Idaho Potato Bowl: Three Stars

[Wyokie]

You old heads make me laugh w the Wallwork and Welniak as undrafted comps....

Welniak, unlike Wallwork, ACS, Smith, Allen, etc...actually won a conference championship!!!!

 

[cowboyz]

You old heads make me laugh w the Wallwork and Welniak as undrafted comps....

I think it comes down to the wording of Wyoming never seeing another like him, etc... He's hardly been the best Wyoming QB and I am positive Wyoming will see QBs in the future as good and probably better, while they play for Wyoming. Josh looks to have amazing potential and when he gets drafted that's what he'll be drafted for, his potential, not his accomplishments. So he could probably eventually be the most accomplished pro QB Wyoming has ever had, but he's not accomplished the most while at the university.

 

[Asmodeanreborn]

I think it comes down to the wording of Wyoming never seeing another like him, etc... He's hardly been the best Wyoming QB and I am positive Wyoming will see QBs in the future as good and probably better, while they play for Wyoming. Josh looks to have amazing potential and when he gets drafted that's what he'll be drafted for, his potential, not his accomplishments. So he could probably eventually be the most accomplished pro QB Wyoming has ever had, but he's not accomplished the most while at the university.

Yeah, exactly. Brett Smith had amazing stats compared to Allen, but he didn't have nearly the same pro potential. If we somehow end up with another QB who can mimic Smith (but in our current scheme), while also having a defense this good, we could have an amazing team.

 

[pokefanchaz7]

That being said he was not the most accomplished qb at wyoming. Truthfully he was not even second team all conference this year. His numbers last year were great but when you only have two years to your credit you need more from that second year. Josh wasn't fully to blame, I recognize that and it's a shame we didn't have more weapons for him this year.

 

[Wicks]

"Wyoming hasn’t seen a QB like Allen in their program’s history and there is a good chance they will never see one like him again."

Not to be too critical, but this sounds like something I would expect from SDPoke or one of the other Chicken Littles on this board. Very negative comment.

Oh, and one name- Josh Wallwork...

The point is pretty simple. Wyoming has never had a player who has been touted as a possible overall #1 pick in the NFL Draft and probably will never again just playing the odds.

People throwing out Welniak and Wallwork comparisons have had too much double spiked eggnog.

 

[LanderPoke]

You old heads make me laugh w the Wallwork and Welniak as undrafted comps....

Fact is, both of those guys had better records and better numbers than Allen.

Better numbers, yes, but I think JA's conference winning % is the best ever for a Pokes QB. (This I have not checked on). Can't speak for Welniak, but Wallwork was an excellent QB. I agree

 

[NowherePoke]

You old heads make me laugh w the Wallwork and Welniak as undrafted comps....

Fact is, both of those guys had better records and better numbers than Allen.

Better numbers, yes, but I think JA's conference winning % is the best ever for a Pokes QB. (This I have not checked on). Can't speak for Welniak, but Wallwork was an excellent QB. I agree

Not true on the conference win in percentage, but it is the highest in 30 years.

Allen is an all-time great, as are Wallwork and Welniak.

 

[SDPokeFan]

"Wyoming hasn’t seen a QB like Allen in their program’s history and there is a good chance they will never see one like him again."

Not to be too critical, but this sounds like something I would expect from SDPoke or one of the other Chicken Littles on this board. Very negative comment.

Oh, and one name- Josh Wallwork...

And Colby Kirkegaard.

 

[Wyovanian]

You old heads make me laugh w the Wallwork and Welniak as undrafted comps....

Fact is, both of those guys had better records and better numbers than Allen.

Better numbers, yes, but I think JA's conference winning % is the best ever for a Pokes QB. (This I have not checked on). Can't speak for Welniak, but Wallwork was an excellent QB. I agree

Welniak went undefeated against WAC teams for two seasons.

 

[Wyovanian]

"Wyoming hasn’t seen a QB like Allen in their program’s history and there is a good chance they will never see one like him again."

Not to be too critical, but this sounds like something I would expect from SDPoke or one of the other Chicken Littles on this board. Very negative comment.

Oh, and one name- Josh Wallwork...

The point is pretty simple. Wyoming has never had a player who has been touted as a possible overall #1 pick in the NFL Draft and probably will never again just playing the odds.

People throwing out Welniak and Wallwork comparisons have had too much double spiked eggnog.

Meh, people said the same things about both of them back then. But, back then, there were no interwebs to publish things simply spoken in conversation ...

 

[DVDA]

"Wyoming hasn’t seen a QB like Allen in their program’s history and there is a good chance they will never see one like him again."

Not to be too critical, but this sounds like something I would expect from SDPoke or one of the other Chicken Littles on this board. Very negative comment.

Oh, and one name- Josh Wallwork...

The point is pretty simple. Wyoming has never had a player who has been touted as a possible overall #1 pick in the NFL Draft and probably will never again just playing the odds.

People throwing out Welniak and Wallwork comparisons have had too much double spiked eggnog.

This is how I read it. It's pretty clear to me the author was speaking of Allen's incredible physical gifts and potential and not of Allen's accomplishments at the college level. Some guys are great at the college level like Brett Smith with no NFL future and then there are guys like Josh Allen who have as a bright an NFL future as anyone ever has. It's highly unlikely UW ever gets another quarterback with Allen's size, mobility, and arm. That doesn't mean UW can't get another great college quarterback, but it is pretty unlikely they get on who could be the number one overall pick after putting up incredibly mediocre numbers in a weak conference.

 

[wyoair]

I'm incredibly grateful for having watched Allen and seeing all of his physical tools and other intangibles. That being said, if we don't have another Allen type but are a consistent 9+ win football team, competing for the conference title and occasional New Years Bowl, I'll take that over a mediocre season and a top 10 pick. If Chambers, Van der Waal or others are great college QBs and not NFL prospects (meaning highly successful at UW), well I can live with that.

 

[wyokoke]

"Wyoming hasn’t seen a QB like Allen in their program’s history and there is a good chance they will never see one like him again."

Not to be too critical, but this sounds like something I would expect from SDPoke or one of the other Chicken Littles on this board. Very negative comment.

Oh, and one name- Josh Wallwork...

The point is pretty simple. Wyoming has never had a player who has been touted as a possible overall #1 pick in the NFL Draft and probably will never again just playing the odds.

People throwing out Welniak and Wallwork comparisons have had too much double spiked eggnog.

Meh, people said the same things about both of them back then. But, back then, there were no interwebs to publish things simply spoken in conversation ...

People around Laramie may have said that, but the fact is they both went undrafted.