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It is what it is!

7220Fan

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First, let me say that I love my Cowboys and second, I loathe BYU.

But, I think that this is the absolute best thing for this conference! It is obvious that their school leaders, their students, their coaches and players, and most of all their fans think and truely believe that they are extremely above everyone else, (including Utah which I believe this is all about).

I do not think that this is really about the MWC. I think that the MWC is BYU's scapegoat in all of this mess. BYU is like the little child that was scorned and now are saying.. "oh yah?? watch this!!" When a conference, the pac-10, ignored BYU's plea to become a member, largely because of the religous aspect and took Utah instead, they were humilated and their ego was extremely bruised. And just like anyone that gets backed into a corner and they get embarrassed, BYU came out swinging and they took their frustrations out on the MWC, negotiating with the WAC and commenting on issues that they should have not said in public. When Thompson counterpunched with Fresno and Nevada, I do not think they were ready for that and that left them in no man's land. Poor, poor, BYU!! Woe is us!

To try and save face, and their pride, the only way that they will be able to show Utah that they are better than them is to go independent in football. Knowing that the MWC wasn't going to lay down for them and let them run the show or they weren't going to be "any better" than any other member of our conference, going independent and actually making it work is the only option to prove to Utah that they are better.

But let me say this. BYU's lack of judgement and extreme pride might actually destroy what they have spent many years in athletics, to build up. Their fans are putting as many spins on this as they can and what I can gather by reading their message boards, it sounds like they are trying to brainwash and talk themselves into this being a good thing, the only thing that could of happened because of our superiority. They fully expect not to be independent very long because they will be invited to the Big12 in the next few years and that will show Utah who is boss!! Once again, if no invitation comes along, then what? Contrary to popular belief BYU.... you are NOT followed around the country like Notre Dame is and you NEVER, NEVER, will be!! But you won't listen, just like a child won't, and that again just might be your demise. For us that are in the "horrible situation called the MWC"... we don't mind and are rooting for this to happen!

So from Wyoming, CSU, UNLV, TCU, SDSU, N MEX, Air Force, Boise St, Nevada, and Fresno St..... we lift our beer glasses (I know this is against your rules, but not ours!!) and we toast to your hopeful demise and crushing defeats in all your sports... especially in football and basketball!!!!!! and we hope that you land safely on your feet in the Big Sky Conference in 9 or 10 years!!!
 
7220Fan said:
But, I think that this is the absolute best thing for this conference! It is obvious that their school leaders, their students, their coaches and players, and most of all their fans think and truely believe that they are extremely above everyone else, (including Utah which I believe this is all about).

I do not think that this is really about the MWC. I think that the MWC is BYU's scapegoat in all of this mess. BYU is like the little child that was scorned and now are saying.. "oh yah?? watch this!!" When a conference, the pac-10, ignored BYU's plea to become a member, largely because of the religous aspect and took Utah instead, they were humilated and their ego was extremely bruised. And just like anyone that gets backed into a corner and they get embarrassed, BYU came out swinging and they took their frustrations out on the MWC, negotiating with the WAC and commenting on issues that they should have not said in public. When Thompson counterpunched with Fresno and Nevada, I do not think they were ready for that and that left them in no man's land. Poor, poor, BYU!! Woe is us!

To try and save face, and their pride, the only way that they will be able to show Utah that they are better than them is to go independent in football. Knowing that the MWC wasn't going to lay down for them and let them run the show or they weren't going to be "any better" than any other member of our conference, going independent and actually making it work is the only option to prove to Utah that they are better.

I know this is a fun theory to throw around, but it shows a complete misunderstanding of the BYU/Utah relationship. BYU and Utah are rivals, no question. Utah definitely looked out for their own interest when going to the PAC 10, and good for them. But BYU never had any thoughts of going to the PAC10 - they didn't pass us over for Utah. They just don't want an LDS school in their conference. We know that. What you don't realize, and don't want to accept, is that BYU has been planning for such a move for a long time. The only reason we didn't do it earlier is because we didn't want to leave Utah stuck by themselves in a weak conference. Now that they have found a new home, BYU can now make its move. The relationship between Utah and BYU will be even stronger. It's like two brothers who like to fight, but bring in a third party that wants to fight and BYU/Utah will stand together. Just watch.

7220Fan said:
So from Wyoming, CSU, UNLV, TCU, SDSU, N MEX, Air Force, Boise St, Nevada, and Fresno St..... we lift our beer glasses (I know this is against your rules, but not ours!!) and we toast to your hopeful demise and crushing defeats in all your sports... especially in football and basketball!!!!!! and we hope that you land safely on your feet in the Big Sky Conference in 9 or 10 years!!!

Just reread the list of teams you just rattled off. That's why we left. We will now play much better teams on our own terms.
 
allcoug said:
That's why we left. We will now play much better teams on our own terms.

Let me be the first Wyonation poster to say...

GTFO

You don't belong here. Take your comical superiority and beat it asshat.
 
allcoug said:
BYU is like the little child that was scorned and now are saying.. "oh yah?? watch this!!"

Nailed it. And I still say, good riddance! :lol:

And I must say that I'm much more impressed with Thomspon now than previously. He handled this pretty well IMO and I think saved the MWC. Now, we just need to carefully consider who to add next year in order to advance the quest to AQ status.

GO POKES!
 
Maybe.. except you'll be playing WAC teams.. who are, by and large, definitely not as good as MWC teams. You may get a couple good games a year with upper echelon teams, but otherwise it's going to be filled with crappy teams. Notre Dame isn't exactly beating down the door with a strong schedule year in and year out.
 
allcoug said:
The only reason we didn't do it earlier is because we didn't want to leave Utah stuck by themselves in a weak conference.

HA! Now we're supposed to believe that BYU was holding itself back for Utah's benefit :lol:

Dude, you're reaching. But keep telling yourself that this is going to be a good thing for BYU in the long run and that you'll actually get an invite to the Big 12. it's nice to dream, isn't it?

allcoug said:
We will now play much better teams on our own terms.

Good luck with that. 5 or 6 medicore WAC teams don't qualify as much better teams.

GO POKES!
 
7220Fan said:
But, I think that this is the absolute best thing for this conference! It is obvious that their school leaders, their students, their coaches and players, and most of all their fans think and truely believe that they are extremely above everyone else, (including Utah which I believe this is all about).
So from Wyoming, CSU, UNLV, TCU, SDSU, N MEX, Air Force, Boise St, Nevada, and Fresno St..... we lift our beer glasses (I know this is against your rules, but not ours!!) and we toast to your hopeful demise and crushing defeats in all your sports... especially in football and basketball!!!!!! and we hope that you land safely on your feet in the Big Sky Conference in 9 or 10 years!!!


Allcoug, a question for you. First, you just proved my point that you dilusional BYU fans think that you are better than everyone else... How? and Why? And then to top it off... you people don't understand... "why does everybody hate us so bad??" (like a little 7 yr old would say with his bottom lip sticking out!) I saw some of your fans on the message board actually write that. And it is not just the MWC that can't stand BYU.. it's everybody! A friend of mine out east called me and asked me what was going on with this. He doesn't have a dog in the fight but said..."they really think they are that good?.... They are whacked in the freakin head!! YES THEY ARE!!! but we don't have to worry about them anymore....THANK GAWD!!!!

Second, those teams that I mentioned... the MWC?? I see that you guys just signed on to play series with N Mex St? San Jose St? Hawaii? Where can I get tickets for those barnburners?? Allcoug, you have proved to me that besides being completely dilusional, you are one gigantic jack-ass and I don't see any reason for you to come back on ANY MWC board anymore because YOU DON'T BELONG!!!! Go get on Portland St or St. Mary's board you retard!!! Later!!
 
I will miss Utah but am glad BYU is gone. The big question is, who will step into BYU's third place spot?

Hope the cougars enjoy a steady diet of crap teams after October 1 every year. Guess they'll have Notre Dame, Army, and Navy, but who else not seeking a money game is going to play BYU once conference games start? I'd say you'll get a steady diet of Northern Texas, Utah State, and FCS teams that time of year.

And I can't wait to see the rowdy crowd in the Marriot center when that long time rival San Francisco or St Mary's comes to town.

I will definately enjoy seeing the demise of BYU athletics from afar. Try winning the conference before you think you are above it.
 

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