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Jeff Tedford to Wyoming?

MileHighCowboy said:
If DeRuyter goes to Washington and Tedford goes to Fresno, I hope we look at Mangino. I just have a feeling it then becomes Fritz or GIlmore for Burman. I'm sure both guys would do their best, but I'm tired of on-the-job training for first time D1 head coaches...

I don't want to trade "on-the-job training for first time D1 head coaches" for "working overtime to scrub the image of a guy who lost his last job because he got a reputation as an abusive tyrant."
 
Okay, this is just getting ridiculous. Just hire me. I sport a 72-17 record. 2 states! 2 runner ups. 1-1 and two different schools. Have boasted the number 1 rushing team in two states. WYO and Kansas. As well as keep the d honest with a strict passing game. I've been number 1 in two different states with three different teams in overall offense. As well as coached D. I do let my safety's and CBs practice route running and receiving drills. It has paid off putting my teams in the top 10 the last three years in INTs and pass break ups.

I expect great things if I get the job. I need no more than 100k a year. Everything else goes to Asst. Coaches and recruiting. Shoot! I don't even care if an assist makes more than me.
I know where to find some big farm boys for O linemen and some fast ant shifty guys that are well under the radar right now.
And with the talent coming back, I think I can give Oregon and MSU a run for their money in year one!
Yep, screw it! Go for the dedicated guy who will stay, work his ass off, cause it's his dream job, will work cheap and will build something great!
 
Wyovanian said:
There are operational and capital funds still out there, I guarantee it. Raid 'em, put the contractors and creditors on notice...

Does this strike anyone else as a dangerous idea?
 
Unread postby WyoExpat » Wed Dec 04, 2013 3:10 pm

Wyovanian wrote:
There are operational and capital funds still out there, I guarantee it. Raid 'em, put the contractors and creditors on notice...


Does this strike anyone else as a dangerous idea?

Obviously. And silly.
 
Cowduck said:
MileHighCowboy said:
If DeRuyter goes to Washington and Tedford goes to Fresno, I hope we look at Mangino. I just have a feeling it then becomes Fritz or GIlmore for Burman. I'm sure both guys would do their best, but I'm tired of on-the-job training for first time D1 head coaches...

I don't want to trade "on-the-job training for first time D1 head coaches" for "working overtime to scrub the image of a guy who lost his last job because he got a reputation as an abusive tyrant."

Mangino has had anger issues, no denying that. But a lot of it was blown out of proportion by KU's AD at the time, in order that he could fire for cause and reduce the buyout. Mangino seems to have toned it down since then

http://www2.kusports.com/news/2013/aug/17/ex-ku-coach-mark-mangino-building-happy-healthy-li/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 
SnowyRange said:
Nonsense.There are operational and capital funds still out there, I guarantee it. Raid 'em, put the contractors and creditors on notice and restructure payments in a sustainable manner to get through the state budgeting process, then clean it all up.

Look, this is do or die for Wyoming Football. They don't risk some creative re-budgeting, you can kiss FBS Football at Wyoming goodbye.

You have no clue.

If there are big new funds coming to pay the coach, they'll come from CJC or the Foundation, not from the University budget.
No, it's becoming apparent that you have no clue. Injecting new financial life into UW Athletics is an investment in the future of the whole school. and the state has plenty of money to invest. Instead, they stuff it under the mattress.

You can belong to the clan huddled around a cold fire ring, waiting for lightning to strike, or you can figure out how to strike your own sparks. No great athlete got big by waiting for crumbs from the table.
 
No, it's becoming apparent that you have no clue. Injecting new financial life into UW Athletics is an investment in the future of the whole school. and the state has plenty of money to invest. Instead, they stuff it under the mattress.

You can belong to the clan huddled around a cold fire ring, waiting for lightning to strike, or you can figure out how to strike your own sparks. No great athlete got big by waiting for crumbs from the table.

The CJC and the Foundation may have money to give toward a coach's salary.

But, no, the University doesn't have some secret pool for a football coach salary.

These are just realities.
 
MileHighCowboy said:
Cowduck said:
MileHighCowboy said:
If DeRuyter goes to Washington and Tedford goes to Fresno, I hope we look at Mangino. I just have a feeling it then becomes Fritz or GIlmore for Burman. I'm sure both guys would do their best, but I'm tired of on-the-job training for first time D1 head coaches...

I don't want to trade "on-the-job training for first time D1 head coaches" for "working overtime to scrub the image of a guy who lost his last job because he got a reputation as an abusive tyrant."

Mangino has had anger issues, no denying that. But a lot of it was blown out of proportion by KU's AD at the time, in order that he could fire for cause and reduce the buyout. Mangino seems to have toned it down since then

http://www2.kusports.com/news/2013/aug/17/ex-ku-coach-mark-mangino-building-happy-healthy-li/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It seems to me they were overblown too, but my point is having to wage a PR campaign to rectify it for the benefit of boosters and recruits is more trouble than it's worth.
 
SnowyRange said:
No, it's becoming apparent that you have no clue. Injecting new financial life into UW Athletics is an investment in the future of the whole school. and the state has plenty of money to invest. Instead, they stuff it under the mattress.

You can belong to the clan huddled around a cold fire ring, waiting for lightning to strike, or you can figure out how to strike your own sparks. No great athlete got big by waiting for crumbs from the table.

The CJC and the Foundation may have money to give toward a coach's salary.

But, no, the University doesn't have some secret pool for a football coach salary.

These are just realities.
Who said anything about a "secret pool"? Use of existing funds is hardly a "secret pool" or somehow magical, nor unheard of or impractical.

What you call "reality" others call an obstacle- something to overcome, in whatever way possible.

Nothing is more satisfying than seeing someone who says, "It can't be done," getting passed by someone doing "it".
 
Who said anything about a "secret pool"?

What you call "reality" others call an obstacle- something to overcome, in whatever way possible.

Nothing is more satisfying than seeing someone who says, "It can't be done," getting passed by someone doing "it".

You've receded into the mists of a fantasy land.

The University budget couldn't even afford to do the Sternberg payout deal.
 
SnowyRange said:
The University budget couldn't even afford to do the Sternberg payout deal.

Really? You truthfully believe that? :whistle:

And just for clarification, a budget is a budget. Not a fund, not an account, not a P&L, nothing but a guideline.
 
SnowyRange said:
Who said anything about a "secret pool"?

What you call "reality" others call an obstacle- something to overcome, in whatever way possible.

Nothing is more satisfying than seeing someone who says, "It can't be done," getting passed by someone doing "it".

You've receded into the mists of a fantasy land.

The University budget couldn't even afford to do the Sternberg payout deal.
Completely different situation with far less urgency.

And you're utterly misinformed if you think the University is under-funded because the state has no money. Wyoming is the crazy old soup kitchen hermit sleeping on millions in silver coins in his clapboard hovel.
 
SnowyRange said:
Who said anything about a "secret pool"?

What you call "reality" others call an obstacle- something to overcome, in whatever way possible.

Nothing is more satisfying than seeing someone who says, "It can't be done," getting passed by someone doing "it".

You've receded into the mists of a fantasy land.

The University budget couldn't even afford to do the Sternberg payout deal.
I get the feeling there's not much difference, for you, between ambition and fantasy. You are beginning to sound like the "good 'nuff" poster child.
 
Wyovanian said:
SnowyRange said:
Who said anything about a "secret pool"?

What you call "reality" others call an obstacle- something to overcome, in whatever way possible.

Nothing is more satisfying than seeing someone who says, "It can't be done," getting passed by someone doing "it".

You've receded into the mists of a fantasy land.

The University budget couldn't even afford to do the Sternberg payout deal.
I get the feeling there's not much difference, for you, between ambition and fantasy. You are beginning to sound like the "good 'nuff" poster child.

I was wondering the same thing. Could it be SnowyRange = Tom Burman?
 
Wyokie said:
Wyovanian said:
SnowyRange said:
Who said anything about a "secret pool"?

What you call "reality" others call an obstacle- something to overcome, in whatever way possible.

Nothing is more satisfying than seeing someone who says, "It can't be done," getting passed by someone doing "it".

You've receded into the mists of a fantasy land.

The University budget couldn't even afford to do the Sternberg payout deal.
I get the feeling there's not much difference, for you, between ambition and fantasy. You are beginning to sound like the "good 'nuff" poster child.

I was wondering the same thing. Could it be SnowyRange = Tom Burman?
Anyone who believes an enterprise the size of UW operates down to it's last dollar is definitely not familiar with operating much beyond a lemonade stand. I honestly believe the "good 'nuff" culture stems from a disbelief in achievement beyond their own personal experience and ken.
 
McPeachy said:
SnowyRange said:
The University budget couldn't even afford to do the Sternberg payout deal.

Really? You truthfully believe that? :whistle:

And just for clarification, a budget is a budget. Not a fund, not an account, not a P&L, nothing but a guideline.
clearly an accountant he is not...
 

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