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If Dalton plays one more minute than Marshall this year
- Thread starter LanderPoke
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bladerunnr
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I'd like to see Dalton on the cross country team. Seriously though, Kenyan marathon runners think Dalton is way skinny.
Coeur d' Alene
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2 of the towns that border the town I live in? Hayden and Dalton.
It's not Marshall or Dalton. It's noughton or Dalton and maybe James/mcM or Dalton.
Marshall is about trey/Lieberman or Marshall
It's not Marshall or Dalton. It's noughton or Dalton and maybe James/mcM or Dalton.
Marshall is about trey/Lieberman or Marshall
BackHarlowRoad
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Coeur d' Alene said:
:wtf:
BackHarlowRoad
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Dalton actually has more rebounds per 40 minutes than anyone on the team by at least 2 boards, is the only player other than Herndon to shoot over 50% from the field, and is the second best free throw shooter on the team.
He does have the second highest turnover rate, Adams understandably being #1.
So is he too skinny and does he turn the ball over too much? Hell yeah he is/does.
But he can shoot and he can rebound.
As far as Marshall goes, I still don't know. Still don't think I've seen enough of him to find his strengths and weaknesses. Would like to see him play more just so I can either justify these gripes or put them to bed, can't hurt to try him out.
He does have the second highest turnover rate, Adams understandably being #1.
So is he too skinny and does he turn the ball over too much? Hell yeah he is/does.
But he can shoot and he can rebound.
As far as Marshall goes, I still don't know. Still don't think I've seen enough of him to find his strengths and weaknesses. Would like to see him play more just so I can either justify these gripes or put them to bed, can't hurt to try him out.
Coeur d' Alene
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I've been to the end of Harlow. That must not be what back Harlow means.BackHarlowRoad said:
Do you not understand that it's not Marshall or Dalton? The competition for minutes for Marshall is Washington and Lieberman. All I meant is quit comparing Dalton to Marshall. They don't keep each other off the floor
calpoke25
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BackHarlowRoad said:
Did you see how badly Dalton got beat up inside by Southern? Now imagine what MW teams will do to him. We aren't a good rebounding team as it is and unfortunately you can't get stats on how many offensive rebounds a player is giving up to their man, or how many 2nd chance points a player gives up. Him getting more rebounds per 40 minutes probably has more to to with the teams even worse rebounding ability with him on the floor, which in turn gives him more opportunities to EVENTUALLY get a rebound. If the other team gets 3 shots at the basket, he is going to be more likely to get a rebound than a one and done trip for the opponent, but that is hardly a good outcome for us. I don't know enough about advanced metrics but I'm sure someone else probably can look deeper into the data than just "more rebounds per 40 minutes."
He is currently shooting under 50% from the field and 25% from 3 so not sure where you are getting your stats from.
You are correct that we haven't seen enough of Marshall to form a complete opinion on him, but from what I have seen, I see a player much more ready to contribute at a MW level. He at least looks the part physically and athletically.
BackHarlowRoad
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calpoke25 said:
My stats came from the ones posted on Wyoming's website. I didn't mention 3 point percentage anywhere in my post.
And yes, he got pushed around a lot.
Just like Barnes, Herndon, and anyone else on our squad not named Naughton.
BackHarlowRoad
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Nope. I agree that Dalton doesn't look MWC ready, and maybe that's kind of what Shyatt had in mind. Let him develop and get time early in the season because he knew he wouldn't get it later on when conference games started.
NowherePoke
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BackHarlowRoad said:
Not that anyone cares, but the reason for the stat discrepancy is the Bristol game. Due to Bristol's program status (NAIA or whatever), the stats compiled against them do not officially count although the game does count on our record (don't ask me why, that's just the rule). The problem is that most websites (ESPN, etc.) do not know this so it is treated like any other D2 game (or D1 for that matter) and include those stats in our season totals (the official UW stats will be correct). Officially Dalton is 13-25 from the field, but if you include Bristol he is 13-28.
BackHarlowRoad
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NowherePoke said:
Good to know. Thanks, NP.
BeaverPoke
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Yeah is that why espn says Josh is getting like 23 a game but Root and others say he is getting 25?
joshvanklomp
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Exactly. ESPN counts the 9 points vs. Bristol.BeaverPoke said:
On the official NCAA stats, it's not included. Josh is currently tied for 5th in country at 24.6 ppg. With that game included, he would be 11th at 23.0 ppg.
LanderPoke
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Could this be the greatest season in Cowboys history for an individual? This season has got to solidify Josh as an all-time great Poke.
He leads statistically in pretty much every major category.
He leads statistically in pretty much every major category.
Cowboy Junky
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Is a medical redshirt possible for Morris? Maybe the injury at the start of camp gave him more trouble then people think.
LanderPoke said:
His numbers now aren't quite as good as Dembo's final stats his senior year. Dembo did that with Leckner (1st rounder) on the floor as well. You'd think that could steal some of your stats, but it could also draw attention from you. That year the Pokes played up-tempo under Dees, instead of the deliberate style under Brandenburg.
Coeur d' Alene
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Yeah he obviously has to finish out but imo he is an all time great for UW. I don't remember dent enough so Adams is the best guard I've ever seen at UW. So glad they're playing him at point.LanderPoke said:
20-5-5 is a ridiculous line if he can finish there
I knew he'd be an all timer when I saw the end of his high school career on TV
seattlecowboy
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Josh is already an all time great in my opinion.
Think Dembo had the best year all around though to this point. We will see how Josh finishes out. Dembo got conference player of the year as Junior but not as a Senior.
Min FG% 3P% FT% RB's APG BPG SPG PPG
36.4 51.2 42.4 76.6 8.3 2.8 0.5 1.5 20.3
33.6 47.7 36.7 82.4 7.2 3.2 0.7 1.6 20.4
34.3 48.2 41.7 80.5 5.0 4.5 0.2 1.2 23.0
Edit: I can't get the columns to match up on here. 1st row is Dembo's JR year . 2nd column Dembos SR. year. 3rd column Adams this year to this point.
Think Dembo had the best year all around though to this point. We will see how Josh finishes out. Dembo got conference player of the year as Junior but not as a Senior.
Min FG% 3P% FT% RB's APG BPG SPG PPG
36.4 51.2 42.4 76.6 8.3 2.8 0.5 1.5 20.3
33.6 47.7 36.7 82.4 7.2 3.2 0.7 1.6 20.4
34.3 48.2 41.7 80.5 5.0 4.5 0.2 1.2 23.0
Edit: I can't get the columns to match up on here. 1st row is Dembo's JR year . 2nd column Dembos SR. year. 3rd column Adams this year to this point.