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I'm more then a little pissed about hill

pokefanchaz7

pokefanchaz7

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If it was truly for breaking curfew then I'm pissed that he missed 1/4 of the game for it. Especially when we really needed his rushing in the first half.

The fans from Wyoming spent hundreds of dollars to see him play. He earned a pass by doing right his entire career and this team deserved to have the best team on the field for their post season reward.

Unless he breaks the law I think a stern lecture and if he comes back some extra conditioning would be sufficient.

I'm being an emotional fan I admit but the more I think about it the angrier I get. This is a bowl game for goodness sakes, the reward for your season accomplishments by punishing him for the first quarter he punished the whole team.

I also am pissed at Brian hill for violating team rules but feel like 1/4 of a bowl game was a bit excessive. I wouldn't complain about it so much if we won but losing by three points against byu makes it sting that much more.


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Nah. You break the rules, you face the consequences. You're held accountable to yourself, the team, the coaches and the fans...no matter who you are. That's how you build a team.
 
But why punish the whole team for the indiscretion. Make him sit the first series but 1/4 of your only bowl game in that fantastic career? I think he earned a pass.
 
I tend to agree that it is BS for him to sit a whole quarter. Unfortunately because we haven't been told what happened all we can do is speculate. And based on that speculation (curfew violation) I think it is excessive.
 
I'm pissed at Hill, not the coaching staff. Rules exist for a reason, and if you break them, you pay the consequences. He knew the rules, and broke them anyway. In my mind, Bohl made a statement about this team and his commitment to it by enforcing the penalty. No one is above the rules, not even the star running back.

I think the game turns out differently if Hill plays the first quarter. But it also turns out differently if Wood doesn't muff that snap, if Allen doesn't throw the interceptions, or if Appleby, Granderson, and May are still playing.

And it wouldn't sting so much if it wasn't against BwhYU.

But the Pokes delivered a season that none of us were expecting, and I think we're set up for more success next year. I'm looking forward to it.

GO POKES!
 
wellpoke said:
I'm pissed at Hill, not the coaching staff. Rules exist for a reason, and if you break them, you pay the consequences. He knew the rules, and broke them anyway. In my mind, Bohl made a statement about this team and his commitment to it by enforcing the penalty. No one is above the rules, not even the star running back.

I think the game turns out differently if Hill plays the first quarter. But it also turns out differently if Wood doesn't muff that snap, if Allen doesn't throw the interceptions, or if Appleby, Granderson, and May are still playing.

And it wouldn't sting so much if it wasn't against BwhYU.

But the Pokes delivered a season that none of us were expecting, and I think we're set up for more success next year. I'm looking forward to it.

GO POKES!
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This to me is the difference in the game. We have those three, we win not only this game but the conference championship. We just didnt have ENOUGH horses down the stretch. The good news? The young players who saw big playing time this season, will be ahead of schedule and will become horses themselves. Guys like Prosser are going to be ballers.
 
It would just be nice to know what rules were in fact broken. What warranted a whole quarter of riding the pine? If you don't fill in the blank fans will. Maybe it very much was warranted, and a simple "Brian broke some team rules regarding game preparation" along those lines would suffice for me. I wasn't able to make the trip to SD, but if I had and dropped significant cash, I'd like to at least know.
 
Hill broke a rule that warranted sitting for 1 quarter. The idea that he earned a free pass to get in trouble and face no consequences is bs. You build a team not play favorites. If hill wants to be selfish to the point it hurts the whole team that's his fault. Not bohls for not giving him special treatment.
 
Not saying special treatment but find another punishment. I think sitting the first series would be fine.

Like I said assuming it's only a curfew violation it seems harsh




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I'm guessing the punishment for breaking any given rule is well-known to everybody ahead of time?

We didn't lose the game because of Hill. The weather was a far bigger factor, unfortunately. BYU is fine with not having to throw the ball, and we saw why. Their QB was rewarded for the dumbest throw of the day (unlike Allen's, it wasn't even desperation time), and I hope that means he'll do plenty more of those in the future, but with the deserved outcome rather than a touchdown.
 
Hill isn't above anyone on the team. It's part of our winning culture. That said, thank you, Brian, for everything. We'll be rooting hard for whatever you do.
 
LanderPoke said:
Hill isn't above anyone on the team. It's part of our winning culture. That said, thank you, Brian, for everything. We'll be rooting hard for whatever you do.
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I like this post, agreed


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pokefanchaz7 said:
If it was truly for breaking curfew then I'm pissed that he missed 1/4 of the game for it. Especially when we really needed his rushing in the first half.

The fans from Wyoming spent hundreds of dollars to see him play. He earned a pass by doing right his entire career and this team deserved to have the best team on the field for their post season reward.

Unless he breaks the law I think a stern lecture and if he comes back some extra conditioning would be sufficient.

I'm being an emotional fan I admit but the more I think about it the angrier I get. This is a bowl game for goodness sakes, the reward for your season accomplishments by punishing him for the first quarter he punished the whole team.

I also am pissed at Brian hill for violating team rules but feel like 1/4 of a bowl game was a bit excessive. I wouldn't complain about it so much if we won but losing by three points against byu makes it sting that much more.


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Or Brian Hill could have been thinking of doing the best for the team for the first bowl game in 5 years, rather than thinking of himself, and not broken team rules. If coaches give him a pass, then you build dissention in the team with non-star players getting punishment while star players get free passes. Team rules are known before-hand. Whatever team rule he broke, he could have waited till today to do that and not hurt the team. To me the blame lies squarely on his shoulders for missing a quarter, not for the coaching staff for punishing him for a quarter. In fact it wouldn't surprise me if the 1Q was a bit of a pass. If this was the first game of the season that might of been a suspension for 1H or 1 game rather than only a quarter.
 
Doesn't show a good message to the team if Hill gets a pass because we need him, or let's say Nico Evans has to sit because we don't necessarily need him. Hill should have known better plain and simple. Know your situation on an off the field. This was a big game for many reasons. Traditional rivalry game, first bowl game in a number of years and the ability to get off a losing streak and he broke teams rules which are in place for a reason.
 
LanderPoke said:
Hill isn't above anyone on the team. It's part of our winning culture. That said, thank you, Brian, for everything. We'll be rooting hard for whatever you do.
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Yep, well said.

On a side note, Brian Hill is good guy (from the mouth of a few people inside the department). Everyone makes mistakes. While certainly this was not the opportune time to make a mistake, it shouldn't change our opinion of him one way or another. He certainly isn't 'smoody' or whatever that guy called himself.
 
I am willing to bet it was more than just curfew. I think if it was just curfew, Wyo would have said something. To get suspended for a full quarter of a bowl game? Me thinks it was more than curfew, but they are just going to say it was curfew.
 
Cougsbroncsjazz said:
As a fan of college sports I'm glad to see a coach stick to his guns despite the pressure. We need more of this.
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I hate agreeing with a coug but.......I agree.

Oklahoma kept Joe Mixon on the team eventhough it very clearly showed on a security video tape him punching a girl really really hard at a area restaurant in 2014....but they kept him knowing full well they don't have a running game without him. He's part of the reason they won the 2016 Big XII Championship!

So in that regard, I'm glad Bohl punished Hill. Hill's off the field mistake help cost us a big win over the maggots!!!!

No offense, CBJ. I just don't like BYU!!!!!
 
You are all right of course I just REALLY wanted to win this game and am not as ethical an coach Bohl. In honesty though this may pay off in recruiting as coach showed integrity is more important then winning.


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pokefanchaz7 said:
You are all right of course I just REALLY wanted to win this game and am not as ethical an coach Bohl. In honesty though this may pay off in recruiting as coach showed integrity is more important then winning.
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Bohl has far more integrity than Bob Stoops will ever have!!! In Stoops defense, he does make $8 million a year so integrity goes out the window fast here in Oklahoma!!!!
 
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