LanderPoke
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then I think the rebuild won't be too painful. There's five players right there. Milton is not bad either. A good coach would have made something of this team this year. :|
But they make think they died and went to heaven.stymeman said:If they decide to stay as well, they will sure be battle tested
Vt poke said:I think there is a fair amount of talent on this team. Whoever coaches this team just needs to put the pieces of the puzzle together. I think all these players have shown glimpses of talent. Just put it all together and we’ve got ourselves a decent team
JJ was a special player. Josh Adams was a special player. They played together, but it was Josh’s team and then JJ’s team. My point is recently we’ve had talented guys, but that doesn’t always end up with wins. The 2014 team was absolutely loaded. This year’s team the last two games has shown they can play upper and mid level MWC teams tight at home and on the road. I’d rather have 4 guys in double figures than 1 guy averaging 23 a game. The emergence has coincided with Marble playing a lot morePoke in New England said:Vt poke said:I think there is a fair amount of talent on this team. Whoever coaches this team just needs to put the pieces of the puzzle together. I think all these players have shown glimpses of talent. Just put it all together and we’ve got ourselves a decent team
I haven't watched the same team as you I guess. Many of the terrible Wyoming basketball teams in my lifetime had special players worth watching — in recent years Brandon Ewing, Leonard Washington, Afam Muojeke, Luke Martinez. This team is at best a collection of role guys who are held back worse by poor coaching. Maldonado is a nice player but he is not special on a Brandon Ewing type level. I have given up high hopes for Hunter Thompson. Foster I think could be a high level talent but he's basically a baby out there. A good coach could scheme these guys to some wins but it will take a full rebuild with a new wave of recruits to bring us back I fear.
Vt poke said:JJ was a special player. Josh Adams was a special player. They played together, but it was Josh’s team and then JJ’s team. My point is recently we’ve had talented guys, but that doesn’t always end up with wins. The 2014 team was absolutely loaded. This year’s team the last two games has shown they can play upper and mid level MWC teams tight at home and on the road. I’d rather have 4 guys in double figures than 1 guy averaging 23 a game. The emergence has coincided with Marble playing a lot morePoke in New England said:Vt poke said:I think there is a fair amount of talent on this team. Whoever coaches this team just needs to put the pieces of the puzzle together. I think all these players have shown glimpses of talent. Just put it all together and we’ve got ourselves a decent team
I haven't watched the same team as you I guess. Many of the terrible Wyoming basketball teams in my lifetime had special players worth watching — in recent years Brandon Ewing, Leonard Washington, Afam Muojeke, Luke Martinez. This team is at best a collection of role guys who are held back worse by poor coaching. Maldonado is a nice player but he is not special on a Brandon Ewing type level. I have given up high hopes for Hunter Thompson. Foster I think could be a high level talent but he's basically a baby out there. A good coach could scheme these guys to some wins but it will take a full rebuild with a new wave of recruits to bring us back I fear.
There is no doubt that the team with Herndon and Dalton was much better than this team. We are a team with a bunch of guards and a stretch 4. Not exactly a recipe for huge success. This team two weeks ago looked to be on the same path at San Joser a few years ago when they had to use guys from their football team to finish the year. In the last two games, our boys have been very competitive and seem to have turned the corner. If you aren’t happy with the effort and desire that was put forth last game, I’m not sure what would make you happy. This team’s best player’s (with the most upside and eligibility are 2 soph and 2 frosh. We keep them, get a good aggressive go to the hole or go to the rack or dish PG and a banger and we could make ouerselves a contender again.Poke in New England said:Vt poke said:JJ was a special player. Josh Adams was a special player. They played together, but it was Josh’s team and then JJ’s team. My point is recently we’ve had talented guys, but that doesn’t always end up with wins. The 2014 team was absolutely loaded. This year’s team the last two games has shown they can play upper and mid level MWC teams tight at home and on the road. I’d rather have 4 guys in double figures than 1 guy averaging 23 a game. The emergence has coincided with Marble playing a lot morePoke in New England said:Vt poke said:I think there is a fair amount of talent on this team. Whoever coaches this team just needs to put the pieces of the puzzle together. I think all these players have shown glimpses of talent. Just put it all together and we’ve got ourselves a decent team
I haven't watched the same team as you I guess. Many of the terrible Wyoming basketball teams in my lifetime had special players worth watching — in recent years Brandon Ewing, Leonard Washington, Afam Muojeke, Luke Martinez. This team is at best a collection of role guys who are held back worse by poor coaching. Maldonado is a nice player but he is not special on a Brandon Ewing type level. I have given up high hopes for Hunter Thompson. Foster I think could be a high level talent but he's basically a baby out there. A good coach could scheme these guys to some wins but it will take a full rebuild with a new wave of recruits to bring us back I fear.
If you want to see an Allen Edwards team with talent, the 17-18 team had several all-conference caliber players and that team was 10-8 in a mediocre MWC. When they don't have the players we get this.
Vt poke said:There is no doubt that the team with Herndon and Dalton was much better than this team. We are a team with a bunch of guards and a stretch 4. Not exactly a recipe for huge success. This team two weeks ago looked to be on the same path at San Joser a few years ago when they had to use guys from their football team to finish the year. In the last two games, our boys have been very competitive and seem to have turned the corner. If you aren’t happy with the effort and desire that was put forth last game, I’m not sure what would make you happy. This team’s best player’s (with the most upside and eligibility are 2 soph and 2 frosh. We keep them, get a good aggressive go to the hole or go to the rack or dish PG and a banger and we could make ouerselves a contender again.Poke in New England said:Vt poke said:JJ was a special player. Josh Adams was a special player. They played together, but it was Josh’s team and then JJ’s team. My point is recently we’ve had talented guys, but that doesn’t always end up with wins. The 2014 team was absolutely loaded. This year’s team the last two games has shown they can play upper and mid level MWC teams tight at home and on the road. I’d rather have 4 guys in double figures than 1 guy averaging 23 a game. The emergence has coincided with Marble playing a lot morePoke in New England said:Vt poke said:I think there is a fair amount of talent on this team. Whoever coaches this team just needs to put the pieces of the puzzle together. I think all these players have shown glimpses of talent. Just put it all together and we’ve got ourselves a decent team
I haven't watched the same team as you I guess. Many of the terrible Wyoming basketball teams in my lifetime had special players worth watching — in recent years Brandon Ewing, Leonard Washington, Afam Muojeke, Luke Martinez. This team is at best a collection of role guys who are held back worse by poor coaching. Maldonado is a nice player but he is not special on a Brandon Ewing type level. I have given up high hopes for Hunter Thompson. Foster I think could be a high level talent but he's basically a baby out there. A good coach could scheme these guys to some wins but it will take a full rebuild with a new wave of recruits to bring us back I fear.
If you want to see an Allen Edwards team with talent, the 17-18 team had several all-conference caliber players and that team was 10-8 in a mediocre MWC. When they don't have the players we get this.
This team has struggled mightily, but I choose to focus on the positive, and there have been kore in the last two games than we’ve seen most of the year. We are going to pick up a couple more wins this year
SDPokeFan said:While Edwards is a horrible coach, it’s not all on him. I guess I don’t see the talent you see. Few if any of these guys would see meaningful minutes in a good team.
Good coaches could absolutly make good use of these players. Are they great players? no. Good players? sure . Are we going to win championships if these are our best players? no. Could we be a middle of the pack team with these players? I think a good coach could do sobladerunnr said:SDPokeFan said:While Edwards is a horrible coach, it’s not all on him. I guess I don’t see the talent you see. Few if any of these guys would see meaningful minutes in a good team.
The title of this post is delusional. It assumes some other D1 school would want any of these players. That's debatable. Then it assumes the new coach wants to build a program around this group. That's highly unlikely.
LanderPoke said:Good coaches could absolutly make good use of these players. Are they great players? no. Good players? sure . Are we going to win championships if these are our best players? no. Could we be a middle of the pack team with these players? I think a good coach could do sobladerunnr said:SDPokeFan said:While Edwards is a horrible coach, it’s not all on him. I guess I don’t see the talent you see. Few if any of these guys would see meaningful minutes in a good team.
The title of this post is delusional. It assumes some other D1 school would want any of these players. That's debatable. Then it assumes the new coach wants to build a program around this group. That's highly unlikely.
HomeOnTheRange said:this rebuild is gonna be painful as heck
our KenPom numbers are among the very very very worst in the nation. And it's been multiple seasons of that at this point
332nd in adjusted offensive efficiency
263rd in effective FG%
233rd in turnover %
353rd in offensive rebounding %
280th in 3-pt FG%
271st in block %
282nd in steal %
309th in opponent's steal %
and these numbers were somehow boosted by the 300th best out-of-conference schedule
the level of incompetence this coaching staff has displayed the past two years is staggering. There are very few useful parts in the program. They've missed on so many guys
That's because AE has no instincts for basketball. Total incompetence. He's effectively burned this program to the ground. Thanks for nothing, AE. Thanks for nothing, Burman, you idiot. Hire a real coach next time with real experience and qualifications.SDPokeFan said:HomeOnTheRange said:this rebuild is gonna be painful as heck
our KenPom numbers are among the very very very worst in the nation. And it's been multiple seasons of that at this point
332nd in adjusted offensive efficiency
263rd in effective FG%
233rd in turnover %
353rd in offensive rebounding %
280th in 3-pt FG%
271st in block %
282nd in steal %
309th in opponent's steal %
and these numbers were somehow boosted by the 300th best out-of-conference schedule
the level of incompetence this coaching staff has displayed the past two years is staggering. There are very few useful parts in the program. They've missed on so many guys
Good post. Interesting and sad stats. They are 280th in 3-pt percentage but keep jacking them at a rate that would lead you to believe there are 12 Steph Currys on the team.
SDPokeFan said:HomeOnTheRange said:this rebuild is gonna be painful as heck
our KenPom numbers are among the very very very worst in the nation. And it's been multiple seasons of that at this point
332nd in adjusted offensive efficiency
263rd in effective FG%
233rd in turnover %
353rd in offensive rebounding %
280th in 3-pt FG%
271st in block %
282nd in steal %
309th in opponent's steal %
and these numbers were somehow boosted by the 300th best out-of-conference schedule
the level of incompetence this coaching staff has displayed the past two years is staggering. There are very few useful parts in the program. They've missed on so many guys
Good post. Interesting and sad stats. They are 280th in 3-pt percentage but keep jacking them at a rate that would lead you to believe there are 12 Steph Currys on the team.
bladerunnr said:SDPokeFan said:HomeOnTheRange said:this rebuild is gonna be painful as heck
our KenPom numbers are among the very very very worst in the nation. And it's been multiple seasons of that at this point
332nd in adjusted offensive efficiency
263rd in effective FG%
233rd in turnover %
353rd in offensive rebounding %
280th in 3-pt FG%
271st in block %
282nd in steal %
309th in opponent's steal %
and these numbers were somehow boosted by the 300th best out-of-conference schedule
the level of incompetence this coaching staff has displayed the past two years is staggering. There are very few useful parts in the program. They've missed on so many guys
Good post. Interesting and sad stats. They are 280th in 3-pt percentage but keep jacking them at a rate that would lead you to believe there are 12 Steph Currys on the team.
What should they do? Tell me about the many post up players on the team. They shoot threes because that's the only open looks they can get. Whenever they go inside, they're eating leather. A team with no size and no bulk has very few offensive options.