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Josh Allen hype machine
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joshvanklomp
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Haha seen at least one place suggest New England could draft Josh Allen with the pick they got from SF and develop him to take over for Brady one day. Hate the Patriots, but wouldn't mind that...
LanderPoke
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joshvanklomp said:
I get the feeling Josh won't fall that far, but that would be so cool
ItSucksToBeACSURam
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LanderPoke said:
It shocks me the Pats traded the Heir Apparent for a second round pick.... Maybe they have something else in the works... Seems like SF got a helluva deal there... Belichick got wind Jimmy G wasnt going to resign with the Pats to sit the bench next year?
WestWYOPoke
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ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
That's what all the talking heads are saying. Efforts to resign Jimmy G weren't going where the Pats wanted, trade deadline is next week, and they are confident they can get a few more years out of Brady. I wouldn't be surprised if they take a QB to develop in the draft next year.
joshvanklomp
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WestWYOPoke said:
2 pm today
fromolwyoming
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J-Rod said:
Denver needs an o-line worse then we do. While we can't run the ball for crap, we can give Josh some time to throw the ball.
joshvanklomp
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Honestly, Pittsburgh and New England are two destinations very high on my wish list. I know they won't be near the top of the draft though.
It's gross to say, but Jacksonville would give him an opportunity similar to what he got here last year with a great rushing attack (though with this year's edition of our defense). It'd be cool to see him with receiving weapons like the Giants have. Or what if he became Drew Brees' successor (something Garrett Grayson proved he was a failure at)? So many intriguing possibilities.
Stay far away from Green Bay. That would be worst-case scenario for me personally. That'd be like the equivalent of him transferring to CSU.
It's gross to say, but Jacksonville would give him an opportunity similar to what he got here last year with a great rushing attack (though with this year's edition of our defense). It'd be cool to see him with receiving weapons like the Giants have. Or what if he became Drew Brees' successor (something Garrett Grayson proved he was a failure at)? So many intriguing possibilities.
Stay far away from Green Bay. That would be worst-case scenario for me personally. That'd be like the equivalent of him transferring to CSU.
whyoh
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https://amp.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000870850/article/sources-tell-us-scout-says-josh-allen-most-talented-qb-in-class?networkId=4595&site=.news&zone=story&zoneUrl=url%3Dstory&zoneKeys=s1%3Dstory&env=&pageKeyValues=prtnr%3Dcollege-football&p.ct=CFB%2024%2F7&p.adsm=false&p.tcm=%23ffffff&p.bgc1m=%23000000&sr=amp
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joshvanklomp
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phxpoke said:
I would throw away the numbers when analyzing Josh.
pokefanchaz7
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I think you are foolish to gamble josh Allen as your starting qb next year. I really hope he goes somewhere with a great qb and can grow into the role in the near future
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Josh is righting the ship as the season progresses. His stats are improving TD/INT went from 3/3 the first 4 games to 9/3 the second 4 games, completion jumped a little and even rushing went from 32 yards to 130. His completion percentage for the season so far is right about where it ended last year, with a better TD/INT ration. This is without the offensive weapons he lost to the NFL, and that arm doesn't look any weaker. I imagine statistically 2017 will be similar to 2016 for Josh. The only problem is we all assumed they'd be better, and they're not. I don't imagine that the scouts think he's NFL starter quality next year at all, and I doubt he'd be drafted for that reason.
OrediggerPoke
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cowboyz said:
What? Sure, most of them probably rightfully think he is a project. But thinking that he won't be drafted at all with his physical skill set is almost comical. Many quarterbacks considered to be 'projects' are drafted high based on ability. Hell, Trubisky had one year as a starting college quarterback. Allen will be in top 10 picks, no doubt.
poke_addict
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He's not saying he won't be drafted just saying he thinks teams won't draft him to start right away.OrediggerPoke said:
joshvanklomp
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This is a subscription service, but thought I'd still post the link and a short excerpt:
[tweet]https://twitter.com/NicoleAuerbach/status/927895892274958336[/tweet]
The way coaches and scouts talk about Allen is different than the way he’s discussed in the media or among casual sports fans. And that’s to be expected after he and the Cowboys lost 24-3 to Iowa in their season-opener and 49-13 to Oregon two weeks later. Unless he’d played perfectly in both those early-season games against Power 5 foes and gone undefeated through the regular season, he was always going to face some level of skepticism. Even if it came from voices and people who don’t have any part in actual NFL draft decision-making.
Allen was an overlooked high school recruit who needed a stint at Reedley (Calif.) College to land an FBS scholarship. But he showed dynamic ability as a redshirt sophomore with Wyoming in 2016, and this past spring found his name featured prominently in 2018 NFL draft projections.
“I think the script out there was that this would be some fairytale, that we would have been able to run through the season and all of that, but I knew that was going to be very hard,” Brent Vigen, Wyoming’s offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach, told The All-American.
“We had to figure out through the first month, month and a half, of the season, ‘Who are we as an offense?’ We knew we lost all those guys — so what would be the makeup on the flipside for us? … The unscripted part is not performing so well as a team, an offense … and him taking the brunt of that, nationally. I do think, for him, having to deal with the scrutiny that he has, especially in those first weeks, will serve him well over the long haul.”
[tweet]https://twitter.com/NicoleAuerbach/status/927895892274958336[/tweet]
The way coaches and scouts talk about Allen is different than the way he’s discussed in the media or among casual sports fans. And that’s to be expected after he and the Cowboys lost 24-3 to Iowa in their season-opener and 49-13 to Oregon two weeks later. Unless he’d played perfectly in both those early-season games against Power 5 foes and gone undefeated through the regular season, he was always going to face some level of skepticism. Even if it came from voices and people who don’t have any part in actual NFL draft decision-making.
Allen was an overlooked high school recruit who needed a stint at Reedley (Calif.) College to land an FBS scholarship. But he showed dynamic ability as a redshirt sophomore with Wyoming in 2016, and this past spring found his name featured prominently in 2018 NFL draft projections.
“I think the script out there was that this would be some fairytale, that we would have been able to run through the season and all of that, but I knew that was going to be very hard,” Brent Vigen, Wyoming’s offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach, told The All-American.
“We had to figure out through the first month, month and a half, of the season, ‘Who are we as an offense?’ We knew we lost all those guys — so what would be the makeup on the flipside for us? … The unscripted part is not performing so well as a team, an offense … and him taking the brunt of that, nationally. I do think, for him, having to deal with the scrutiny that he has, especially in those first weeks, will serve him well over the long haul.”
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