Jordan Johnson, Montana ready for Wyoming

[J-Rod]

I don't have question @ LB, RB or WR I think we have solid players in all of those spots. Sure we don't have a Herron those are big shoes to fill but I think we will be fine at that position. What i'm very worried about is QB like all us of and the DL.

I feel like we lost most of our games last year because by the 3rd Q our DL was so worn out from being on the field and their conditioning was weak so the second half they just had no fuel left in the tank.

The starting DL is solid...it's the depth that is the worry.

I'm more concerned about the O-line. We all know it is unlikely QB play will be stellar this year. If that is the case, we're really banking on the run game being the focal point of the offense. May/Wick and the depth behind them are great, but if the OL can't control the LOS...we're looking at a Glenn era type offense in 2014. Which scares the shit outta me...cause if the offense is subpar, the defense had better be at least an average unit....or this season will go to hell in a hand basket.

Bascially, I'm dreading a moment when Kirkegaard stinks, and the opposing defense is stuffing May/Wick at the LOS because they're loading up the box and disregarding the pass. That is a surefire "uh oh, now what?" moment.

 

[MrTitleist]

We have some hidden talent on this team that will show up, and we have quite a bit of experience coming back on both sides. The offense is learning a new system - which is a huge deal - but I can only speculate how this transition is going.

This is a good game and one that should be played every few years. Wyoming and Montana have a hell of alot in common with each other. We are good neighbors. Fan's on both sides travel.

Montana will remember what is like to climb the side of the mountains in Missoula with a 4011 ft elevation increase in Laramie.

Elevation won't surprise Montana too much, they play at Northern Arizona every other year and they are 7000 ft elevation.

 

[Asmodeanreborn]

We have some hidden talent on this team that will show up, and we have quite a bit of experience coming back on both sides. The offense is learning a new system - which is a huge deal - but I can only speculate how this transition is going.

This is a good game and one that should be played every few years. Wyoming and Montana have a hell of alot in common with each other. We are good neighbors. Fan's on both sides travel.

Montana will remember what is like to climb the side of the mountains in Missoula with a 4011 ft elevation increase in Laramie.

Elevation won't surprise Montana too much, they play at Northern Arizona every other year and they are 7000 ft elevation.

I don't think most teams are "surprised" by the elevation change - it's just the effect that matters, especially on the lines. If our lines are better conditioned this year, maybe it'll actually matter a little bit.

 

[BeaverPoke]

09Griz, I do not know anything about the Montana QB Jordan Johnson and the "feminazi" thing.

I can tell
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And you guys are right, rape is absolutely no laughing matter.
Neither is perjury and it became very apparent as the trial progressed.

So apparently you didn't understand what I was getting at.

Saying "I can tell" when I tell you I don't know anything about it doesn't really help explain anything to me.
I was wondering what kind of kid he is and that was all.

 

[BackHarlowRoad]

Elevation won't surprise Montana too much, they play at Northern Arizona every other year and they are 7000 ft elevation.

Only way Laramie's elevation effects a football player from any team is the mental aspect. Altitude might effect cross country runners and soccer players, but not a short-burst sports like football.

 

[J-Rod]

Only way Laramie's elevation effects a football player from any team is the mental aspect. Altitude might effect cross country runners and soccer players, but not a short-burst sports like football.

It really is mind games at the end of the day. I've spoken to two athletes who've played football/basketball games in Laramie and both claimed the elevation is overrated. 7220 ft. is intimidating when you point it out, but without it visiting players would barely notice.

 

[Wyokie]

Only way Laramie's elevation effects a football player from any team is the mental aspect. Altitude might effect cross country runners and soccer players, but not a short-burst sports like football.

It really is mind games at the end of the day. I've spoken to two athletes who've played football/basketball games in Laramie and both claimed the elevation is overrated. 7220 ft. is intimidating when you point it out, but without it visiting players would barely notice.

It didn't affect Hawaii's players and they almost beat us last year. Only reasons we beat them was a) Brett Smith, b) Herron, and c) they had a bigger jackass for a head coach than we did!!!

 

[Wyo2dal]

The altitude isn't overrated I live in Arizona and I know multiple athletes like my roommate that train with Elevation Training Masks for the simple fact that the elevation makes a huge difference.

People that say it's overrated just don't know because they have never experienced it, When is the last time you watched a Basketball or Football game from the same exact teams in high and low elevation and paid attention to the players? Second Quarter at the War or in the AA players with their hands on their knees already short of breath. Coaches subbing people in and out as fast as possible.

As for the Hawaii game thats the worst example you could use the average scoring drive was 2 mins long. The Altitude only makes a difference when Time of Possession is relevant in which case the last 5 years it hasn't been.

Every year someone makes comments that the Altitude doesn't matter ask any athlete where they would prefer to train for the best endurance and they will tell you at the highest altitude they can get around 8000 ft.

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[WestWYOPoke]

You should tell your roommate to stop training in the mask and instead buy a hyperbaric chamber. These masks have been shown to actually hinder training and will not assist in altitude acclimation. The only way to see actual physiological changes is long-term adaptation, like a chamber to sleep in. The only thing the mask might help with is mental preparation.

 

[BackHarlowRoad]

The altitude isn't overrated I live in Arizona and I know multiple athletes like my roommate that train with Elevation Training Masks for the simple fact that the elevation makes a huge difference.

People that say it's overrated just don't know because they have never experienced it, When is the last time you watched a Basketball or Football game from the same exact teams in high and low elevation and paid attention to the players? Second Quarter at the War or in the AA players with their hands on their knees already short of breath. Coaches subbing people in and out as fast as possible.

As for the Hawaii game thats the worst example you could use the average scoring drive was 2 mins long. The Altitude only makes a difference when Time of Possession is relevant in which case the last 5 years it hasn't been.

Every year someone makes comments that the Altitude doesn't matter ask any athlete where they would prefer to train for the best endurance and they will tell you at the highest altitude they can get around 8000 ft.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altitude_training" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The key word you used there is "endurance".

Football is not an endurance sport.

 

[kansasCowboy]

Only way Laramie's elevation effects a football player from any team is the mental aspect. Altitude might effect cross country runners and soccer players, but not a short-burst sports like football.

It really is mind games at the end of the day. I've spoken to two athletes who've played football/basketball games in Laramie and both claimed the elevation is overrated. 7220 ft. is intimidating when you point it out, but without it visiting players would barely notice.

It didn't affect Hawaii's players and they almost beat us last year. Only reasons we beat them was a) Brett Smith, b) Herron, and c) they had a bigger jackass for a head coach than we did!!!

Hawaii only took it to us last year because they knew we may be their only other chance at a win, but those guys were freezing and gassed on the sidelines. Several of their WRs were on oxy masks on the sideline, especially after the long gains and Tds. I think I even saw there RB Iosefa on an O2 mask a couple times. They were just determined to win that game.
Altitude does play a role. When we were run and gun under McClain, you would see SDSU and other teams having wobbly legs by halftime. When we hosted Virginia in football, those guys were on oxygen from the second quarter on.
When you come from sea level to about 3,000 feet, you will feel the effect. When you come from 4,000 and up, you don't feel it as much.

 

[MrTitleist]

Even the mighty Texas Longhorns were sucking oxygen during their game in Laramie.

I notice the difference when I go to Laramie from here and it's only a 3500 foot difference..

 

[BJC]

It seems you don't see the oxygen masks as much as you used to (NFL) I thought maybe they were ruled only for medical use or something.

 

[StarValleyPoke]

I think we win this game in the second half with our running game (Wick, May) and our defensive line (Yarbrough, Puletasi). I'd love a blowout considering I'm traveling with a Montana fan who's Montana parent are already talking smack. I'm hoping she pulls her UW jacket over her Montana apparel in the 2nd quarter!

Turnovers will be huge but I think the running backs will be too tough to stop for 4 quarters. I'm gonna say 32-17 for a score.

Go Pokes!

 

[BackHarlowRoad]

It seems you don't see the oxygen masks as much as you used to (NFL) I thought maybe they were ruled only for medical use or something.

No, I think they just realized they were a waste of time because no one's oxygen levels were actually dropping.

Depleted blood oxygen would probably constitute 'medical use' anyways.

 

[WestWYOPoke]

It seems you don't see the oxygen masks as much as you used to (NFL) I thought maybe they were ruled only for medical use or something.

It's because they are pointless. Even in Laramie there is no physiological use for them, there is still more oxygen in the atmosphere than the lungs can use. Now using them as a mental placebo effect, ok sure...but physically there is zero need for oxygen in any sports stadium in the US.

 

[BJC]

And there is the argument that football is primarely an anarobic activity. .....that said....still harder to catch your breath but not as much of a performance factor. :twocents:

 

[laxwyo]

Just playing devils advocate but if there's more oxygen in the air than our lungs can use, then what's the point of smokers being on oxygen? There's definitely more oxygen than what their lungs can use

 

[Wyo2dal]

Just playing devils advocate but if there's more oxygen in the air than our lungs can use, then what's the point of smokers being on oxygen? There's definitely more oxygen than what their lungs can use

Here is some learning and research I had to do before my Dad passed away due to emphysema. I had to find the best place for him to live that he wanted to be in that was affordable and would ease breathing for him. Now when he moved he barely changed from 6400 feet to 5200 feet but he could immediately feel the difference and he wasn't short of breath as often.

The important effect of this decrease in pressure is this: in a given volume of air, there are fewer molecules present. This is really just another way of saying that the pressure is lower (this is called Boyle's law). The percentage of those molecules that are oxygen is exactly the same: 21%. The problem is that there are fewer molecules of everything present, including oxygen.

So although the percentage of oxygen in the atmosphere is the same, the thinner air means there is less oxygen to breathe.

Try using our barometric pressure calculator to see how air pressure changes at high altitudes. Or use the altitude oxygen graph to see how much less oxygen is available at any altitude.

The pictures above demonstrate the effect of altitude on barometric pressure. I sealed a plastic bottle like this one in La Paz, Bolivia, at an altitude of 3600m (about 12000ft). I then brought it home with me to Edinburgh (which is pretty much at sea level). As you can see, the pressure of the atmosphere pushing down on the bottle has caused it to collapse.

The same thing happens in reverse to sealed objects when you take them up to high altitudes. Above is a photograph of a roll-on deodorant that I sealed in London, then opened in La Paz. It exploded across my hotel room.

The body makes a wide range of changes in order to cope better with the lack of oxygen at high altitude. This process is called acclimatisation. If you don't acclimatise properly, you greatly increase your chance of developing altitude sickness, or even worse, HAPE (high altitude pulmonary oedema) or HACE (high altitude cerebral oedema).

Now I get this is somewhat extreme 12,000 feet and all but the difference is still there it still affects people differently. That is why when we travel to any place with a lower altitude we should be at an advantage.

Anyway learning lesson over and all it impacts people differently but to say it has no impact at all or it's overrated it's just not correct.

 

[laxwyo]

So, you're saying westwyopoke is incorrect in his assertion that taking oxygen during the game is worthless? That's my point. If there was enough oxygen for healthy lungs, there would never be a need for an unhealthy lung, which we know is false.
I live at 6200ft and recently hiked from creek (7800) to peek (10200) and my lungs could have used some extra O2. It's not that my lungs aren't getting enough O2, it's that they must start working harder, sooner than they normally would