the worst that ESPN has to offer is worth more than the best deal available that does not have teams playing on ESPN. In today's world, except for the SEC, not being on ESPN is = not fielding a team in the eyes of recruits and advertisers.

I think that, at the end of the day, this is a short-term deal that will fall apart within the next 10 years. Today's middle school students will not play for a championship of this new conference/association as seniors in college.
 
WyoExpat said:
I think that, at the end of the day, this is a short-term deal that will fall apart within the next 10 years. Today's middle school students will not play for a championship of this new conference/association as seniors in college.
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+1 on everything except this league won't last 10 years as you said. More like 2-3 seasons before the conference re-shuffle begins again.
 
It can't be CNA without Canada, Mexico.............

It's hard to get excited about CFB these days........period.
But I'm trying real hard to............

For me, CFB has been a wreck since 1987 anyway.
 
alyssa said:
It can't be CNA without Canada, Mexico.............

It's hard to get excited about CFB these days........period.
But I'm trying real hard to............

For me, CFB has been a wreck since 1987 anyway.
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Actually, CFB started down this road in 1990 when the Big Ten invited Pen State to join.
 
Adv8RU12 said:
Seems like 16 teams in two divisions would be best. Seven games against your division opponents. Top two in each division in playoff for championship (two games). Three games left for non-league opponents.
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Hmm... Shouda thought about this. 7 division + 3 non-league = 10. So what happens to the other two games for teams that don't make the play-offs? How did the Big-12 work this out?
 
Wyokie said:
alyssa said:
It can't be CNA without Canada, Mexico.............

It's hard to get excited about CFB these days........period.
But I'm trying real hard to............

For me, CFB has been a wreck since 1987 anyway.
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Actually, CFB started down this road in 1990 when the Big Ten invited Pen State to join.
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No '87, when they killed SMU football..........then I went away...........Princeton.
It's been pretty sad for me since then.
 
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