If or when CSU finishes their new stadium,

[J-Rod]

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Latest renderings for CSU's stadium....

 

[wyocowboy2014]

I think a restaurant on the east side of the stadium on the ground level would be cool. It could be open year around and have gameday access. It could be a great place to show wyoming games and have a sit down restaurant on campus.

 

[Bryoming]

I think a restaurant on the east side of the stadium on the ground level would be cool. It could be open year around and have gameday access. It could be a great place to show wyoming games and have a sit down restaurant on campus.

Solid idea!

 

[wyocowboy2014]

It'd be cool to build it in the corner of the stadium so it overlooks the field.

 

[WestWYOPoke]

It'd be cool to build it in the corner of the stadium so it overlooks the field.

Something similar to Camp Randall stadium in Madison. They have an apparel store (ala Brown & Gold) in the SE corner of the stadium with a patio out to field level. The War could have a restaurant in the SE or SW corner that's open year round and has a back patio or deck with seating to watch the game and have your eat and drink...I'm sure that would never be busy.

 

[Adv8RU12]

There are three things that would vastly improve the War and many other stadiums: stadium seats, stadium seats, stadium seats. My old ass and back would welcome it.

If you are a season ticket holder, you can pay a little extra and they set up a stadium seat for you each game.

Those ARE NOT, by definition, stadium seats. They DO NOT have arm rests. The DO NOT prevent a 275# person sitting next to you from hanging half way on your lap. They are better than nothing, but not much.

 

[BackHarlowRoad]

Yea, thats what we need, more empty seats.

And there lies the reason UW will always be who they have always been. Mediocre.

I mean, why build something great, why upgrade anything, why make the fan experience superior, why put a seat premium & chairbacks in place, why move sides of the field, why renovate anything? We are who we are, and that is just god damned good enough!

This ^^

It's not about being mediocre, it's about being smart with your priorities. There are dozens of ideas listed above that we could do to improve the fan experience BEFORE we worry about adding more seats. Come up with ways to fill 'em first, THEN build 'em.

I'm about tired of hearing people accusing the other of "settling for mediocrity". Most overused phrase on this board. Nobody here is settling. The ones who are settling wouldn't be having this discussion.

 

[joshvanklomp]

Come up with ways to fill 'em first, THEN build 'em.

Like winning? :lol:

 

[Wyo2dal]

Yea, thats what we need, more empty seats.

And there lies the reason UW will always be who they have always been. Mediocre.

I mean, why build something great, why upgrade anything, why make the fan experience superior, why put a seat premium & chairbacks in place, why move sides of the field, why renovate anything? We are who we are, and that is just god damned good enough!

This ^^

It's not about being mediocre, it's about being smart with your priorities. There are dozens of ideas listed above that we could do to improve the fan experience BEFORE we worry about adding more seats. Come up with ways to fill 'em first, THEN build 'em.

I'm about tired of hearing people accusing the other of "settling for mediocrity". Most overused phrase on this board. Nobody here is settling. The ones who are settling wouldn't be having this discussion.

That just isn't true in any way shape or form were you against the AA renovations as well?

 

[BackHarlowRoad]

Come up with ways to fill 'em first, THEN build 'em.

Like winning? :lol:

Absolutely

 

[BackHarlowRoad]

Yea, thats what we need, more empty seats.

And there lies the reason UW will always be who they have always been. Mediocre.

I mean, why build something great, why upgrade anything, why make the fan experience superior, why put a seat premium & chairbacks in place, why move sides of the field, why renovate anything? We are who we are, and that is just god damned good enough!

This ^^

It's not about being mediocre, it's about being smart with your priorities. There are dozens of ideas listed above that we could do to improve the fan experience BEFORE we worry about adding more seats. Come up with ways to fill 'em first, THEN build 'em.

I'm about tired of hearing people accusing the other of "settling for mediocrity". Most overused phrase on this board. Nobody here is settling. The ones who are settling wouldn't be having this discussion.

That just isn't true in any way shape or form were you against the AA renovations as well?

What's not true? That "mediocrity" is hurled all too often here? Anytime someone disagrees with someone else's view, they say the other party is settling for mediocrity. It's old hat, man. Oooold hat.

I'm for any and all renovations. Pretty much everything mentioned besides adding more seats. Why spend money to add an extra room to your house and fill it with nothing when you could use the same money to make the rest of your house more badass?

Supply and demand. If you aren't selling a certain product, you don't stock more of it! You wait 'til your supply runs low first....in this case...seats!

 

[Wyo2dal]

Yea, thats what we need, more empty seats.

And there lies the reason UW will always be who they have always been. Mediocre.

I mean, why build something great, why upgrade anything, why make the fan experience superior, why put a seat premium & chairbacks in place, why move sides of the field, why renovate anything? We are who we are, and that is just god damned good enough!

This ^^

It's not about being mediocre, it's about being smart with your priorities. There are dozens of ideas listed above that we could do to improve the fan experience BEFORE we worry about adding more seats. Come up with ways to fill 'em first, THEN build 'em.

I'm about tired of hearing people accusing the other of "settling for mediocrity". Most overused phrase on this board. Nobody here is settling. The ones who are settling wouldn't be having this discussion.

That just isn't true in any way shape or form were you against the AA renovations as well?

What's not true? That "mediocrity" is hurled all too often here? Anytime someone disagrees with someone else's view, they say the other party is settling for mediocrity. It's old hat, man. Oooold hat.

I'm for any and all renovations. Pretty much everything mentioned besides adding more seats. Why spend money to add an extra room to your house and fill it with nothing when you could use the same money to make the rest of your house more badass?

Supply and demand. If you aren't selling a certain product, you don't stock more of it! You wait 'til your supply runs low first....in this case...seats!

There is no such thing as supply and demand in athletics, The supply and demand in athletics is all about a better gaming atmosphere. The atmosphere i experience at the ASU stadium is probably 10 times the last experience I had at the War.

Adding more seats with better options and locations isn't a bad thing it just means the current seating needs to be looked at and possible updated so the atmosphere is enjoyable.

As for mediocrity comment you can't really deny it. When is the last time an AD at the UW brought forth an idea for a brand new stadium? Right it will never happen because our AD has no vision and they're satisfied with that.

This AA renovation is LONG over due this shit should have been done in the late 90's and the only reason it is being done now is we had a president for a few months that actually forcefully got the ball rolling.

 

[ragtimejoe1]

There is no such thing as supply and demand in athletics, The supply and demand in athletics is all about a better gaming atmosphere.

I'm not opposed to renovations or anything. Heck, I wouldn't mind a dome (I know not popular) if we had the money.

However, I disagree a little here. Our limitation is not facilities or game day experience. There are several factors but lack of winning is the main factor. Heck, students get in FREE and we still don't draw huge student crowds all the time. Programs in the P5 charge their students for tickets and there are often wait lines.

We have a terrible case of apathy at WYO and it directly stems from losing not game day experience. The only thing that will curb our attendance problem is winning.

Now, I realize University dollars are often targeted, so might as well use them for the upgrades. However, you could put Jerry's World in Laramie and you wouldn't see a sustained uptick in attendance.

 

[McPeachy]

It's not about being mediocre, it's about being smart with your priorities. There are dozens of ideas listed above that we could do to improve the fan experience BEFORE we worry about adding more seats. Come up with ways to fill 'em first, THEN build 'em.

I'm about tired of hearing people accusing the other of "settling for mediocrity". Most overused phrase on this board. Nobody here is settling. The ones who are settling wouldn't be having this discussion.

It is mostly about being mediocre (which includes being average on the field). Sorry you don't like the word, but it fits. Maybe we should substitute the word for a while on the board: Indifferent? Uninspired? Pedestrian? Lackluster? Forgettable? Amateurish? Ordinary? Average? You pick, I am sure we can all agree on one (or maybe not).

Being smart with priorities. The priority should always be football at Wyoming. The numbers don't lie. Putting chair backs in - with a similar AA seat premium - in the sections I mentioned would probably reduce the War by another 3 - 4K seats. So then we are down to what, a 25,000 capacity?

So we can't build a state of the art kick ass 6 - 8K seat south end enclosure with patio / bar / etc., because it would be adding more seats? Not really...it would be getting it back to where it was (and not really where it should be). But more importantly, it would be exciting, innovative, fresh, functional, revenue boosting, etc.

The reduced seating with the thought process that it would create a higher ticket price was a Gary Barta passion...and one I never agreed with. It didn't work. Time to go another direction.

 

[BackHarlowRoad]

There is no such thing as supply and demand in athletics, The supply and demand in athletics is all about a better gaming atmosphere. The atmosphere i experience at the ASU stadium is probably 10 times the last experience I had at the War.

Adding more seats with better options and locations isn't a bad thing it just means the current seating needs to be looked at and possible updated so the atmosphere is enjoyable.

There's supply and demand in everything that involves money. Upgrade the current seating, rearrange current seating, throw in an awesome patio and bar. That's perfect, I love that idea, I really do.

But just throwing in 8,000 new seats so we can boast about our capacity when we regularly have 15,000 empty ones makes zero sense.

 

[HR_Poke]

It's not about being mediocre, it's about being smart with your priorities. There are dozens of ideas listed above that we could do to improve the fan experience BEFORE we worry about adding more seats. Come up with ways to fill 'em first, THEN build 'em.

I'm about tired of hearing people accusing the other of "settling for mediocrity". Most overused phrase on this board. Nobody here is settling. The ones who are settling wouldn't be having this discussion.

It is mostly about being mediocre (which includes being average on the field). Sorry you don't like the word, but it fits. Maybe we should substitute the word for a while on the board: Indifferent? Uninspired? Pedestrian? Lackluster? Forgettable? Amateurish? Ordinary? Average? You pick, I am sure we can all agree on one (or maybe not).

Being smart with priorities. The priority should always be football at Wyoming. The numbers don't lie. Putting chair backs in - with a similar AA seat premium - in the sections I mentioned would probably reduce the War by another 3 - 4K seats. So then we are down to what, a 25,000 capacity?

So we can't build a state of the art kick ass 6 - 8K seat south end enclosure with patio / bar / etc., because it would be adding more seats? Not really...it would be getting it back to where it was (and not really where it should be). But more importantly, it would be exciting, innovative, fresh, functional, revenue boosting, etc.

The reduced seating with the thought process that it would create a higher ticket price was a Gary Barta passion...and one I never agreed with. It didn't work. Time to go another direction.

If the increase to the south endzone was in conjunction with a reduction on the west side it would make sense. But if it's a stand alone project it doesn't make sense when other areas need to be addressed first. The west side badly needs to be renovated along with the press box. With the popularity of the wildcatter suites we should be putting in more suites. I would be opposed to just adding another 6-8k seats as I think most of them would go unused until the team gets better and the overall apathy of the program subsides. You can't have a build it and they will come mentality when the program is on a downward trend in terms of product on the field. If Bohl rights the ship and we are on an upward trend then expansion to meet future needs makes sense.

 

[BackHarlowRoad]

If the increase to the south endzone was in conjunction with a reduction on the west side it would make sense. But if it's a stand alone project it doesn't make sense when other areas need to be addressed first. The west side badly needs to be renovated along with the press box. With the popularity of the wildcatter suites we should be putting in more suites. I would be opposed to just adding another 6-8k seats as I think most of them would go unused until the team gets better and the overall apathy of the program subsides. You can't have a build it and they will come mentality when the program is on a downward trend in terms of product on the field. If Bohl rights the ship and we are on an upward trend then expansion to meet future needs makes sense.

+1, this is all I'm saying. Reason is not synonymous with apathy.

Common sense welcomes you, HR_Poke.

 

[HR_Poke]

If the increase to the south endzone was in conjunction with a reduction on the west side it would make sense. But if it's a stand alone project it doesn't make sense when other areas need to be addressed first. The west side badly needs to be renovated along with the press box. With the popularity of the wildcatter suites we should be putting in more suites. I would be opposed to just adding another 6-8k seats as I think most of them would go unused until the team gets better and the overall apathy of the program subsides. You can't have a build it and they will come mentality when the program is on a downward trend in terms of product on the field. If Bohl rights the ship and we are on an upward trend then expansion to meet future needs makes sense.

+1, this is all I'm saying. Reason is not synonymous with apathy.

Common sense welcomes you, HR_Poke.

I understand where peachy is coming from. Most of our facilities stuff has been need based or reactionary. There really hasn't been a lot of forethought or planning for the future. Corbett should have been bulldozed and rebuilt in the 90's but the AD and everyone else had the idea that if the pool holds water they don't need anything new. Same with the press box and the seating in the War. I think the AD needs a long term plan of what they want to do with the War and how they want it to look and function. I think a bar/restaurant in the south endzone with seating would be a great addition, but its not that simple. You are now fighting with local businesses because you brought in competition. You are fighting with the state alcohol commission and the local police that don't want to supervise that sort of thing more than they have to now. Laramie is a tough town to get anything done. Too many people bytch and complain when changes are made and they get their way too often.