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Jeremy Shyatt tweeted that there's a big time recruit visiting this weekend.

NowherePoke said:
Jack Bentz. Jeremy was just trolling us. Got me excited for a minute though.

No doubt. When he uses the red carpet line, usually there's a bad ass about to step on campus. I'm not saying that Jack Bentz isn't a bad ass. He's just a bad ass without any eligibility left. ;)
 
I don't think it was a troll about Jack Bentz. I think we are hosting a big time recruit. Beetdigger just posted about Cedric Russell on that other board, but I don't have a sub to that other board.

Is he in town this weekend, because this would qualify as a big time recruit and "red carpet" treatment?

He committed to LSU in 2014 and just decommitted in April.

This article says he's the number 5 combo guard in the 2017 class.

http://usatodayhss.com/2016/top-5-combo-guard-cedric-russell-de-commits-from-lsu-after-18-months?utm_source=feedblitz&utm_medium=FeedBlitzRss&utm_campaign=usatodaycomcollegemensbasketball-topstories

This one says the seventh ranked combo guard in the country and has Wyoming in his top 10.

http://www.nola.com/recruiting/index.ssf/2016/08/lsu_makes_top_10_for_peabody_2.html
 
Cowboy Junky said:
I don't think it was a troll about Jack Bentz. I think we are hosting a big time recruit. Beetdigger just posted about Cedric Russell on that other board, but I don't have a sub to that other board.

Is he in town this weekend, because this would qualify as a big time recruit and "red carpet" treatment?

He committed to LSU in 2014 and just decommitted in April.

This article says he's the number 5 combo guard in the 2017 class.

http://usatodayhss.com/2016/top-5-combo-guard-cedric-russell-de-commits-from-lsu-after-18-months?utm_source=feedblitz&utm_medium=FeedBlitzRss&utm_campaign=usatodaycomcollegemensbasketball-topstories

This one says the seventh ranked combo guard in the country and has Wyoming in his top 10.

http://www.nola.com/recruiting/index.ssf/2016/08/lsu_makes_top_10_for_peabody_2.html

BeerDigger's post was regarding the fact that we made Russell's top 10. To my knowledge a visit has not been reported yet.
 
This is just more great news! Seems like Wyoming is definitely in the mix for a top notch guard in this 2017 class. Cedric Russell looks like an amazing recruit as well. Coach Edwards is looking to recruit a game changer top 75 guard in the country type player for us. Love that he's making moves to try to make this team elite that year. I can't wait to see what happens :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
 
stymeman said:
I'd love to have 3 more Jack Bentz's anyday

I would love to never have another Jack Bentz, ever, on the roster at Wyoming (in the role he had on the roster at Wyoming). Great kid, admire what he did as a walk-on athlete on a D1 basketball program, and will always have the utmost respect for kids like Jack, and Jack himself. But I don't ever want to see a walk on running point at UW, air balling the shit out of everything, missing free throws, turning the ball over, etc.
 
McPeachy said:
stymeman said:
I'd love to have 3 more Jack Bentz's anyday

I would love to never have another Jack Bentz, ever, on the roster at Wyoming (in the role he had on the roster at Wyoming). Great kid, admire what he did as a walk-on athlete on a D1 basketball program, and will always have the utmost respect for kids like Jack, and Jack himself. But I don't ever want to see a walk on running point at UW, air balling the shit out of everything, missing free throws, turning the ball over, etc.
Was thinking the same thing. Nothing but respect for Jack and his contributions but I hope were moving past players like him. Hell we have a 4 star recruit walking on....
 
ItSucksToBeACSURam said:
McPeachy said:
stymeman said:
I'd love to have 3 more Jack Bentz's anyday

I would love to never have another Jack Bentz, ever, on the roster at Wyoming (in the role he had on the roster at Wyoming). Great kid, admire what he did as a walk-on athlete on a D1 basketball program, and will always have the utmost respect for kids like Jack, and Jack himself. But I don't ever want to see a walk on running point at UW, air balling the shit out of everything, missing free throws, turning the ball over, etc.
Was thinking the same thing. Nothing but respect for Jack and his contributions but I hope were moving past players like him. I would prefer walk ons like Hunter Thompson.......
 
Hunter is going to get a scholarship after his first year. You can bet on that.

It's not like we gave Bentz a scholarship for four years(or one for that matter). He was a walk-on. He came here on his own dime, worked his ass off, and didn't require one bit of financial investment from Wyoming. He was friends with Nance, which made it one hell of a lot less likely that Larry would get homesick and transfer away from Laramie.

In addition, he came up with some huge plays during the MWC tournament championship run.

Why would we want to get away from walk-ons that contribute to Wyoming winning MWC championships?

That's just stupid. We invested nothing and got contributions that helped us win a title banner.
 
Cowboy Junky said:
Hunter is going to get a scholarship after his first year. You can bet on that.

It's not like we gave Bentz a scholarship for four years(or one for that matter). He was a walk-on. He came here on his own dime, worked his ass off, and didn't require one bit of financial investment from Wyoming. He was friends with Nance, which made it one hell of a lot less likely that Larry would get homesick and transfer away from Laramie.

In addition, he came up with some huge plays during the MWC tournament championship run.

Why would we want to get away from walk-ons that contribute to Wyoming winning MWC championships?

That's just stupid. We invested nothing and got contributions that helped us win a title banner.
I agree. My comment was more tongue in cheek....
 
McPeachy said:
stymeman said:
I'd love to have 3 more Jack Bentz's anyday

I would love to never have another Jack Bentz, ever, on the roster at Wyoming (in the role he had on the roster at Wyoming). Great kid, admire what he did as a walk-on athlete on a D1 basketball program, and will always have the utmost respect for kids like Jack, and Jack himself. But I don't ever want to see a walk on running point at UW, air balling the shit out of everything, missing free throws, turning the ball over, etc.
LOL. me, too. Jack obviously didn't belong on a D-1 court. No offense to Jack.
 
Cowboy Junky said:
In addition, he came up with some huge plays during the MWC tournament championship run.

Bullshit.

Back on topic, as I stated, and you apparently glanced past reading it:

"Great kid, admire what he did as a walk-on athlete on a D1 basketball program, and will always have the utmost respect for kids like Jack, and Jack himself."
 
McPeachy said:
Cowboy Junky said:
In addition, he came up with some huge plays during the MWC tournament championship run.

Bullshit.

Back on topic, as I stated, and you apparently glanced past reading it:

"Great kid, admire what he did as a walk-on athlete on a D1 basketball program, and will always have the utmost respect for kids like Jack, and Jack himself."
I have to side with Peachy on this one. Definitely respect everything Jack did for UW and he will always be a Cowboy but we are capable of getting much better recruits and not rely on a walk on to play meaningful in the MWC championship.... Now that I say that watch out for Cody Kelley he might sneak into the line up from time to time.
 
McPeachy said:
Cowboy Junky said:
In addition, he came up with some huge plays during the MWC tournament championship run.

Bullshit.

Back on topic, as I stated, and you apparently glanced past reading it:

"Great kid, admire what he did as a walk-on athlete on a D1 basketball program, and will always have the utmost respect for kids like Jack, and Jack himself."

I'll see your bullshit and raise you a bullshit. :D

I don't have the effort or time to watch all the tournament games again, but Jack Bentz played great during the stretch run his senior year and during the tournament run. The rest of the time in Laramie, I would have to agree. He was a liability. He wasn't a liability during the lead in to the tourney and the tourney itself. He was money, not turning the ball over, piling up assists while he was on the floor, and actually making open shots. We we're lucky to have him. I don't know if we would have won the tourney without him.

Regardless, he cost us nothing, and he paid dividends in our championship run. To me, that seems like extreme value. We didn't have to burn a scholarship on him and he helped us win a trophy. You can't ask for more value than that.

It's a moot point though. Walk-ons are going to have to be pretty damn good to break into the line-up the new staff is recruiting. They might still have a chance at guard this year, but the future roster doesn't have the lack of depth that the old roster did.

I think Cody Kelly and that Redding kid will have a chance. The one area where we're still deficient is ball handling point guards. That may change if we get Parker or another good ball handler with our last scholarship though.
 
Cowboy Junky said:
McPeachy said:
Cowboy Junky said:
In addition, he came up with some huge plays during the MWC tournament championship run.

Bullshit.

Back on topic, as I stated, and you apparently glanced past reading it:

"Great kid, admire what he did as a walk-on athlete on a D1 basketball program, and will always have the utmost respect for kids like Jack, and Jack himself."

I'll see your bullshit and raise you a bullshit. :D

I don't have the effort or time to watch all the tournament games again, but Jack Bentz played great during the stretch run his senior year and during the tournament run. The rest of the time in Laramie, I would have to agree. He was a liability. He wasn't a liability during the lead in to the tourney and the tourney itself. He was money, not turning the ball over, piling up assists while he was on the floor, and actually making open shots. We we're lucky to have him. I don't know if we would have won the tourney without him.

Regardless, he cost us nothing, and he paid dividends in our championship run. To me, that seems like extreme value. We didn't have to burn a scholarship on him and he helped us win a trophy. You can't ask for more value than that.

It's a moot point though. Walk-ons are going to have to be pretty damn good to break into the line-up the new staff is recruiting. They might still have a chance at guard this year, but the future roster doesn't have the lack of depth that the old roster did.

I think Cody Kelly and that Redding kid will have a chance. The one area where we're still deficient is ball handling point guards. That may change if we get Parker or another good ball handler with our last scholarship though.

I think it's obvious based on our recruiting targets that the staff feels either Redding or Kelley will be capable of playing significant minutes at the point. Very few ball handling guards slated for our 2017-2018 scholarship allotment even if we do sign one with the last 2017 scholarship.
 
NowherePoke said:
Cowboy Junky said:
McPeachy said:
Cowboy Junky said:
In addition, he came up with some huge plays during the MWC tournament championship run.

Bullshit.

Back on topic, as I stated, and you apparently glanced past reading it:

"Great kid, admire what he did as a walk-on athlete on a D1 basketball program, and will always have the utmost respect for kids like Jack, and Jack himself."

I'll see your bullshit and raise you a bullshit. :D

I don't have the effort or time to watch all the tournament games again, but Jack Bentz played great during the stretch run his senior year and during the tournament run. The rest of the time in Laramie, I would have to agree. He was a liability. He wasn't a liability during the lead in to the tourney and the tourney itself. He was money, not turning the ball over, piling up assists while he was on the floor, and actually making open shots. We we're lucky to have him. I don't know if we would have won the tourney without him.

Regardless, he cost us nothing, and he paid dividends in our championship run. To me, that seems like extreme value. We didn't have to burn a scholarship on him and he helped us win a trophy. You can't ask for more value than that.

It's a moot point though. Walk-ons are going to have to be pretty damn good to break into the line-up the new staff is recruiting. They might still have a chance at guard this year, but the future roster doesn't have the lack of depth that the old roster did.

I think Cody Kelly and that Redding kid will have a chance. The one area where we're still deficient is ball handling point guards. That may change if we get Parker or another good ball handler with our last scholarship though.

I think it's obvious based on our recruiting targets that the staff feels either Redding or Kelley will be capable of playing significant minutes at the point. Very few ball handling guards slated for our 2017-2018 scholarship allotment even if we do sign one with the last 2017 scholarship.

Yep. We'll have to see if we get away from the ball handling point guard's that we've had since Shy came back. We don't see a lot of Brad Jones or Brandon Ewing's at point. We see Riley Grabau and Jeremy Lieberman: guys that aren't looked at for scoring, but are expected to calm the team down, pile up assists, hit free throws, and keep the turnovers to an absolute minimum. That might change under Edwards, but I still think we'll see the "safe option" at point.

I was impressed by Cody Kelley in the Bahamas. He struggled in the first game, but really grew up over the course of the trip. I wouldn't be surprised if he gets minutes this year. It will drive a lot of people crazy, but he's of the same mold as Lieberman and Grabau and this staff likes to have that option at point guard.
 
Cowboy Junky said:
NowherePoke said:
Cowboy Junky said:
McPeachy said:
Cowboy Junky said:
In addition, he came up with some huge plays during the MWC tournament championship run.

Bullshit.

Back on topic, as I stated, and you apparently glanced past reading it:

"Great kid, admire what he did as a walk-on athlete on a D1 basketball program, and will always have the utmost respect for kids like Jack, and Jack himself."

I'll see your bullshit and raise you a bullshit. :D

I don't have the effort or time to watch all the tournament games again, but Jack Bentz played great during the stretch run his senior year and during the tournament run. The rest of the time in Laramie, I would have to agree. He was a liability. He wasn't a liability during the lead in to the tourney and the tourney itself. He was money, not turning the ball over, piling up assists while he was on the floor, and actually making open shots. We we're lucky to have him. I don't know if we would have won the tourney without him.

Regardless, he cost us nothing, and he paid dividends in our championship run. To me, that seems like extreme value. We didn't have to burn a scholarship on him and he helped us win a trophy. You can't ask for more value than that.

It's a moot point though. Walk-ons are going to have to be pretty damn good to break into the line-up the new staff is recruiting. They might still have a chance at guard this year, but the future roster doesn't have the lack of depth that the old roster did.

I think Cody Kelly and that Redding kid will have a chance. The one area where we're still deficient is ball handling point guards. That may change if we get Parker or another good ball handler with our last scholarship though.

I think it's obvious based on our recruiting targets that the staff feels either Redding or Kelley will be capable of playing significant minutes at the point. Very few ball handling guards slated for our 2017-2018 scholarship allotment even if we do sign one with the last 2017 scholarship.

Yep. We'll have to see if we get away from the ball handling point guard's that we've had since Shy came back. We don't see a lot of Brad Jones or Brandon Ewing's at point. We see Riley Grabau and Jeremy Lieberman: guys that aren't looked at for scoring, but are expected to calm the team down, pile up assists, hit free throws, and keep the turnovers to an absolute minimum. That might change under Edwards, but I still think we'll see the "safe option" at point.

I was impressed by Cody Kelley in the Bahamas. He struggled in the first game, but really grew up over the course of the trip. I wouldn't be surprised if he gets minutes this year. It will drive a lot of people crazy, but he's of the same mold as Lieberman and Grabau and this staff likes to have that option at point guard.

I like Kelley a lot, but I am not sure how his game will translate to the MWC level. He plays with a really high energy level but he is really small. Usually, the only players that height at this level are big time athletes and Kelley isn't that.

Still, I really like the program landing that type of player. A Wyoming product who plays hard and was a legitimate High D2/borderline low major D1 recruit. He might not have had the type of recruitment Hunter Thompson had, but he could be on scholarship somewhere right now (even if D2), yet he chose to walk on at UW. That's a great sign.
 
NowherePoke said:
Cowboy Junky said:
NowherePoke said:
Cowboy Junky said:
McPeachy said:
Cowboy Junky said:
In addition, he came up with some huge plays during the MWC tournament championship run.

Bullshit.

Back on topic, as I stated, and you apparently glanced past reading it:

"Great kid, admire what he did as a walk-on athlete on a D1 basketball program, and will always have the utmost respect for kids like Jack, and Jack himself."

I'll see your bullshit and raise you a bullshit. :D

I don't have the effort or time to watch all the tournament games again, but Jack Bentz played great during the stretch run his senior year and during the tournament run. The rest of the time in Laramie, I would have to agree. He was a liability. He wasn't a liability during the lead in to the tourney and the tourney itself. He was money, not turning the ball over, piling up assists while he was on the floor, and actually making open shots. We we're lucky to have him. I don't know if we would have won the tourney without him.

Regardless, he cost us nothing, and he paid dividends in our championship run. To me, that seems like extreme value. We didn't have to burn a scholarship on him and he helped us win a trophy. You can't ask for more value than that.

It's a moot point though. Walk-ons are going to have to be pretty damn good to break into the line-up the new staff is recruiting. They might still have a chance at guard this year, but the future roster doesn't have the lack of depth that the old roster did.

I think Cody Kelly and that Redding kid will have a chance. The one area where we're still deficient is ball handling point guards. That may change if we get Parker or another good ball handler with our last scholarship though.

I think it's obvious based on our recruiting targets that the staff feels either Redding or Kelley will be capable of playing significant minutes at the point. Very few ball handling guards slated for our 2017-2018 scholarship allotment even if we do sign one with the last 2017 scholarship.

Yep. We'll have to see if we get away from the ball handling point guard's that we've had since Shy came back. We don't see a lot of Brad Jones or Brandon Ewing's at point. We see Riley Grabau and Jeremy Lieberman: guys that aren't looked at for scoring, but are expected to calm the team down, pile up assists, hit free throws, and keep the turnovers to an absolute minimum. That might change under Edwards, but I still think we'll see the "safe option" at point.

I was impressed by Cody Kelley in the Bahamas. He struggled in the first game, but really grew up over the course of the trip. I wouldn't be surprised if he gets minutes this year. It will drive a lot of people crazy, but he's of the same mold as Lieberman and Grabau and this staff likes to have that option at point guard.

I like Kelley a lot, but I am not sure how his game will translate to the MWC level. He plays with a really high energy level but he is really small. Usually, the only players that height at this level are big time athletes and Kelley isn't that.

Still, I really like the program landing that type of player. A Wyoming product who plays hard and was a legitimate High D2/borderline low major D1 recruit. He might not have had the type of recruitment Hunter Thompson had, but he could be on scholarship somewhere right now (even if D2), yet he chose to walk on at UW. That's a great sign.

Agreed.

I don't know how much his height will limit him. It doesn't keep him from hitting free throws or being that calming influence the coaches like at point. He might have a hard time getting the ball out of traps or feeding the post. Defensively, he's a liability, but it's a liability our staff has been comfortable with and worked with for the entire time they've been here. There will always be a spot on the floor for a guy that can take an inbounds pass, get fouled, and bury his free throws at 90 percent. That's not going away. Grabau won us at least a dozen games with his free throws.

Kelly is a competitive kid. I didn't expect much out of him in the Bahamas and you could see significant improvement over three games. The last team we played was the best team we played the entire time we we're down there. All three teams we played had a lot of athleticism and he played pretty well.

I think Lieberman is about 6'1", so this picture would say that Cody is about 5'10 or 5'11. You might be right. He could be too short.

https://twitter.com/wyo_mbb

I don't think that type of guy is going away though. It will make a lot of Wyoming fans unhappy as Grabau, Bentz, and Lieberman weren't universally loved by Wyoming fans, to say the least.

Maybe they will have Louis Adams bring the ball up this year. They did that a lot with Josh Adams last year, although both of them are scorers/drivers and more likely to turn it over.

We'll see. About the only position on the floor that I can see a walk-on not named Hunter having an impact is at guard. The roster has too many bigs for any walk-on to break into the front court.
 
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