OrediggerPoke
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Bohl hires within.
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Jake Dickert Promoted to DC
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Wyokie said:
Agreed Wyokie. Dickert doesn't exactly have a lengthy resume, you can read about it here:
https://gowyo.com/coaches.aspx?rc=1235&path=football
I'm not saying he isn't going to be any good, but damn, going from an NFL guy to a guy who has mostly coached at the DII level as your main guy....I don't get it. Hope he proves to be a great hire, but if not, I agree it could be the nail in Bohl's coaching coffin.
LanderPoke
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Eh, this is pretty underwhelming. I guess we'll see how things go. I hope he took copious notes from Hazelton
WestWYOPoke
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Reality said:
You know who else played D3 football? Bill Belichick! And I think most would agree that he's decent.
Hell, Hazelton played at a D2, and not a very good D2 (Fort Lewis), so not sure what paying career has to do with it.
This hire doesn't surprise me, at this time of year Bohl was going to have a hell of a time bringing in anyone that would be a significant improvement over internal candidates.
TSpoke
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I have no problem with this hire. He was with Bohl in ND, he was a successful DC at a smaller school then spent the last couple years here at UW coaching our best unit position. I say he has earned a shot.
It wasn't a can't miss hire but often times promotions from within work out great and can lead to coaches sticking around longer if they are successful.
It wasn't a can't miss hire but often times promotions from within work out great and can lead to coaches sticking around longer if they are successful.
Asmodeanreborn
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TSpoke said:
This is the main thing that makes me hopeful. He's helped develop some really solid players and had two years of Hazelton's guidance. He's not likely to completely change any systems, so the players should be pretty comfortable.
That said, with how many key players our defense has lost, he definitely doesn't have the odds stacked in his favor.
ragtimejoe1
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I trust Bohl knows what he's doing and I'm sure the timeline wasn't great. Still, I wonder how much searching they did? The salary Burman had in place for DC was very respectable (I'm assuming it went down with this hire).
Regardless, hiring within, keeping Vigen, and 6 years in should make this year a judgement- like year for the direction of the program under Bohl. Beating a bunch of CFB dregs to get to 6 wins, IMO, won't be sufficient.
I like Bohl and think he's on the right track. Still, I think there needs to be significant progress this season.
Regardless, hiring within, keeping Vigen, and 6 years in should make this year a judgement- like year for the direction of the program under Bohl. Beating a bunch of CFB dregs to get to 6 wins, IMO, won't be sufficient.
I like Bohl and think he's on the right track. Still, I think there needs to be significant progress this season.
gopokes1399
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The reach is saying that this hire could get Bohl fired before spring ball has even started for Dickert.
Bohl will get a new DC before he is fired and it is gonna take a lot for him to ever be fired anyway. I think Bohl has earned trust on his decisions and choices at this point. Why don't we let this one play out before we make any more leaps...
Bohl will get a new DC before he is fired and it is gonna take a lot for him to ever be fired anyway. I think Bohl has earned trust on his decisions and choices at this point. Why don't we let this one play out before we make any more leaps...
OrediggerPoke
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Agreed. This hire in no way will determine Bohl's job at Wyoming at least for the next 3 years or so. Bohl's job is pretty darn safe after guiding the Pokes to 3 consecutive bowl eligible seasons for the first time in a long time. Those that think Bohl's job is currently on the line are very misguided.gopokes1399 said:
Addressing other points:
Personally, I believed that we should have looked outside the program to try and bring in another Hazelton type given the significant amount of money that we likely had to pay a DC. However, that said, Dickert has experience as a defensive coordinator and was successful in those stints. That speaks well. It wasn't D3 btw. He led scholarship level D2 Minnesota-State Mankato all the way to the National Championship as a defensive coordinator. And the year he led MSU-Mankato (2014), that MSU team likely could have been competitive in a game and kept it close against Wyoming (4-8).
When Hazelton left, I stated that it was likely that Wyoming would hire in-house given the timing of everything. I believed it was going to be AJ Cooper. It is significant that Cooper was just named as 'run game defensive coordinator' as that indicates to me that Bohl had a difficult time choosing between the two. What I do want to see is the increase in pay that Cooper and Dickert are likely to get. I don't believe that either should be close to Hazelton's prior pay at this point and hopefully we can put the excess money to use elsewhere (perhaps offensive coaches).
OrediggerPoke
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Reality said:
What the hell does that mean? Football is football regardless as to the level. Many successful coaches played at all levels during their playing days and then went on to coach at different levels. Some coaches (a minority) never even actually played in college. Being a successful football coach requires a lot of skills (intelligence, management, communication, etc...). One skill that it doesn't require...an athletic ability to play at a Division 1 level which most people don't have as they weren't born with genes that would make them run really fast or grow to a certain size.
OrediggerPoke
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PS. I suppose Mike Leach is a terrible football coach that knows nothing about the game of football because the last time he appeared on a football field as a player was his Junior Year of High School for the Cody Broncs where he rode the bench.OrediggerPoke said:
ragtimejoe1
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gopokes1399 said:
To be clear, I'm not suggesting Bohl will be fired for this hire but I'm also not on the 3 year regardless bandwagon.
I know I'm in the minority, but the last 2 seasons were not "all that" to me; last season especially. I think Bohl is doing a good job and will make significant progress. However, I also don't think he's earned 3 more years regardless of yearly performance. Realistically, we've had the worst season in WYO history, another bad season, a really good season, and a couple mediocre seasons.
carbonpoke
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After thinking this over, I'm not disappointed by this. We have a scheme in place from Hazelton that should stay. I'm not sure how much bohl was involved in it creation, but hiring a guy that understands what worked... Blitz frequency, db spacing, down and distance calls....
It isn't as bad as it seems I feel. Dickert has a chance to keep the good stuff going
It isn't as bad as it seems I feel. Dickert has a chance to keep the good stuff going
carbonpoke said:
There is definitely no shock and awe behind this hire. It seems pretty boring, and this is going to make for a long off season now as we have 10 months to figure out if this was a good hire or not. We won't even begin to know for another 7 months.
I think this is probably a different situation from the Stanard hire. Bohl is focused on this team the last 5 years, he knows his staff inside and out. He isn't trying to build a new staff and move to a different state.
My biggest concern is experience - how does he handle the up's and downs between the different recruiting classes and adjust to that? Hazelton seemed to do a pretty good job of getting different units to step up when others were underperforming. He also did a hell of a job analyzing other offenses and coming up with defensive strategies to disguise coverage and confuse the hell out of the offense. About the only thing they knew was Hazelton would do what he could to stop the run - that was the #1 priority.
Hopefully, this is like Roach bringing in Tiller as OC - and tiller finds the former coaches offensive playbook, runs with it, develops it, and masters it.
Frankly, I think 2019 is going to be a good year on offense. We are going to take a step or two back on defense - and I hope it isn't too many steps back.
