If not Bohl, them who?

[kansasCowboy]

You've touched on a lot of topics that concern me with any future coaching hires. Any people in the "get rid of Bohl now" camp, aren't aware of the reality of college football. If we were to get rid of him now, as respected as he is in the coaching community, we wouldn't get a coach worth a damn to even sniff the job unless we through a TON of $$$ at them.

Your questions refers to 2019, so you are more in the realm of reasonability. I am certainly hoping that by 2019 we are all singing CB's praises and begging athletic director Joe Glenn to extend his contract through 2030. BUT for the sake of argument, if things don't work out, my guess is our best bet will be with an up and comer in the ranks. Someone that today is just a position coach or new coordinator, but by 2018-19 will be a HC with 1-2 years of big success behind them. That or a head coach that has had moderate success at the big time but the success wan't quite big enough, quite fast enough...ala a Bo Pelini type. Because I highly doubt that if Bohl doesn't work, our new AD will not be stupid enough to go back to the FCS level for the next hire.

In summary, go Craig Bohl, make this all a moot point.

Good post....Bohl needs more than 16 games and 1 1/2 recruiting classes. People are too quick to judge and too quick to make hasty decisions now days. Let's stay the course and see what Bohl can do. I much prefer being a sunshine pumper for Bohl than to be a critical little Nancy at this point in his tenure.

And Joe Glenn as AD would be awesome.

Sunshine Pumper is old and outdated... It's "Fanboy" now...

Trust me, I know.

 

[BringBackStutzriem]

If Bohl doesn't develop a consistent winner by 2019 it's time to think seriously about considering a different model for the athletics department. We've been told ad nauseum that two things will never happen: Wyoming will never spend Boise State type money on football and Wyoming will never drop down to FCS.

Ok. Fine. But you can't keep throwing good money after bad forever. If Bohl doesn't develop a winner by 2019 or 2020 we should consider running the football program on about half what we do now - say around $3.5 million/year. This would be about what schools like Appalachian State spend. If we get lucky every once in a while, great. But then let's plus up the basketball budget to make that program one of the best in the west. No reason we couldn't develop a Gonzaga type program here given the resources.

This is all going to be moot, anyway. Conferences will realign by then and Wyoming football will no longer even technically be playing for the same trophy as the P5 schools. Wyoming will have some interesting choices to make when that happens.

This, over and over again. Wyoming's problem is fundamental, inherent, and potentially insurmountable...it's that we're an irrelevant program playing in an irrelevant conference, both of which will grow progressively more and more irrelevant when CSU's new stadium (and the potential TV revenue of an exploding Front Range market) gets them a ticket into the Big 12, Boise State bolts, and the MWC is left with the remnants of the WAC.

Glenn may have been our final shot, and he came very close. The TCU game in 2005 was probably the big one, but losing to New Mexico in '07 (and the ensuing cascades that resulted) probably put the nail in the coffin for Wyoming's hopes of being a regional contender.

Glenn may have been the final shot?
I'm not advocating DC, but we have gone to two bowls since... Going 1-1.

What would peoples take on here have been had Smith lead WYO down and got us the go ahead victory to start off DC's last year in Nebraska? I think that team, all though not so good on D would have had significant momentum to win some of the shootout losses they did later in the year.
It would have been DC's defining moment of going into "One of the Bigs House" and getting a W. Probably bigger than beating 9-4 Virginia at home, big. Or even winning at Ole Miss (4-7) or Tennessee (5-7) big.

We talk of defining moments like the "TCU game" clear back in 05, and raise hypotheticals as to how it may have gotten us where we are today. But I think we've had many other defining moment games since...

And we will again.

Ah-ah. Going to bowls in the 2000's is, in general, not an indication of success. There have been a number of teams with losing records that have played in bowls. There are too many of them. No one would make the argument that Christensen's teams were better than the 1996 or 1998 teams that didn't get bowl bids - it's just that there were so many more bids available. Tiller's 1996 team, by midseason form, would've beaten Christensen's 2011 team by 3-4 touchdowns, possibly more.

Neither of Christensen's teams would have played in a bowl game if not for the I-AA opponents (and, in the case of his 2011 team, the abysmal 2/3 of the MWC in addition to the two I-AA teams). Yes, Glenn's one bowl appearance came because Wyoming beat App. State in 2004. The difference? Wyoming won that season 53-7, while Christensen beat Weber State by 7 in '09 and then probably should have fallen to them in 2011 (it took a fourth-and-game conversion to win it). Also, you could make the argument that Glenn would have been in a bowl in 2006 if he had a I-AA opponent on his schedule instead of Boise State, Syracuse, and Virginia. And he should have still beaten two of those three.

In any case, no one is going to argue that the New Mexico Bowl carries any prestige. The 2009 rendition was a GREAT game and one of the most exciting in recent Wyoming history, but on a national scale, Wyoming and Fresno State simply don't garner any attention when they match up. It held a little bit of interest because it was the first bowl game of the season, but that's about it. Maybe it's just the luck of the draw, but beating UCLA simply meant something more. And, as I have said over and over, the 2011 team had no business appearing in a bowl game and was consequentially destroyed by a pretty good, but not good, Temple team.

The Nebraska game is interesting to speculate, but it's also indicative of DC's inability to manage personnel or generally maintain control of his team. He could get his team to really get up and bring their A-game/exceed expectations for 1-2 opponents a season...but he'd turn around and lose by 21 to Texas State several weeks later. Glenn's momentum deflations came because of a lot of bizarre bad luck (in '05-07 especially), while Christensen's teams simply weren't complete squads and were just overmatched for most of the time.

 

[jbeiermann]

Ted Gilmore

 

[Coeur d' Alene]

Ken Niumatalolo from Navy

 

[laxwyo]

Steve Spurrier is available

 

[Wyo2dal]

Steve Spurrier is available

After his comments about why he resigned pretty sure that will happen when pigs fly lol.

 

[ragtimejoe1]

Steve Spurrier is available

After his comments about why he resigned pretty sure that will happen when pigs fly lol.

Honestly, I didn't pay much attention to it. What did he say? (just curiosity--I have no delusion that he would come here).

 

[Wyo2dal]

Steve Spurrier is available

After his comments about why he resigned pretty sure that will happen when pigs fly lol.

Honestly, I didn't pay much attention to it. What did he say? (just curiosity--I have no delusion that he would come here).

My answer has always been the same: If it starts going south, starts going bad, then I need to get out. ... It's time for me to get out of the way and give somebody else a go at it.