If the rumors are true

[PotatoCreekPete]

If the rumors are true, it looks like 5 guys will not be back next season with the men's bb team: Haldorson, Vernon, Granberry, Seller's and Sobey.

Since Wyoming signed 3 guys in the early signing period then that leaves 2 open scholarships for next season.

Frankly speaking, they have Jones and Lieberman coming in and they have McManaman coming off the redshirt so with Washington, Grabau and Adams coming back I feel that we are in pretty decent shape as far as the point guard and off guard positions are concerned. I am thinking that we need at least one bigs especially with Nance's injury and not knowing when he will return. If I were Coach Shyatt I would go after a JC big with one of those scholarships like there is no tomorrow. Wyoming has to get a big rebounder in now that their only reliable rebounder is out with an injury. The second scholarship I feel that we need another big or I would be ok with an outside shooter to replace Sobey....but he would have to be a really good shooter and NOT another project.

Wyoming just can't afford to have scholarships wasting away on the bench year after year and then having them leave before they ever become a contributor. Just my two cents

 

[MrTitleist]

I don't follow basketball as close as some, but why wouldn't Sellers and Sobey be back?

 

[Wyolie Coyote]

I don't follow basketball as close as some, but why wouldn't Sellers and Sobey be back?

Sobey is a senior. Sellers is supposed to graduate and I would guess transfer somewhere to play.

 

[JimmyDimes]

If the rumors are true, it looks like 5 guys will not be back next season off the men's bb team, Haldorson, Vernon, Granberry, Sellers and Sobey.

Since Wyoming signed 3 guys in the early signing period then that leaves 2 open scholarships for next season.

Frankly speaking, they have Jones and Lieberman coming in and they have McManaman coming off the redshirt so with Washington, Grabau and Adams coming back I feel that we are in pretty decent shape as far as the point guard and off guard positions are concerned. I am thinking that we need at least one bigs especially with Nance's injury and not knowing when he will return. If I were Coach Shyatt I would go after a JC big with one of those scholarships like there is no tomorrow. Wyoming has to get a big rebounder in now that their only reliable rebounder is out with an injury. The second scholarship I feel that we need another big or I would be ok with an outside shooter to replace Sobey....but he would have to be a really good shooter and NOT another project.

Wyoming just can't afford to have scholarships wasting away on the bench year after year and then having them leave before they ever become a contributor. Just my two cents

Only two are wasting away...Seller's and Haldorson. And if the rumors you pointed out are true, then is it a bad thing they are leaving?

Go Pokes!!

 

[stymeman]

get players that want to play here!!!!!!!

 

[BeaverPoke]

Sobey leaving? Duh. Senior.
Granberry leaving? Duh. Senior.

Keonta Vernon leaving? Thank god! Go enjoy Northern Arizona bud, maybe people will want to hear your constant twitter bitching there.
Sellers leaving? Good! Waste of a scholarship since day 1! The kid averaged like 2ppg at Western Wyoming Community College then Shyatt gave him a scholly just because he was big.
Haldorson leaving? Oh no, what will happen to our depth, and our interior rebounding! Oh wait....those don't exist. Waste of a scholly if you are on scholly and are not even playing.

 

[fromolwyoming]

Well, Granberry, Sobey, and Sellers would be graduating anyways. Granberry came here for his last season. Sobey, not sure if he is a redshirt senior, but he is a senior regardless and is one of the few to have stepped up with Nance out. Sellers is big, and unfortunetly not much else.

Haldorson may be a good shooter, but he's a toothpick and has done squat for playing time. Vernon, I would have loved to see what he could do, but if he's leaving before ever playing, that's his own thing.

 

[PotatoCreekPete]

If the rumors are true, it looks like 5 guys will not be back next season off the men's bb team, Haldorson, Vernon, Granberry, Sellers and Sobey.

Since Wyoming signed 3 guys in the early signing period then that leaves 2 open scholarships for next season.

Frankly speaking, they have Jones and Lieberman coming in and they have McManaman coming off the redshirt so with Washington, Grabau and Adams coming back I feel that we are in pretty decent shape as far as the point guard and off guard positions are concerned. I am thinking that we need at least one bigs especially with Nance's injury and not knowing when he will return. If I were Coach Shyatt I would go after a JC big with one of those scholarships like there is no tomorrow. Wyoming has to get a big rebounder in now that their only reliable rebounder is out with an injury. The second scholarship I feel that we need another big or I would be ok with an outside shooter to replace Sobey....but he would have to be a really good shooter and NOT another project.

Wyoming just can't afford to have scholarships wasting away on the bench year after year and then having them leave before they ever become a contributor. Just my two cents

Only two are wasting away...Seller's and Haldorson. And if the rumors you pointed out are true, then is it a bad thing they are leaving?

Go Pokes!!

No, it is not a bad thing that Seller's and Haldorson are leaving. My point was that these guys were scholarship players that were occupying semi-permament spots on the bench. With only 13 scholarships available, it is tough to waste 2 scholarships to players that never contribute.

 

[JimmyDimes]

If the rumors are true, it looks like 5 guys will not be back next season off the men's bb team, Haldorson, Vernon, Granberry, Sellers and Sobey.

Since Wyoming signed 3 guys in the early signing period then that leaves 2 open scholarships for next season.

Frankly speaking, they have Jones and Lieberman coming in and they have McManaman coming off the redshirt so with Washington, Grabau and Adams coming back I feel that we are in pretty decent shape as far as the point guard and off guard positions are concerned. I am thinking that we need at least one bigs especially with Nance's injury and not knowing when he will return. If I were Coach Shyatt I would go after a JC big with one of those scholarships like there is no tomorrow. Wyoming has to get a big rebounder in now that their only reliable rebounder is out with an injury. The second scholarship I feel that we need another big or I would be ok with an outside shooter to replace Sobey....but he would have to be a really good shooter and NOT another project.

Wyoming just can't afford to have scholarships wasting away on the bench year after year and then having them leave before they ever become a contributor. Just my two cents

Only two are wasting away...Seller's and Haldorson. And if the rumors you pointed out are true, then is it a bad thing they are leaving?

Go Pokes!!

No, it is not a bad thing that Seller's and Haldorson are leaving. My point was that these guys were scholarship players that were occupying semi-permament spots on the bench. With only 13 scholarships available, it is tough to waste 2 scholarships to players that never contribute.

Recruiting is an inexact science. You never know who is going to pan out and who won't. If the rumors are true, then at least they didn't ride pine for 4 years each.

 

[TSpoke]

If the rumors are true, it looks like 5 guys will not be back next season with the men's bb team: Haldorson, Vernon, Granberry, Seller's and Sobey.

Since Wyoming signed 3 guys in the early signing period then that leaves 2 open scholarships for next season.

Frankly speaking, they have Jones and Lieberman coming in and they have McManaman coming off the redshirt so with Washington, Grabau and Adams coming back I feel that we are in pretty decent shape as far as the point guard and off guard positions are concerned. I am thinking that we need at least one bigs especially with Nance's injury and not knowing when he will return. If I were Coach Shyatt I would go after a JC big with one of those scholarships like there is no tomorrow. Wyoming has to get a big rebounder in now that their only reliable rebounder is out with an injury. The second scholarship I feel that we need another big or I would be ok with an outside shooter to replace Sobey....but he would have to be a really good shooter and NOT another project.

Wyoming just can't afford to have scholarships wasting away on the bench year after year and then having them leave before they ever become a contributor. Just my two cents

First off. I never put too much faith into rumors but I we do have one or two more scholarships to give this year I'm sure the coachs will be looking for at least one big and I'm sure they will try to get one that can contribute right away. The problem is finding one. Especially this late in the game. Have anyone in particular in maind Potato?

 

[Bryoming]

If the rumors are true, it looks like 5 guys will not be back next season with the men's bb team: Haldorson, Vernon, Granberry, Seller's and Sobey.

Since Wyoming signed 3 guys in the early signing period then that leaves 2 open scholarships for next season.

Frankly speaking, they have Jones and Lieberman coming in and they have McManaman coming off the redshirt so with Washington, Grabau and Adams coming back I feel that we are in pretty decent shape as far as the point guard and off guard positions are concerned. I am thinking that we need at least one bigs especially with Nance's injury and not knowing when he will return. If I were Coach Shyatt I would go after a JC big with one of those scholarships like there is no tomorrow. Wyoming has to get a big rebounder in now that their only reliable rebounder is out with an injury. The second scholarship I feel that we need another big or I would be ok with an outside shooter to replace Sobey....but he would have to be a really good shooter and NOT another project.

Wyoming just can't afford to have scholarships wasting away on the bench year after year and then having them leave before they ever become a contributor. Just my two cents

Or even 2 JUCO bigs. Our post depth is nonexistant. Next year at the post we'll have Cooke, Herndon (don't know what he can do), Barnes (incoming freshman, may redshirt), Nance (maybe. I feel like he'll have to redshirt), and that's it. If Nance isn't ready we have a grand total of ONE post player with any game experience. We badly need AT LEAST one JUCO forward/center who is 6'8" or taller that can rebound and play defense. Scoring is optional.

If this situation comes to pass, I would personally like to see one 6'8"+ F/C and one 6'5"+ G/F. The F/C should come from the JUCO ranks. The G/F can come from either high school or junior college, but he needs to be ready to contribute right away.

 

[JimmyDimes]

If the rumors are true, it looks like 5 guys will not be back next season with the men's bb team: Haldorson, Vernon, Granberry, Seller's and Sobey.

Since Wyoming signed 3 guys in the early signing period then that leaves 2 open scholarships for next season.

Frankly speaking, they have Jones and Lieberman coming in and they have McManaman coming off the redshirt so with Washington, Grabau and Adams coming back I feel that we are in pretty decent shape as far as the point guard and off guard positions are concerned. I am thinking that we need at least one bigs especially with Nance's injury and not knowing when he will return. If I were Coach Shyatt I would go after a JC big with one of those scholarships like there is no tomorrow. Wyoming has to get a big rebounder in now that their only reliable rebounder is out with an injury. The second scholarship I feel that we need another big or I would be ok with an outside shooter to replace Sobey....but he would have to be a really good shooter and NOT another project.

Wyoming just can't afford to have scholarships wasting away on the bench year after year and then having them leave before they ever become a contributor. Just my two cents

Or even 2 JUCO bigs. Our post depth is nonexistant. Next year at the post we'll have Cooke, Herndon (don't know what he can do), Barnes (incoming freshman, may redshirt), Nance (maybe. I feel like he'll have to redshirt), and that's it. If Nance isn't ready we have a grand total of ONE post player with any game experience. We badly need AT LEAST one JUCO forward/center who is 6'8" or taller that can rebound and play defense. Scoring is optional.

If this situation comes to pass, I would personally like to see one 6'8"+ F/C and one 6'5"+ G/F. The F/C should come from the JUCO ranks. The G/F can come from either high school or junior college, but he needs to be ready to contribute right away.

Larry doesn't seem to like the JUCO route, but he might need to take a look in this instance. With Vernon leaving, we have no open scholarships available. However, if Seller/Haldorson leave, then we have some wiggle room. Maybe there is a 5th year transfer out there....if not, it wouldn't hurt to look JUCO.

ps. In regards to Nance, at least the ACL is the most common and easiest knee surgery to recover from. I hope he works his ass off and is back to his old self next year.

 

[MrTitleist]

Okay.. again, I don't follow basketball closely, but if bigs are such a problem for Wyoming, how did the coaching staff let this guy slip away?
http://www.gogriz.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/andy_martin_800181.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Wyoming boy, tall, starting for a team who has made a few trips to the NCAAs the last few years..

 

[Bryoming]

Okay.. again, I don't follow basketball closely, but if bigs are such a problem for Wyoming, how did the coaching staff let this guy slip away?
http://www.gogriz.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/andy_martin_800181.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Wyoming boy, tall, starting for a team who has made a few trips to the NCAAs the last few years..

I haven't seen him play, but if I had to guess it would be that the staff didn't feel like his playing style matched what they were trying to do. One thing I've noticed about this staff is that they don't offer just anyone. They're looking for a very specific type of player.

 

[fromolwyoming]

Okay.. again, I don't follow basketball closely, but if bigs are such a problem for Wyoming, how did the coaching staff let this guy slip away?
http://www.gogriz.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/andy_martin_800181.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Wyoming boy, tall, starting for a team who has made a few trips to the NCAAs the last few years..

I haven't seen him play, but if I had to guess it would be that the staff didn't feel like his playing style matched what they were trying to do. One thing I've noticed about this staff is that they don't offer just anyone. They're looking for a very specific type of player.

Yep. Defense first, team player 2nd. Everything else an after thought really.

 

[kdwrightuwyo]

Haldorson, Sellers, and Vernon leaving may or may not be a bad thing. Many of you will bitch and complain if they do. Many will bitch and complain if they don't. Then there will be a huge argument over attrition where many will butch and moan about Papa Shy.

 

[MrTitleist]

Seems to me that if you've got a Wyoming boy that can play D1 basketball (which is rare) you should probably snatch him up. Esp a big, which is rare to find. Montana had a guard from Casper Natrona who played at Casper College then transferred UM recently as well.. it'd be nice to keep these guys in-state.

 

[BackHarlowRoad]

Okay.. again, I don't follow basketball closely, but if bigs are such a problem for Wyoming, how did the coaching staff let this guy slip away?
http://www.gogriz.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/andy_martin_800181.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Wyoming boy, tall, starting for a team who has made a few trips to the NCAAs the last few years..

A 7-foot, 220 lb kid who, in Wyoming, averaged just 9 points and 8 rebounds? How does that happen?

I think all 7-footers are worth looking into for sure, especially home grown ones...but those stats, or lack thereof, are alarming.

 

[Bryoming]

Okay.. again, I don't follow basketball closely, but if bigs are such a problem for Wyoming, how did the coaching staff let this guy slip away?
http://www.gogriz.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/andy_martin_800181.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Wyoming boy, tall, starting for a team who has made a few trips to the NCAAs the last few years..

A 7-foot, 220 lb kid who, in Wyoming, averaged just 9 points and 8 rebounds? How does that happen?

I think all 7-footers are worth looking into for sure, especially home grown ones...but those stats, or lack thereof, are alarming.

220 is about 50 pounds light for a 7-footer, too. Kid needs to hit the weight room.

 

[kansasCowboy]

Cooke was JUCO. I think depending on who all leaves we may see a few JUCO guys coming in just to get some guys who can play right away that aren't green. We talk up frosh, but most of them don't pan out their first year. It's all speculation anyway, we still have atleast three more games to go. I'm more focused on that at the time being.

Go Pokes!