How Smith Decided to Enter Draft

[BeaverPoke]

I bet Smith ends up coming back to Wyo as a grad assistant or something in the next few years.

If you were Coach Bohl, would you bring back a guy to coach who blew you off to enter the draft? And, imo, a questionable prospect in that draft? Just askin'.

If I was Coach Bohl, I would have been around college football long enough to know not to take things personal especially when it comes to dealing with kids wanting to play in the NFL, and I would also realize that Brett Smith being back at Wyo could only help his QBs, potential QB recruits (like someone named Cade) and get fans excited that Brett is back at Wyo.

You can't make decisions based off of "you never gave me a chance and you hurt my feelings" when you are a D1 coach, especially at a place like Wyo where resources are already slim to none. You make the best decision you can to win.

Cade goes to Utah I'd put money on it, Anyway the rest I agree with.

I would put money on it too.
DC has the relationship with the family, and Utah is a Pac12 school, Cade would get to play Oregon State and Oregon every single season to show them why the messed up.

But, having Brett here at Wyo couldn't hurt our chances for Cade. It might not improve them all that much, but hey can't hurt.

 

[Larawie]

I bet Smith ends up coming back to Wyo as a grad assistant or something in the next few years.

If you were Coach Bohl, would you bring back a guy to coach who blew you off to enter the draft? And, imo, a questionable prospect in that draft? Just askin'.

If I was Coach Bohl, I would have been around college football long enough to know not to take things personal especially when it comes to dealing with kids wanting to play in the NFL, and I would also realize that Brett Smith being back at Wyo could only help his QBs, potential QB recruits (like someone named Cade) and get fans excited that Brett is back at Wyo.

You can't make decisions based off of "you never gave me a chance and you hurt my feelings" when you are a D1 coach, especially at a place like Wyo where resources are already slim to none. You make the best decision you can to win.

1) I did not say the HC took it personally. I just said the kid had the opportunity to play for a better HC and blew off the chance. Would another year have helped him? A year with a staff more familiar with the pro game? Without a doubt.

2) Do I think someone was blowin' smoke up Smith's a**? Without a doubt.

3) Does anyone really think bringin' the kid back would help a) the current QB's, or b) possible recruits? The system and personnel are totally different. And fame is fleetin'. Therefore, I doubt it.

4) Am I the only poster who doesn't think Smith is God? Without a doubt.

("Slim to none" resources? Oh puh...leeeze.)

Oh so you don't think Wyo is slim on resources? Are you new to Wyo athletics?
Teams that have resources to compete, win. The Oregons, the Alabamas, the USCs, the Floridas. Wyo doesn't have jack shit for resources, hence the reason we just hired an FCS coach.
Look at Washington, they just hired Peterson from Boise. Look at USC, they just hired Sarkisian from Washington.
Alabama hired Nick Saban from the NFL. LSU hired Les Miles from Okie State.
Those are teams with resources.

We don't have that.
Money=resources in college football.
Go on and on about how we have a weight room that is really nice and think that makes a difference, when every BCS team has the same, and half the non-AQ teams do as well.

Talk about how we sell out our tiny stadium only when a big name team brings 5-8K fans to do it for us.
Talk about how we have had 3 bowl seasons in the last decade.

Please tell me more about how we have resources to win at Wyoming.

I think, after tourin' the campus, athletic facilities and city a few months ago, WY looks pretty good. The student population is only around 10,000. The town only has around 30,000 residents and is relatively remote compared to the other schools you mentioned. I think I'm bein' more than realistic with comparisons.

However, I believe your comment about hirin' an FCS coach rather than someone else was in poor taste. Would you rather have hired another has-been or transient-type FBS position coach or co-ordinator, or would you rather have the BEST FCS coach? Just askin'.

These websites are all about opinions. Those are mine. Maybe I'm just too familiar with watchin' and supportin' D-II most of my life. Still I think the future at WY is bright, and much brighter than it's been in quite awhile. And no, I'm not from ND or an NDSU fan. I'm just an ol' guy, retired, who loves college football and enjoys followin' coaches when they move on and watchin' how they impact programs.

 

[BJC]

I think most folks agree this hire looks good. But you've got to understand why people are jaded and not anointing a coach until we see results. *recent history

And the previous post compared WYO to elite BCS schools which we are not. There is always a bigger fish, budget, etc.
:twocents:

 

[BeaverPoke]

I wanted Wyo to hire Tedford who has proven he can win at a non-football school with an administration that doesn't give two shits about football compared to conference foes.

Here is the perfect example of why Wyo fans expect less and settle for crap, even without realizing it.
For you Wyo fans that cheer for a BCS team as well, why is it we are happy with Bohl being hired here at Wyo, but odds are you wouldn't be too happy if your BCS team hired him from the FCS?

This is not at all a bash on Bohl, so don't take it that way.
I think he may end up being a decent coach, but for now it is the same old story as before. Glenn was supposed to fix the program. He didn't. Christensen was supposed to fix the program. He didn't.
Bohl seems like he is saying and doing all the right things, just like Glenn did.

I don't want to risk it with a coach who hasn't been a head coach at this level (Yes LakeBison I know that Bohl and NDSU beat multiple REAL d1 teams the last few seasons). I want someone who has done it before and can do it again.
It would be a great story if Bohl works out and he leads Wyo to the promised land (whatever that is), but I would rather just have a coach that wins. I don't care how, I just want to win.

 

[BJC]

I wonder if Tedford was legit interested......would have been a great hire.

 

[Wyo2dal]

I bet Smith ends up coming back to Wyo as a grad assistant or something in the next few years.

If you were Coach Bohl, would you bring back a guy to coach who blew you off to enter the draft? And, imo, a questionable prospect in that draft? Just askin'.

If I was Coach Bohl, I would have been around college football long enough to know not to take things personal especially when it comes to dealing with kids wanting to play in the NFL, and I would also realize that Brett Smith being back at Wyo could only help his QBs, potential QB recruits (like someone named Cade) and get fans excited that Brett is back at Wyo.

You can't make decisions based off of "you never gave me a chance and you hurt my feelings" when you are a D1 coach, especially at a place like Wyo where resources are already slim to none. You make the best decision you can to win.

1) I did not say the HC took it personally. I just said the kid had the opportunity to play for a better HC and blew off the chance. Would another year have helped him? A year with a staff more familiar with the pro game? Without a doubt.

2) Do I think someone was blowin' smoke up Smith's a**? Without a doubt.

3) Does anyone really think bringin' the kid back would help a) the current QB's, or b) possible recruits? The system and personnel are totally different. And fame is fleetin'. Therefore, I doubt it.

4) Am I the only poster who doesn't think Smith is God? Without a doubt.

("Slim to none" resources? Oh puh...leeeze.)

Oh so you don't think Wyo is slim on resources? Are you new to Wyo athletics?
Teams that have resources to compete, win. The Oregons, the Alabamas, the USCs, the Floridas. Wyo doesn't have jack shit for resources, hence the reason we just hired an FCS coach.
Look at Washington, they just hired Peterson from Boise. Look at USC, they just hired Sarkisian from Washington.
Alabama hired Nick Saban from the NFL. LSU hired Les Miles from Okie State.
Those are teams with resources.

We don't have that.
Money=resources in college football.
Go on and on about how we have a weight room that is really nice and think that makes a difference, when every BCS team has the same, and half the non-AQ teams do as well.

Talk about how we sell out our tiny stadium only when a big name team brings 5-8K fans to do it for us.
Talk about how we have had 3 bowl seasons in the last decade.

Please tell me more about how we have resources to win at Wyoming.

I think, after tourin' the campus, athletic facilities and city a few months ago, WY looks pretty good. The student population is only around 10,000. The town only has around 30,000 residents and is relatively remote compared to the other schools you mentioned. I think I'm bein' more than realistic with comparisons.

However, I believe your comment about hirin' an FCS coach rather than someone else was in poor taste. Would you rather have hired another has-been or transient-type FBS position coach or co-ordinator, or would you rather have the BEST FCS coach? Just askin'.

These websites are all about opinions. Those are mine. Maybe I'm just too familiar with watchin' and supportin' D-II most of my life. Still I think the future at WY is bright, and much brighter than it's been in quite awhile. And no, I'm not from ND or an NDSU fan. I'm just an ol' guy, retired, who loves college football and enjoys followin' coaches when they move on and watchin' how they impact programs.

I'm fine with Bohl and not going to say I'm not, I'm in agreement with Beav on this one, I wanted a proven head coach who is already winning at the FBS level. Not a OC or DC with pipe dreams and empty promises. I'll give Bohl the benefit of the doubt and see where it goes but if I were in a position of power and my AD made this hire over like Tedford or someone who has won at the FBS level as a head coach I would be disappointed.

We'll see how it all works out, I was one of them cheering for Christensen first 3 years looked great then we all came to the realization he never made halftime adjustments and our d was as soft as it gets. Those imo were both on him and he didn't seem to care.

Bohl seems to care and seems to get it and actually likes Wyoming so fingers crossed and hopes held high!

 

[BJC]

:thumb:

 

[BeaverPoke]

I wonder if Tedford was legit interested......would have been a great hire.

I think his interest may have hinged on Brett and Thompsons interest to stay, but that is just a wild guess. There is no real evidence behind it, so don't take it as gospel.

I think Bohl may be a great hire, I really do, he just wasn't my number 1.
Bohl was my number 2, definitely ahead of Gilmore the Oakland Raiders WR coach who had interest in leading his alma matter.

I believe Bohl may have all the answers. What I just want to point out is that I would rather have someone who we KNEW had the answers instead of believe he did.

Don't get me wrong, once Montana comes to town I will be 100% behind Bohl and his decisions until they prove they aren't working.

From what I have heard from players, and what we have seen in terms of weight room results, it seems like it is winning.
But one thing I like to keep in mind is that winning in the offseason is not winning on the field.

The NY Jets win the offseason every year while the Giants don't get talked about, yet Eli Manning has lead them to 2 SuperBowl wins.

Let's win on the field, not the offseason!

 

[BackHarlowRoad]

Here's the way I see it. Everyone who is not a slacker for life wants to succeed in their careers and continue to better their workplace situation, right?

So if a coach manages to get a Head Coaching position at the FBS level and proves to be a winner, the next step is to take a job at a more prolific, higher paying job right? Why would an experienced, proven winner at the FBS level choose Wyoming as his next step?

 

[WestWYOPoke]

Here's the way I see it. Everyone who is not a slacker for life wants to succeed in their careers and continue to better their workplace situation, right?

So if a coach manages to get a Head Coaching position at the FBS level and proves to be a winner, the next step is to take a job at a more prolific, higher paying job right? Why would an experienced, proven winner at the FBS level choose Wyoming as his next step?

I can only think of 2 reasons: they are an alumni/have a VERY strong tie to UW, OR we throw a crap load of money at them, I'm talking like SEC money.

 

[kdwrightuwyo]

Here's the way I see it. Everyone who is not a slacker for life wants to succeed in their careers and continue to better their workplace situation, right?

So if a coach manages to get a Head Coaching position at the FBS level and proves to be a winner, the next step is to take a job at a more prolific, higher paying job right? Why would an experienced, proven winner at the FBS level choose Wyoming as his next step?

I can only think of 2 reasons: they are an alumni/have a VERY strong tie to UW, OR we throw a crap load of money at them, I'm talking like SEC money.

Neither of which would happen for Wyo...

 

[BeaverPoke]

Here's the way I see it. Everyone who is not a slacker for life wants to succeed in their careers and continue to better their workplace situation, right?

So if a coach manages to get a Head Coaching position at the FBS level and proves to be a winner, the next step is to take a job at a more prolific, higher paying job right? Why would an experienced, proven winner at the FBS level choose Wyoming as his next step?

Are you referencing Tedford?

If so, I could think of a couple reasons Tedford might have wanted to come here...

1. Brett Smith and Thompson stay.
2. Hire someone like Gilmore from the Raiders to come be the OC at his alma-matter.
3. Since he got fired from Cal and was out of football for a year he wanted to get another chance.
4. Make Gilmore the coach in waiting for 2-3 years.
5. After he uses Smith and Thompson to get a couple of bowl wins in a few seasons, he goes back to a BCS conference.

So basically it would have been a quick stay, knowing he had some QBs to work with.

Obviously, being the OC for an NFL team is a better deal than being the head coach for Wyoming, so for Tedford, I would say it worked out alright.

 

[hithere]

I'm just an ol' guy, retired, who loves college football and enjoys followin' coaches when they move on and watchin' how they impact programs.

And evidently someone who doesn't enjoy typing with a G.

Are you also whittlin', wearin' overalls and chewin' on some straw? Dadgum.

 

[Brew_Poke]

I wanted Wyo to hire Tedford who has proven he can win at a non-football school with an administration that doesn't give two shits about football compared to conference foes.

Here is the perfect example of why Wyo fans expect less and settle for crap, even without realizing it.
For you Wyo fans that cheer for a BCS team as well, why is it we are happy with Bohl being hired here at Wyo, but odds are you wouldn't be too happy if your BCS team hired him from the FCS?

This is not at all a bash on Bohl, so don't take it that way.
I think he may end up being a decent coach, but for now it is the same old story as before. Glenn was supposed to fix the program. He didn't. Christensen was supposed to fix the program. He didn't.
Bohl seems like he is saying and doing all the right things, just like Glenn did.

I don't want to risk it with a coach who hasn't been a head coach at this level (Yes LakeBison I know that Bohl and NDSU beat multiple REAL d1 teams the last few seasons). I want someone who has done it before and can do it again.
It would be a great story if Bohl works out and he leads Wyo to the promised land (whatever that is), but I would rather just have a coach that wins. I don't care how, I just want to win.

Having 'fans' who cheer for a P5 team first and Wyo second is why Wyo fans expect less and settle for crap. The BCS accomplished what it was set up for about 15 years ago, and that was BRANDING.

 

[Brew_Poke]

Here's the way I see it. Everyone who is not a slacker for life wants to succeed in their careers and continue to better their workplace situation, right?

So if a coach manages to get a Head Coaching position at the FBS level and proves to be a winner, the next step is to take a job at a more prolific, higher paying job right? Why would an experienced, proven winner at the FBS level choose Wyoming as his next step?

Because he was coaching in the MAC or Sunbelt?

 

[Larawie]

I'm just an ol' guy, retired, who loves college football and enjoys followin' coaches when they move on and watchin' how they impact programs.

And evidently someone who doesn't enjoy typing with a G.

Are you also whittlin', wearin' overalls and chewin' on some straw? Dadgum.

You is correct, by golly. I sees ya drops the "g's" too.

 

[hithere]

You is correct, by golly. I sees ya drops the "g's" too.

You're alright, Larawie.

I'm confident that if we met in real life you'd lift me up in the air with one arm when we shook hands.

 

[johnywyo]

This thread is about as useless as pockets in my underwear, which lame ass armchair bs'rs love to wear.
Fred Akers thought Wyoming could be something, and he proved it....Bohl thinks the same, I'm in.
Bohl is as good of a coach there is, and sorry you chumps don't agree. Brett Smith is long gone, Thompson started one game. If you like DC head over to the beehive state. I'm a Cowboy come hell or high water. When we line up and knock someones dick in the dirt, and make them sorry for ever coming into the WAR will be the start of great things to come. Paying the price for tough nosed hard ass football, is honestly something that most of you never tasted, like a mouth full of blood. On that day Wyoming will have arisen from the dusty plains to proudly wear the brown and gold, and the steamboat emblem will be emblazoned square in the heart of Wyoming fans once again. Let the season begin, the sooner the better. Line up these MWC foes, and lets see what they got. We have the right Coach, and I support him fully.

 

[BJC]

Most of you never tasted...... :shock:

 

[Wyovanian]

Here's the way I see it. Everyone who is not a slacker for life wants to succeed in their careers and continue to better their workplace situation, right?

So if a coach manages to get a Head Coaching position at the FBS level and proves to be a winner, the next step is to take a job at a more prolific, higher paying job right? Why would an experienced, proven winner at the FBS level choose Wyoming as his next step?

I'm going to come at this from what most would see as an irrational POV- for the mere challenge.

If you have all the money you need, if you'v proven you can achieve at very high levels, and, especially, if you've been a bit short-changed on respect and have just a bit of chip on your shoulder- why not roll the dice with a program like ours?

As George Mallory said- "Because it's there." I didn't need to read his biography to grok what he meant. I just needed to see the mountain.