I want the NDSU AD.

[BeaverPoke]

I know many people have already said this same thing, but I just saw some things that make me like what NDSU has done even more.

There is 3 sports I care about in college athletics...football, basketball, baseball. I know a lot of people on here don't care about college baseball or baseball in general, but that's not the point.

The point is...NDSU football dominates...3 FCS titles in a row, 7-3 against FBS teams since Bohl...blah blah blah, we all know what NDSU football has done since we have their coach.

But here is what gets me interested in the NDSU AD, not just their football program.

Basketball...They almost made the Sweet 16 this season. They won their conference tourney and made the Sweet 16.
We just played against them in the CBI a couple seasons ago, and beat them, then fast forward 2 years, they are almost a Sweet 16 team, and we are still in the CBI, but losing the first game.

Now the other sport I care about...baseball.

NDSU just made the post-season.
If you don't know how the college baseball postseason works, it is similar to hoops, but not exactly the same.
There are 64 teams, and many come from winning your conference. The auto-bid.
NDSU just made the college baseball playoffs for the first time since 1956, they won their auto-bid.

Wait, it's to cold to have baseball in Wyoming! But...yet North Dakota does it! And competes AND WINS when they do it.

Okay, so maybe NDSU football was only successful because of Bohl. But maybe the AD up there wanted to make sure the coach had everything he could to win. So maybe we shouldn't give the AD too much credit for just one sport.

Well, basketball... Almost in the Sweet 16. Remember when we were in their spot? Marcus Bailey and Josh Davis led us to that spot. NDSU did it without Larry Shyatt or Scott Duncan and Larry Nance or Leonard Washington.

Ok, success in 2 sports is nice, but it could be a coincidence. Let's not give the AD too much credit yet.

Then...baseball. This is the one that gets me.
I constantly hear that Wyo is too cold for baseball in March through May, yet the Big10 plays baseball and half those teams are basically in Canada. We can't do it because we would have to go to tournaments in the south to start the season and it's just unrealistic. Which is TOTAL BS because EVERY team goes to tourneys in the south to start the season every year!
But back to NDSU. They won their tourney. That's another conference championship for the Bison this school year.
They made a tourney they haven't made it to in almost 60 seasons.

At this point, they have 3 conference titles in the 3 sports I care about, THIS YEAR.
Made the playoffs in all 3 and have been successful in those playoffs (except for baseball as it hasn't started yet).

Meanwhile, we have an AD that wants to be "almost never last", and in the "top half" of our conference.

Stupid BOTs firing Sternberg who was going to change things here.

I want the NDSU AD in Laramie.

 

[joshvanklomp]

NDSU just made the college baseball playoffs for the first time since 1956

This stat is skewed for the simple fact that NDSU has only been Division I for about a decade. They made the Division II playoffs multiple times since then.

 

[mwc fan]

I love baseball too. Unfortunately we don't have an indoor facility for baseball. I believe NDSU plays baseball indoors in their dome. That makes a big difference. I do agree with the rest of your post though BeaverPoke.

 

[BeaverPoke]

NDSU just made the college baseball playoffs for the first time since 1956

This stat is skewed for the simple fact that NDSU has only been Division I for about a decade. They made the Division II playoffs multiple times since then.

Wow, even more reason to have that AD!

Wyo hasn't won a MWC title in ANY sport since 2002.

 

[joshvanklomp]

Wyo hasn't won a MWC title in ANY sport since 2002.

That I didn't know.

Now I'm getting to realize why so many are so down on the program.

 

[Hayduke]

No, no, no.

Not Gene Taylor. We can do better. Bohl was a great hire....but

They won a pretty weak basketball conference, got hot against Oklahoma, then got their asses handed to them by SDSU in the second round.

Baseball? Jeez, if you think that basketball conference was weak, the baseball conference is downright pathetic. Their record wasn't that good..they just won another weak conference. NDSU does not play in their dome. They play at Newman Field, which is a pretty good venue, but it is outdoors. Several games get cancelled every year.

 

[BeaverPoke]

Wyo hasn't won a MWC title in ANY sport since 2002.

That I didn't know.

Now I'm getting to realize why so many are so down on the program.

Yeah, and the last couple football coaches were saviors of the programs that didn't pan out.

First was Joe Glenn. With the kinda similar D2/FCS background Bohl has.
The man who could fix Alabama, UCLA, Colorado, and Penn State!
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We did not win a conference title with him, and although he led us to one Wyomings favorite memories in hte Vegas Bowl against UCLA in 2004, that was his only bowl game and had 4 losing seasons and 1 .500 season.

Then was Dave Christensen, the hot-shit OC from Mizzouri that could re-engergize a program
DC took us to a bowl victory in year 1 and man did it look like we were going to be going back to bowl games for a while.
Then we only went to 1 more in the following 4 seasons.

Since the MWC has been a conference, Wyoming has a grand total of 2 conference championships. Both in basketball. 2001 and 2002.

We have been in the Big Dance once, and been to 3 bowl games since the MWC formed.

That is why people are skeptical the Larry Shyatt and Bohl can turn around these shit storms of programs.

 

[ItSucksToBeACSURam]

I couldn't agree more. It chaps my ass that Wyoming can't find the support to have a baseball team anymore. There is absolutely no reason for it. The NDSU AD may not be our answer, but I know damn well that Burman isn't either. He needs to be shown the door yesterday. He has ZERO ambition to turn our athletic department into anything more than a joke. Sad. I will bleed brown and gold til the day I day but it would be really nice to have an AD with that same passion for the school.

 

[Wyokie]

I couldn't agree more. It chaps my ass that Wyoming can't find the support to have a baseball team anymore. There is absolutely no reason for it. The NDSU AD may not be our answer, but I know damn well that Burman isn't either. He needs to be shown the door yesterday. He has ZERO ambition to turn our athletic department into anything more than a joke. Sad. I will bleed brown and gold til the day I day but it would be really nice to have an AD with that same passion for the school.

Sadly there's no way Burman can be fired. Starting to think he was somehow behind Steinberg's firing so he can keep his job.

 

[kansasCowboy]

Baseball I'm not sure about. When we did have baseball we were pretty bad. I think it was our last year of that program that we were any good and finished with a winning record. Plus I think we had to cancel games due to WYO weather, quite a bit. It may be something to look into again, but overall, who knows.

Also, yes, their basketball program made it to the second or third round of the tourney this year, but they also didn't lose their best player to injury either. And that is something that their Ad, just like ours cannot control. ANSI think we all agree that if we never lost Nance we were going to the NCAA or the nit ourselves. And I'm more inclined to Shyatt than ndsus coach. And our Ad is responsible for our coach.
I'm not advocating Burman, but he does have some credit.

 

[Brew_Poke]

I couldn't agree more. It chaps my ass that Wyoming can't find the support to have a baseball team anymore. There is absolutely no reason for it. The NDSU AD may not be our answer, but I know damn well that Burman isn't either. He needs to be shown the door yesterday. He has ZERO ambition to turn our athletic department into anything more than a joke. Sad. I will bleed brown and gold til the day I day but it would be really nice to have an AD with that same passion for the school.

Many Wyoming fans always clamor for 'getting a Wyoming guy in there.' That's what we have in Burman. They got what they wanted.

 

[WyoBrandX]

I don't know what to think of ol' Burman. 7 or 8 years ago, when Glenn was the coach, Wyoming was talking about BCS busting and getting the MWC included in the BCS. 5 years ago, when Christensen was hired, Wyoming was talking about whipping TCU/Utah and BYU on a regular basis. Now, we are talking about being happy with 6th place and the occasional last place finish. What a load of crap! How about we aim a bit higher every year instead of a bit lower.

This seems like a great time for Wyoming Athletics btw. With giving the scholarship athletes more benefits, you would think we would be all over that, looking for money in every nook and crannie, to out compete all of the MWC. Think about it, if you have the best benefits package in the MWC, the remoteness of Laramie and the negatives associated suddenly become quite a bit smaller than the postives. If I were AD, I'd be giving every tree a shakdown and getting the cash out of it to give our atheletes the best benefit package in the MWC.

 

[lakesbison]

You wish you could have Taylor. HayDuke is a ndsu hater we took his girlfriend 40 years ago when he was 19.

NDSU won 9 conference titles this year.
Espn gameday, beat K state& 3 titles
Basketball beats Oklahoma in big dance
Wrestler got 3rd in nation
5 nfl signers
17 Tracksters at ncaa regional
Softball Beat Auburn
Baseball in ncaa's (beat Arizona State last year!)

Capitol Cup top 5 standing.

New basketball arena secured

Don't take our AD.

Our AD should be bringing NDSU to mountain west!

 

[Aaron]

NDSU is not a geographical fit for the MWC. You will never be invited so drop it already.

 

[fromolwyoming]

NDSU is not a geographical fit for the MWC. You will never be invited so drop it already.

They're not even financially on the same scale, and that says a lot. Maybe the MAC for them some day, but the MWC, it would be like Hawaii to the East, except without the recruiting and extra game.

 

[joshvanklomp]

NDSU is not a geographical fit for the MWC. You will never be invited so drop it already.

They're not even financially on the same scale, and that says a lot. Maybe the MAC for them some day, but the MWC, it would be like Hawaii to the East, except without the recruiting and extra game.

NDSU isn't a geographical fit for the MAC, either.

 

[fromolwyoming]

NDSU is not a geographical fit for the MWC. You will never be invited so drop it already.

They're not even financially on the same scale, and that says a lot. Maybe the MAC for them some day, but the MWC, it would be like Hawaii to the East, except without the recruiting and extra game.

NDSU isn't a geographical fit for the MAC, either.

Closer to the MAC than the MWC though.

 

[joshvanklomp]

Closer to the MAC than the MWC though.

Not by much. And in terms of the profile of the town and the culture, Fargo is a much better fit with the likes of Laramie, Fort Collins, Boise than it is with the towns in the MAC.

 

[Hayduke]

NDSU is not a geographical fit for the MWC. You will never be invited so drop it already.

They're not even financially on the same scale, and that says a lot. Maybe the MAC for them some day, but the MWC, it would be like Hawaii to the East, except without the recruiting and extra game.

They would have to pony up a lot of money to be in the MWC or the MAC for that matter. They still have a D-II mindset in many ways in Fargo (And Grand Forks) in terms of willingness to cough up the $$$ to compete at a higher level. Yet, in Fargo, many believe that they are at the level of the Mountain West Conference already. It still hasn't sunk in to many of their fans that they have lost three coaches, two basketball and one football, to the MWC and MAC over both budgetary reasons and level of competition.

 

[ragtimejoe1]

They would have to pony up a lot of money to be in the MWC or the MAC for that matter. They still have a D-II mindset in many ways in Fargo (And Grand Forks) in terms of willingness to cough up the $$$ to compete at a higher level. Yet, in Fargo, many believe that they are at the level of the Mountain West Conference already. It still hasn't sunk in to many of their fans that they have lost three coaches, two basketball and one football, to the MWC and MAC over both budgetary reasons and level of competition.

Not defending NDSU here, and I largely agree with you, however, I wonder how many times these same things were said of BSU before they made the jump(s)?

Again, not at all saying NDSU is a BSU in waiting. I'm just saying you never know. Nonetheless, many more who made the jump struggle than progress like BSU.