I want nothing more than Coach Christensen to turn Wyoming into a National Power. But I believe he will fail, and this is why. He has an inferiority complex that I don't think he can overcome. He treats Wyoming like a mid-major and I get the sense that he feels Wyoming will always be a mid-major and its simply impossible to compete with the "big boys". I actually believe this is partially why ACS quit. I believe we go into 3 or 4 games a year with no intent of playing to win. TCU this past year for example. He has managed to turn Joe Glenn's excellent defense into one of the worst in the nation in 2 years. I predicted that would happen the day we hired him. Christensen broke the golden rule, don't fix it if it isn't broken, when he switched from the 3-4 back to the 4-3. FAIL. The problem is that our offense hasn't gotten better to counter it. Atleast nothing to speak of. I figured we'd have to start winning 42-40 instead of 17-10. But our offense still stinks. I think Joe Glenn was the perfect fit for Wyoming and I miss him. Its too damn bad he couldn't recruit 1 good WR to save his ass. His defenses were excellent until the inept offense led the defense to wear out late in seasons which led to his downfall. We need a guy to come in with the intent to turn Wyoming into a National Power. Just like Urban started at Utah, and Patterson is doing at TCU. Remember UTAH has a completely pathetic tradition Pre Urban Meyer.
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I predict Dave Christensen will fail
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The Virginian
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theman said:
The last thing Dave Christensen has is an inferiority complex. If anything, some people think he arrogant. He has a highly developed sense of self worth. No, I don't see that as his problem. What will bring him down, if it does, is that he couldn't get the kind of players he needs for his system. He's one tough hombre and he coaches with an old school philosophy. He demands a lot from his players and some of them can't cut it, they leave. I think it was more that ACS wimped out more than anything.
Another thing, this job is critical for him. It's his one chance to prove he can take a down team and resurrect them. It's the one thing that will get him that million dollar job down the road. So, if he can get the players he needs to compete in the Mountain West, I believe he'll be successful. And then he'll be gone. Ego and all.
The Virginian said:
I agree with you Jeff. DC needs more than 2 years to show he can get the Pokes back into contention for the top of the conference. IMO his recruiting classes have been good, but he needs to build up both the OL & DL. If we aren't competitive and bowl worthy by next year, then I will start to worry.
ACS couldn't quit crying long enough to win the respect of his teammates, that's why he's no longer a Cowboy. And I'm sure a couple of other people will chime in here, but DC is definitely an arrogant dude (as The Virginian pointed out). Next year, and probably year 4 are where we're going to see what DC can do with this team. I expect 2011 to be a bumpy ride breaking in a freshman QB, 2012 we should see results whether DC is going to make it at Wyoming or not.
theman said:
Nah. With more spread teams like Nevada coming in I wish we would go to the 4-2-5 that TCU and BSU uses. I think the move back to 4-3 will pay dividends in the long run. Either way I think 4 down lineman is where the game seems to be moving again.
Does anyone else in the MWC run a 3 down lineman scheme anymore?
The Virginian said:
Frankly, DC is a fucking asshole. I have never seen a coach at Wyoming blatantly lie as much as he has. I'm glad Eric Schmoldt actually called him out. That said, if he wins, he can lie all day long and I'd be happy with him.
I always get a kick out of the "tough nosed" coaches. They are only "tough" because they are in a position of power. Something tells me if DC came across any of the players that have left for being "wimps" one late night on the street, he wouldn't have shit to say to them...and if he did, 99% of the time he would end up face down in a puddle of his own blood.
The bottom line is that DC better start winning. He doesn't get along with the media...he doesn't get along with his players...he doesn't get along with the administration. If he keeps losing, things are going to get very, very ugly.
laxwyo
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I don't care if he's a dick or a wimp. I don't care if half the team takes their huge heads and go home and cry on their huge pillows every night. I don't care about whether or not he is cheating on his wife or not. I care about wins and following the rules. I think we might have had a decent season this year, but ACS left and now, it will be pretty rocky. We've had some bad luck on the OL with injuries but his attitude has run off a few dudes. Instead of redshirting and developing a QB, we are throwing another into the burner. I thought the OL would be better off than it is. Some have quit and some are just done. I don't really think our OL is going to be any better than they were last year. Essentially it looks like we are where we were when DC took over except a poorer defense.
calpoke25
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Joe Glenn's defenses were overrated. Yeah we had some nice rankings, but could we ever stop a good team when we needed to? No. Switching what scheme we run isn't the cause of our problems. It doesn't matter if its 3-4 or 4-3, if you don't have the big guys up front (ESPECIALLY in a 3-4) you will have trouble stopping anyone.
We were not a good team with Joe Glenn and we are not a good team with CDC. I agree with CalPoke, Glenns defense was overrated, how many times did we get blown out under Glenn? However I think Dave can recruit and will eventually get us the players we need to compete. 2-3 years from now is when I see us actually being competitive. It's just a matter of if the athletic department will give him that much time to build a program.
Players quitting happens with every program. It's just magnified here because we cannot afford to lose anyone. We simply don't have the talent depth to replace a player leaving right now. I think we will eventually get there and then so much blame won't be put on CDC everytime a player quits.
Players quitting happens with every program. It's just magnified here because we cannot afford to lose anyone. We simply don't have the talent depth to replace a player leaving right now. I think we will eventually get there and then so much blame won't be put on CDC everytime a player quits.
Joe Glenn's defenses were way overrated. We could not stop any team that passed the ball and they pissed down their legs everytime we played BYU. DC builds his 4-3 with speed in mind and he puts safety type players in LB spots so they can help in pass coverage. It is almost like running a 4-2 (Muhammad was more of a safety then a LB). I think the scheme is solid, its just that the play calling is piss poor(that goes for the offense as well).
The best thing DC could do this year is fix his play calling on both sides of the ball and at least he fixed that by hiring OC Brandon. We can only hope that Marty gets it turned around in his play calling ability and actually blitzes.
DC might not be a good coach but I think it is too early to tell. Losing ACS shouldn't be an execuse for failure this year and I expect/hope for a bowl game and anything less in year three is inexcusable. I am tired of having wyoming be in last place for our two money making sports.
At least the cowgirls and coach Joe L. should finally win a couple MWC championships with BYU, Utah, and TCU leaving.
The best thing DC could do this year is fix his play calling on both sides of the ball and at least he fixed that by hiring OC Brandon. We can only hope that Marty gets it turned around in his play calling ability and actually blitzes.
DC might not be a good coach but I think it is too early to tell. Losing ACS shouldn't be an execuse for failure this year and I expect/hope for a bowl game and anything less in year three is inexcusable. I am tired of having wyoming be in last place for our two money making sports.
At least the cowgirls and coach Joe L. should finally win a couple MWC championships with BYU, Utah, and TCU leaving.
Sorry for the misunderstanding when I said Christensen has an inferiority complex. I think Christensen is very confident in himself, no problems there. What I meant was I think he looks at the University of Wyoming as a mid-major with no chance of playing with the big boys. So he himself doesn't have an inferiority complex about himself, he has an inferiority complex about the University of Wyoming.
Now that we have that straight. Joe Glenn's defenses were in no way shape or form overrated. If anything, they were underrated and this is why. Joe Glenn's offenses were mostly terrible, giving the defense no time to catch their breath. The defense got tired and frustrated with always carrying the load with no help from the offense. The offense could barely score. Basically the only time the defense didn't play well was when they were fed up with getting no help or they were physically beat the hell up from being on the field so long when the offense goes 3 and out every series. With just a mediocre offense, Glenn's defenses were super.
Now that we have that straight. Joe Glenn's defenses were in no way shape or form overrated. If anything, they were underrated and this is why. Joe Glenn's offenses were mostly terrible, giving the defense no time to catch their breath. The defense got tired and frustrated with always carrying the load with no help from the offense. The offense could barely score. Basically the only time the defense didn't play well was when they were fed up with getting no help or they were physically beat the hell up from being on the field so long when the offense goes 3 and out every series. With just a mediocre offense, Glenn's defenses were super.
I think we all agree that Joe Glenn's defenses carried the team and became wore down from seeing the field so much. However, any good defense shouldn't have multiple games a year were they give up 35 points plus(even if they were tired and on the field the entire game). Glenn's defenses were good run stopping teams and there is no doubt about that. They also were quite horrible against heavy pass attacks and teams that ran more complicated spread option formations (TCU, Utah, & BYU).
My point is that if your team allows forty + points in game every year, and allows mutliple 35 point games a year then they realy aren't an elite defense (even if some of those points were caused by Sween turnovers).
I'll go out on a limb here and say that our defense finishes in the top four in the conference for overall defense this year.
My point is that if your team allows forty + points in game every year, and allows mutliple 35 point games a year then they realy aren't an elite defense (even if some of those points were caused by Sween turnovers).
I'll go out on a limb here and say that our defense finishes in the top four in the conference for overall defense this year.
Fullback41
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Glenn's defenses (plural) were NOT super, but the defense Wendling's senior year probably WAS super, minus 1 game (55pts to BYU). Other than that, they were good at times but screwed by the offense. Glenn is gone, get over it, he is a great guy but we were not progressing.
Bryoming
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I knew some players on the team when Tiller was the coach, and they said the same things about Tiller that we are hearing about HCDC. You don't have to be a "player's coach" to win, but the players do have to know that you demand their respect and compliance. HCDC can be as big a prick as he wants to be as long as he gets it done on the field. The last thing I want is to see a situation like we had years ago when Tiller got run out of town and we had shitty football for the next 12 years.TheRealUW said:
The Virginian
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Vince Lombardi was an A-hole. Bear Bryant was an A-hole. Nick Saben is an A-hole. What do they have in common? Winning!
And they have or had Tiger's blood :lol:
And they have or had Tiger's blood :lol:
